Coltrain and Clucks "An old story, but a good one"

crawfish

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Well, I thought I'd pass this one on.

I had been going back and forth to Danville, VA. to a place called Clucks. I had pretty much had the run of the joint for almost a month. I had given the eight to "Bigun", the six to "Red", and quite a few other matchups. Man, this place was hoppin'. More often than not, there would be a few ladies dancing to a live band on the bar. Four big, or was it six? Anyway, 4 1/2 X 9, and the rest (6) bartables. Most everyone would bet it up, too.

So, Mike Coltrain was about seventeen. He was coming into his own, so to speak. The exact shadow of Johnny. Stance, stroke, etc. It was like watching a young Johnny, except not quite as steady. That kid had a gift from the pool gods. Anyway, he calls me up and tells me he needs to make some cash. He was playing so good, I couldn't wait to sneak him into Clucks. Sneak being the word, he was only seventeen. I told him to grab an ID and meet me at my place. Off we went.

We get there about eight o'clock. Way before "happening" time. We scope out the place, when Red walks in. "I'll take the five and the last two." "No thanks, nice talking to you." I reply. I figured the longer I waited, the better the game. (If you know me, being patient is not my strong point) Wait a minute, there is the black Monte Carlo. This is it. Bigun is here.

"You beat me with the eight last time. Give up the seven and we'll kick it off at $50 a game!"
"I'm a little buzzed. Been here since 7:00. Ask the bartender. What will you give my little cousin?"
Coltrain. Picture this skinny kid with beads, flipflops, and half grown in gotee.
"He's got the eight. Get it on."
I asked for the seven and eight, but not quite convincing enough. Eight was probably three balls the best of it at least. Hell, Coltrain was giving me the seven and the last three, and I was beating Bigun giving up the eight and winning. Here we went.

I've felt sick before, but I couldn't help showing my disgust after Coltrain was dogging it off worse than me playing Johnny even. We were stuck around $600. Coltrain pulls me to the side and was worried. Bigun was getting bored, and I could feel the inevitable move to quit winner. "I've gotta go. You boys be around later?" We all knows this means "fu#$ you, and I've enjoyed your cash." He walks out. I follow.
"You gonna quit winner on a kid? You come back in, switch to the tight table and you've got the eight."
"From you?"
"From the kid. Yeah, and bet a $100 a game. That loose a$$ rag you guys were playing on, anybody can get out."
He got outta his car and grabbed his cue with a "Let's get it on."
I pulled Mike aside and told him what was going on.

Well, I truly believe Mike is one of those people that gives weight better than getting it, just because of the psychological factor of believing you're the better player. Well, you guessed it. Mike looked like Mike. Full swing.

$1200 winner at the end. I was pretty glad I followed him out to the car. If Mike was giving up weight, jump on board. I'm not saying he beat champions for the cash, but let him play someone that is at least a ball under him and watch that skinny kid go. And believe me, at one time, 99% or more were at least a ball under this kid.
 
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quedup said:
Clucks isn't that where Mike Fuller plays some nowadays??
It's not what it used to be, but yes. Mike is from around Roxboro. Clucks is right on the VA, NC line.
 
Mike came through Oklaoma a few times and was a great player to watch. Thanks for sharing.

-don
 
Thecoats said:
Mike came through Oklaoma a few times and was a great player to watch. Thanks for sharing.

-don
Yeah, he called me after meeting up with Walden. I don't think he was very happy.
 
Nice story. Michal is a great natural player. He almost won the Camel World 8 Ball tournament.

I've seen other threads where Michael is described as a virtual copy of Johnny Archer. I'm not sure when they first met, but I know Mike had the same great stroke when he was very young before Johnny moved to Raleigh. So even though they have similar strokes and Johnny no doubt helped him greatly with his game, I don't think MIchael's stroke was copied from Johnny or anyone else. He was already a strong player at fourteen with his dad Roger guiding him.
 
unknownpro said:
Nice story. Michal is a great natural player. He almost won the Camel World 8 Ball tournament.

I've seen other threads where Michael is described as a virtual copy of Johnny Archer. I'm not sure when they first met, but I know Mike had the same great stroke when he was very young before Johnny moved to Raleigh. So even though they have similar strokes and Johnny no doubt helped him greatly with his game, I don't think MIchael's stroke was copied from Johnny or anyone else. He was already a strong player at fourteen with his dad Roger guiding him.
I've known him since 90'. Roger, Mike, and me made many a trip together. Mike emulated Johnny in every way. He once told me, "If you're gonna be a champion, play just like a champion." I remember Roger racking for almost an hour practicing the break for Mike. I could go on and on. Mike worked hard to have that stroke. But, he's naturally gifted. Man, did we have some fun with him as my "little cousin."
 
Yes, a couple of you did guess "Bigun's" identity. Let's just leave it at that. Thanks for the interest.
 
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crawfish said:
Yes, a couple of you did guess "Bigun's" identity. Let's just leave it at that. Thanks for the interest.


Do you have the full story of what happened to Mike and why he can't compete anymore?
 
He developed a shake in his stroking arm that he couldn't get rid of. It eventually caused him to give up the game. I think he even got laughed at by fans during a Mosconi Cup because of it. (Makes you feel better about Earl giving them the finger when he plays in the event).

Horrible thing to happen to a very talented and from what I've heard, very nice guy.

I've heard he is an excellent match-up handicapper at pool so I guess that's his only involvement in the game.
 
crawfish said:
It's not what it used to be, but yes. Mike is from around Roxboro. Clucks is right on the VA, NC line.

Talk about a good guy and Coltrain is one of them... Me and him used to sit on the sidelines and bet with the bookie when brass Tap used to have the pro spring fling tourney....That was the good old days=))

:grin:
 
Quit bragging Black..you got the 8. Get up!

....but I get break, BIH after the break, and the 5, 6 7, and 9. :)
 
You didn't go on a thursday night did you??? That's wet t-shirt night and you talk about getttin buck wild!! LOL!!
How is Coltrain by the way? If you see him would you tell him Kenny Wilson said hello?
 
tigerseye said:
Talk about a good guy and Coltrain is one of them... Me and him used to sit on the sidelines and bet with the bookie when brass Tap used to have the pro spring fling tourney....That was the good old days=))

:grin:
You being in Asheville, and knowing the Train, I'm sure we've crossed paths before. I am originally from Weaverville. I've played all of them boys around there.

I just looked back and saw Kenny Wilson. I now know you know me. PM me. Ah hell, it's Keith. How's it going? Know me now?
 
crawfish said:
You being in Asheville, and knowing the Train, I'm sure we've crossed paths before. I am originally from Weaverville. I've played all of them boys around there.

I just looked back and saw Kenny Wilson. I now know you know me. PM me. Ah hell, it's Keith. How's it going? Know me now?

Yes I dooooo
 
crawfish said:
You being in Asheville, and knowing the Train, I'm sure we've crossed paths before. I am originally from Weaverville. I've played all of them boys around there.

I just looked back and saw Kenny Wilson. I now know you know me. PM me. Ah hell, it's Keith. How's it going? Know me now?

I think so...You got Blonde hair?? Got married a couple months ago but other than that i'm good...lol!! How have you been?
 
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