Where to buy 3C cues?

What can you tell me about the cue that's fourth from the right in those images? The one with the white butt cap? That cue or one like it intrigued me the most when I last visited Dieckman's site.

I think I'm done spending money on cues for this year, but I'd like to get an idea what a Dieckman cue of that design would cost.
I don't know much more than it was good looking when I was standing in front of the rack. I don't go for a lot of flash but enjoy fine workmanship and thought this one satisfied both.

You'll have to ask Dennis for a price. I don't have a clue.
 
Mullyman, it all depend what price range you want to stay at. If you cannot afford a Dieckman, maybe you can find a cuemaker in Japan

A Very dear Friend and mentor of Dieckman was Carl Conlon, who cues were made by Helmstetter / Adams , the CCS design.


Well, actual price isn't a problem. I've spent upwards of $5,000 on pool cues in the past. My only problem with the price is that I'm primarily a pocket player and 3C is something I'm doing as an aversion. I highly doubt that it will become my main game, so I don't want to put a whole lot of money into a cue. I honestly couldn't tell you what my limit would be. At times I feel like 5-600 would be plenty and then I turn around and think a thousand to fifteen hundred might be alright.

To be honest, and fair, I'd have to talk with Dennis about a design and see what it comes in at and then decide if I want to spend that much or not.

Tough decisions all around!
MULLY

I really do appreciate everyone's help in this matter though.
 
I used to think that also.

Fair enough on that one. As I'm getting older, I turned 41 this year, I have found that 9-ball just isn't for me anymore. I've done everything in 9-ball that *I* could hope to accomplish at the amateur level. I've won numerous tournaments, beaten some of the best players around Japan, have a high run of 7 consecutive break run outs......the only next step would be to try the pro tour and I just don't have that desire.....and I don't think I have the skills to compete at that level. Over the past 2 or 3 years or so I've primarily played straight pool.

I got into 3C a long time ago but didn't stick with it very long. I got my handicap up to a 12, which would be a C class level if they were to put levels on. I just recently got back into it because of this new room that opened up in this area. I really like the people that own it so I'm comfortable being there. When I started up again he put me at 10 points. I just recently got moved back up to 12 points so I thought it would be a good time for me to get my own cue. The Dieckman billiard cues really appeal to me but I'm finding that the price is a little more than I want to pay at this point in my 3C career. If I do stick with it and keep getting better and feel like it's something I'm going to be doing for a long time, yeah, no problem spending that much. Right now though......I gotta be careful.
MULLY
 
I found myself unable to maintain interest in pocket billiards as well...who knows what the future holds...

I have played more 3c than pool over the past 2yr and exclusively 3c for the past 4ish months. It is the yang to pool's yin, IMO, and it is every bit as engaging for me. Perhaps even moreso as I already have the stroke and collision knowledge to really pursue the game. I want to go play now.

But, OT-> get yourself a $200-350 3c cue and have at it. Yeah, you can drive a 4x4 on the road, but why would you want to?!:confused:;):smile::D
 
When I turned 22 I found myself ten min away from a carom table...I played the game one time and knew that it was for me. I stopped playing pool entirely. I spent every waking moment of every day on a three cushion table. No pool for an entire year. Then I left that area and no more billiards...back to pool and I still love it I love every cue sport. I think every game presents it's own challenges.

The first time I played nine ball after that I played in a tourney called the midwest showdown...I placed ninth in that...The only trouble I had switching back was I had forgotten how I aimed the balls into the pockets so well...I am just now starting to remember after almost ten years.
 
If you are in Japan then you probably have a good chance of being able to buy an Adam Carom cue. They sell the traditional wood joint or the double joint.

I own a Buffalo carom cue, which is a line of cues intended to be marketed to Europe (Joba Leisure) and not here in the USA (that is what the Helmstetter three Cushion cues are for) that is made by Adam. The Buffalo production cue is fine for me and it fit my modest budget. I would buy more than one shaft though if you do buy an Adam.
 
If you are in Japan then you probably have a good chance of being able to buy an Adam Carom cue. They sell the traditional wood joint or the double joint.

I own a Buffalo carom cue, which is a line of cues intended to be marketed to Europe (Joba Leisure) and not here in the USA (that is what the Helmstetter three Cushion cues are for) that is made by Adam. The Buffalo production cue is fine for me and it fit my modest budget. I would buy more than one shaft though if you do buy an Adam.

Oddly enough the Koreans are buying Adam cues left and right and they're on back order right now.

The guy that runs the pool hall tells me that Adam are the best cues for carom games. As I know nothing about billiard (3C) cues I can only take his word for it. But, I gotta keep my mind open and I would like to try something different. I totally respect his opinion because he's been in 3C for decades and is a very good player. But for some reason I'd really like to try something different like Dieckman or Kilby to show him that Americans can make carom cues too. Pride I guess. But I have to admit that somewhere in my mind I'm a little cautious about going outside of Adam or Longoni because of my lack of knowledge of these types of cues.

Pool cues, sure, I'm right there and can help someone choose a maker depending on what they like and are looking for. But carom cues? I'm lost.

I gotta say that all the feedback in this thread has been exciting. I'm picking up a little bit every day.
MULLY
 
Oddly enough the Koreans are buying Adam cues left and right and they're on back order right now.

The guy that runs the pool hall tells me that Adam are the best cues for carom games. As I know nothing about billiard (3C) cues I can only take his word for it. But, I gotta keep my mind open and I would like to try something different. I totally respect his opinion because he's been in 3C for decades and is a very good player. But for some reason I'd really like to try something different like Dieckman or Kilby to show him that Americans can make carom cues too. Pride I guess. But I have to admit that somewhere in my mind I'm a little cautious about going outside of Adam or Longoni because of my lack of knowledge of these types of cues.

Pool cues, sure, I'm right there and can help someone choose a maker depending on what they like and are looking for. But carom cues? I'm lost.

I gotta say that all the feedback in this thread has been exciting. I'm picking up a little bit every day.
MULLY

I might be able to help you if you have any questions regarding what makes a good carom cue and what are the main differences with a pool cue. I first started making pool cues long time ago but in the past 3 years I have only been concentrating on carom cues. I'm working closely with Frederic Caudron (the best all around carom games player in the World) and I have more than 15 master players ( and 4 world Champion) in Europe and Korea now playing with my cues. So I have gathered quite a lot of information on what players are looking for in a carom cue. One thing actually is the stiffness feel players are looking for in the whole cue (not only the shaft). This is why I've been doing so well with the conical joint, it really is perfect for what this game requires because it makes the joint much more stiff. In any case, if you have any questions regarding carom cues or any makers, I know most of them and what they build, just send me an e-mail, I'll be happy to help you out. Btw, I'm based in Canada. infos@layanicues.com
 
Whoa, I'm kind of digging on that cue third from the left in his photos. How much would something like that run? I'm also looking to ask about making a cue instead of one in stock because I'd like it to be a little longer. I'm tall and those short stubby 3C cues really feel strange to me, I can't get a comfortable body position using them.
MULLY

The pencil drawing of Dieckman is pretty cool.
 
I'm working closely with Frederic Caudron (the best all around carom games player in the World) and I have more than 15 master players ( and 4 world Champion) in Europe and Korea now playing with my cues.

Can you tell us which carom players use Layani cues? That would be great. Thanks! :smile:
 
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