Update on the Des Moines pool scene

pooljunkie75

pooljunkie75

Bruce Johnson
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mikeyfrost said:
It's not about going bust to prove a point, here's all I'm saying. We do have some guys here that could play these gentlemen some and not be complete underdogs. If 20 people put in $250 or so that's a $5k bankroll. It would be like, OK it's time to set our own rivalries aside and run these boys out of here. We doubt each other so no way would we do that type of thing. It's not that there is no money, there's just no money for this stuff.

If Jamie or Chance got in the box and people thought it was a lock there'd be a hell of a rail to cover. Sometimes you just have to show a little gamble is all. With that said I'm not betting a dime either way, just trying to gauge where the sense of community is in this place.
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I thought you were part of our community Mike? If you have faith in your guys, why aren't you throwing them in the box? Hell, why aren't they throwing themselves in the box? I know Mike A. is on AZ, why isn't he throwing his two cents in on these post? It sounds to me like its more about breaking Jamie and his guys than just gambling....? I don't know you very well, and i'm sure you have your reasons, but wouldn't a true gambler jump at the chance of out of towners coming to wager big money?
 
mikeyfrost

mikeyfrost

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pooljunkie75 said:
I thought you were part of our community Mike? If you have faith in your guys, why aren't you throwing them in the box? Hell, why aren't they throwing themselves in the box? I know Mike A. is on AZ, why isn't he throwing his two cents in on these post? It sounds to me like its more about breaking Jamie and his guys than just gambling....? I don't know you very well, and i'm sure you have your reasons, but wouldn't a true gambler jump at the chance of out of towners coming to wager big money?
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Normal circumstances, absolutely would love it. There's 42 pages of why I'm not getting involved and I certainly wouldn't do anything like this at the local room anyway right now.

I'm too new to be a part of this community. I'm sure Mike A. has his reasons for why he is not chiming in. Jamie's a special guy but I certainly wouldnt have been opposed to all of us teaming up.
 
Richardson

Richardson

Who me ?
Silver Member
Mike B. said:
Just to clarify...it was tournament 9 ball, on brand new cloth where you could break 8 mph and make 3 balls.
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Well that does make the story a little different. Hello Mike, are you playing pool yet, or back to takin the summer off ?
 
mikeyfrost

mikeyfrost

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Mike B. said:
Just to clarify...it was tournament 9 ball, on brand new cloth where you could break 8 mph and make 3 balls.
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I don't know Mike B., he said you just ran him over like you were practicing at home lol. I think those were his words anyway, I had been drinking some when I was told this.
 
mikeyfrost

mikeyfrost

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SnapdaNine said:
Bored? Are you sure your not sick.....Bird flu :eek:
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I completely forgot what I wanted to say to you yesterday, I do remember it involved a mix of the Camel Clutch and Atomic Bomb though. No bird or swine flu over here sir.

How's the weather in Cedar Rapids?

I might go golf a little today!
 
deadstroke7

deadstroke7

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I'm board too...

Why does it matter whether or not it was a tournament or gambling? I got some assumptions, but can't really figure that there is that big of difference. Or is there?

Ignorantly yours,:joyful:
 
mikeyfrost

mikeyfrost

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deadstroke7 said:
I'm board too...

Why does it matter whether or not it was a tournament or gambling? I got some assumptions, but can't really figure that there is that big of difference. Or is there?

Ignorantly yours,:joyful:
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The rationalization is anyone can win a race or two especially short races to 7. My personal view is well aligned with this. Some folks have a block between gambling and tournament play as well. Theyre two different animals.
 
deadstroke7

deadstroke7

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
mikeyfrost said:
The rationalization is anyone can win a race or two especially short races to 7. My personal view is well aligned with this. Some folks have a block between gambling and tournament play as well. Theyre two different animals.
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Kinda what I was thinking.

Aside from the pressure*, you can either hit the shot or not. JMO.

* - I guess I want to believe that there isn't any difference if you approach each shot the same way, with same routine, with same perameters. Dunno -- i don't have any experience here, so my theory probably isn't much good.

I do agree that gambling and tournament play are definately two different animals, I just wonder why. You would think it's the same game either way.

Just read in Pool Wars about Earl's off angle combo on the 9 for a Million bucks. Sheesh. But it's still the same shot for a million or nada.

Enlighten me, :thumbup:
 
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Mike B.

AzB Silver Member
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deadstroke7 said:
I'm board too...

Why does it matter whether or not it was a tournament or gambling? I got some assumptions, but can't really figure that there is that big of difference. Or is there?

Ignorantly yours,:joyful:
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The difference is that the longer the match goes, the better player is going to win more often than not. So, the shorter the race or session, it increases the chances of the lesser player.
 
Big Dog

Big Dog

ISPA Master Team Champion
Silver Member
Very true. It happens all the time. That's why a ten ahead set is a good test.

Good morning Mr. Locksmith!
 
jingle

jingle

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
deadstroke7 said:
Kinda what I was thinking.

Aside from the pressure*, you can either hit the shot or not. JMO.

* - I guess I want to believe that there isn't any difference if you approach each shot the same way, with same routine, with same perameters. Dunno -- i don't have any experience here, so my theory probably isn't much good.

I do agree that gambling and tournament play are definately two different animals, I just wonder why. You would think it's the same game either way.

Enlighten me, :thumbup:
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Most people have a different level of nerves/nervousness that kicks in if they have $500 (or name your stakes) of their own on the line as opposed to a $20 tourney entry fee. :wink:
 
deadstroke7

deadstroke7

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Mike B. said:
The difference is that the longer the match goes, the better player is going to win more often than not. So, the shorter the race or session, it increases the chances of the lesser player.
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Thanks Mike. That makes sense...
 
deadstroke7

deadstroke7

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
jingle said:
Most people have a different level of nerves/nervousness that kicks in if they have $500 (or name your stakes) of their own on the line as opposed to a $20 tourney entry fee. :wink:
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Hey jingle. Long time no see, if this is whom I think it is. :thumbup:

the $$ does make a difference I suppose, but I think that is all in your head. The shot is the same for a nickle or 5K. Just my novice opinion.
 
Spimp13

Spimp13

O8 Specialist
Silver Member
jingle said:
Most people have a different level of nerves/nervousness that kicks in if they have $500 (or name your stakes) of their own on the line as opposed to a $20 tourney entry fee. :wink:
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Which can be minimized by booze, but then you trade off a potential drop in shooting. I find it best to get wasted, see how I shoot, and then determine if I need to drink less the next time I lose $500 j/k. Very true though, big difference in tournament vs playing for $$$$ on a nerves level unless it is a big dollar or high importance tournament.
 
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