Question. Went from a soft tip to a 9 layer medium (talisman or moori not sure which)

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Destrukkt

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This change was a huge bonus. The 9 layer medium tip is amazing, I can't remember if its a talisman or moori.

Anyways I wanted to know if I loved going from soft to medium.. do you think going to hard would keep producing the positive result? Better shots, better feedback, a little more english (not huge difference.. but better than before).

I am thinking of getting the most layers possible in a hard tip for my bushka, and use this medium 9 layer on my 2nd cue so I can try both over time.
 
I went from a fairly hard tip Triangle (81 hardness) to a Triumph, to a Kamui Super Soft and found I like the Kamui SS (approx. 70 hardness) Just as well. I also like the milk duds sold under the brand Dudleys. Though I seem to now prefer a softer tip I don't think a tip will change your game that much. I can still play with a hard tip, I just have to make sure I chalk it, though I chalk before every shot as part of my pre-shot routines so it isn't really an issue whether I play with a hard or soft tip. Perhaps I just like the sound of the soft tip better.
 
I play with the everest tip thats stock on OB1's. They are a little on the hard side. Every once in a while I will miscue, like once a week, on a draw shot. A friend of mine swears by softer tips. I have never tried em so I dont know what to think. i have a kumai that I am about to put on my extra OB1 shaft.

What's everyone's favorite hard tip?
What's everyone's favorite soft tip?
 
Went from a Moori medium, to a Kamui hard, and loved it. I can't recall the last time I mis-cued, and I like to spin my rock.

Have never liked soft tips.
 
My moori med. needed to much attention, I put kamui meds. on less worry with slick spots an seemed to draw better. Being a c player I need all the help I can get. Also I found that blue diamond chalk seems to hold on better, an go on the tip better.
 
skip said:
My moori med. needed to much attention, I put kamui meds. on less worry with slick spots an seemed to draw better. Being a c player I need all the help I can get. Also I found that blue diamond chalk seems to hold on better, an go on the tip better.
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Ditto on the Morri, Kamui and BD chalk. I also like Wizard med. tips.
 
Well I have a hard tip now and I have mis-cued twice today...

compared to my 9 layered talisman medium tip (which still feels hard).

Not sure why this is happening I did chalk up good everytime. I think I like this 9 layer medium, not only for the hits that never mis-cue but the layers are great.. it lasts forever it seems.

I believe ill change this tip out when its worn to a talisman medium layered one so there on both my cues.


Now a question.. I am not a great player, nor am I bad.. and I read dime sized tips are for experts, and nickel/quarter sizes are for more novice players..

I try to keep mine a dime but usually end up playing with a dime, as it takes a lot of maintance to keep it into a dime shape which wears the tip out faster (by shaping it).

Would I play better with a larger tip? Quarter size? I only use basic english reguarly such as stopping it after it hits the object ball, or bringing to forward after hitting the object ball. I haven't learned how to do anything else... yet
 
Destrukkt said:
Well I have a hard tip now and I have mis-cued twice today...

compared to my 9 layered talisman medium tip (which still feels hard).

Not sure why this is happening I did chalk up good everytime. I think I like this 9 layer medium, not only for the hits that never mis-cue but the layers are great.. it lasts forever it seems.

I believe ill change this tip out when its worn to a talisman medium layered one so there on both my cues.


Now a question.. I am not a great player, nor am I bad.. and I read dime sized tips are for experts, and nickel/quarter sizes are for more novice players..

I try to keep mine a dime but usually end up playing with a dime, as it takes a lot of maintance to keep it into a dime shape which wears the tip out faster (by shaping it).

Would I play better with a larger tip? Quarter size? I only use basic english reguarly such as stopping it after it hits the object ball, or bringing to forward after hitting the object ball. I haven't learned how to do anything else... yet
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The way a tip grips the cue ball has a LOT to do with the miscues. I have a Moori Hard tip on one of my cues, and it plays great, but trying to really juice whitey will often result in a horrible miscue because I get too far out on the cue ball. In the other hand, I bought a shaft from SK Custom Cues that had a Kamui black hard tip on it, and it grabs like a pervet at a topless bar. As far as the dime and nickel radius' go, I dont see much difference, and you dont have to be a pro to use the dime. Try them both out. I tried both and found that my accuracy on longer shots suffered just a little, and I didnt need any extra english anyway, so I switched back to the nickel. Good luck man, and keep trying all this stuff out!


Joe
 
I never chalk up alot. I use a Moori Soft and love it. Have used Medium and Hard tips that were layered and solid and didnt like any of them. I always find myself going back to Moori Soft. People say they mushroom alot but for me it takes MONTHS before mine will barely mushroom just enough for me to see it and thats when I get it re-shaped. I get more English with the Soft and it doesnt sound like a rock hitting the cue ball and gives me great feedback.

I dont think I've ever miscued with my Moori Soft, but the Medium and Hard tips I do atleast once a session.
 
Well monday ill have my 2x4 case.. so I will bring my cues both out and play a lot of games with them together.. then I will get a feel for the medium tip on my lucasi vs the hard tip of my bushka. If I tend to like the medium tip more ill go for a soft next time to try it out.

thanks for the help!

Now all I really need is some damn lessons! A instructor named Ray Martin is in my area and charges $50 an hour... I think I will get an hour or two from him this upcoming week and hopefully he can steer me in the right direction.. Show me what im doing wrong, and teach me how to cut properly etc.

I have only played for 2 month but its been everyday and I love it. I can beat almost all the players at my local bar, but they arent hardcore players they've just played here and there for years (ive played 2months total, never before). However sometimes, which happened 4 times today twice during money games... I get down to the 8, and they have 2 or 3 balls left.. and my 8 is in such a hard spot where I just can't pocket it.. then finally it gets into a spot where I can sink it but its too late, I lose. This happened 2 out of 3 games I played with my friend whom is equal skill as me.. and twice tonight we both came down to the 8 ball and I just have a impossible shot (like the 8 ball in the middle wall at the far end of the table) and I try for it, miss and then my shot moved it into a position for them to sink it. If I don't try for it and play a safety they usually sink it anyways! Frustrating. I am probably trying to get good too fast, just need to accept its going to take a lot of time and practice. I already play 6 hours a day but I think im going to need half a year or so to match these players whom have played 10 years here and there.

I'll have an instructor analyze my playing and steer me into the right direction. I played a video game competitively for years and have won 1st place in nationals, won $12,000 in a tournament, lifetime supply of an energy drink (bawls) and had sponsors. The game started dieing down and I started looking for something new that takes skill and that was a physical sport, not like football, but just something up and out of the computer chair.. so I found pool. I fell in love. I have sunk my savings into beautiful cues, a beautiful case and a table. My room for the table is a bit small, so real games are too frustrating. I use it to practice shots I miss while out playing at the local bar or pool halls. I plan on having pool as a lifetime activity, but for now it is an obsession. I will play not stop in between college and work until I feel I have reached a level I can be proud of.
 
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