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SpiderWebComm

SpiderWebComm

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...since it looks like the last thread was closed/locked or something

Well whaddya know, my ban was lifted early. Imagine that.

Now that I can finally make a post on this thing....I stand by every single word I said in that last thread. I said what I wanted to say with conviction and I'd say it to everyone's face if I could. I'm not a keyboard "player" like a few others on here. I'll leave it at that-- after 16 pages or so in the other thread--- we're beating a dead horse now.

In regards to qualifications to posters.... of course you have to play well to be somewhat qualified. To say that you don't is ludicrous. Why? Because there are just FAR too many super-intelligent pool players who DO play well. Why bother with those who don't. For some reason, there is a notion that good players are mindless ogres who don't understand the technical aspects of the game --- this couldn't be farther from the truth.

Great players have found ways to take a complicated game and make it simple. It's "novel" to debate some of the more exotic math and physics, but it doesn't apply to everyday playing. When you're playing, you perceive lines and feel speed. Thoughts more complicated than that are unnecessary. Like many others here, I know a lot about the technical aspects of pool as they help with foundation. Outside of basic technique, it often doesn't apply to execution.

Do you have to be a good player to be a great teacher? I think so. We can debate that all we want but it is what it is. Why? Because it's SO easy to be a good player (at least to be able to run a rack a bunch of times in a session) that there's no excuse to not be. If you can't, you haven't put in the time to get there. Once again, there are SO many good players who are SMART with pool (and can teach) -- why NOT get a lesson from them? The ones who argue the other direction prob can't play, right? I wouldn't get surgery done by someone who knew everything about the surgery but never cut into a body --- would you?

Before you comment about how David Leadbetter can't beat the guy he's teaching - you're right. However, guys like him aren't REALLY teaching - they're "suggesting" things to already-champion "gifted" players. It's not like Tiger goes to your local golf driving range for a lesson. Why not? That guy is likely smart with golf, right? Wrong. They're idiots in the grand scheme of things. Please don't think I'm knocking ANY instructor on here-- I'm not. I'm just talking in generalities. Like I said - there are just TOO MANY super-smart teachers who play great to pay attention to someone who doesn't. In business, I never shadowed someone who wasn't a multi-millionaire because if they were so smart themselves - they'd be one. Does that mean you can't learn something from a hack? Sure - Efren is quoted as learning from watching complete hacks. However, that's the exception not the rule.

Sorry for the tangent - let's get back on topic....

The internet is a grand thing. It allows the small to be big, the big to be small - and the cover to make it hard to tell the difference. In the end, on this site at least, it's all about knowledge and execution. Some can do one, some can do both, some don't have either. There might even be some who are impostors with one or both... the internet makes it tough to tell. Pay close attention to those who never post videos of themselves playing, ever, or show up to any events - ever. Guys who have screen-names implying they're pros or stars when they're likely not. Before you run to nuthug, make sure there are nuts to hug - catch my drift? It's the nutless that tend to defend each other and band together to form an attack because between 10 guys (literally) - they're hoping to send in one nut.

Good luck with that.

It's good to be back -
Spidey
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
...since it looks like the last thread was closed/locked or something

Well whaddya know, my ban was lifted early. Imagine that.

Now that I can finally make a post on this thing....I stand by every single word I said in that last thread. I said what I wanted to say with conviction and I'd say it to everyone's face if I could. I'm not a keyboard "player" like a few others on here. I'll leave it at that-- after 16 pages or so in the other thread--- we're beating a dead horse now.

In regards to qualifications to posters.... of course you have to play well to be somewhat qualified. To say that you don't is ludicrous. Why? Because there are just FAR too many super-intelligent pool players who DO play well. Why bother with those who don't. For some reason, there is a notion that good players are mindless ogres who don't understand the technical aspects of the game --- this couldn't be farther from the truth.

Great players have found ways to take a complicated game and make it simple. It's "novel" to debate some of the more exotic math and physics, but it doesn't apply to everyday playing. When you're playing, you perceive lines and feel speed. Thoughts more complicated than that are unnecessary. Like many others here, I know a lot about the technical aspects of pool as they help with foundation. Outside of basic technique, it often doesn't apply to execution.

Do you have to be a good player to be a great teacher? I think so. We can debate that all we want but it is what it is. Why? Because it's SO easy to be a good player (at least to be able to run a rack a bunch of times in a session) that there's no excuse to not be. If you can't, you haven't put in the time to get there. Once again, there are SO many good players who are SMART with pool (and can teach) -- why NOT get a lesson from them? The ones who argue the other direction prob can't play, right? I wouldn't get surgery done by someone who knew everything about the surgery but never cut into a body --- would you?

Before you comment about how David Leadbetter can't beat the guy he's teaching - you're right. However, guys like him aren't REALLY teaching - they're "suggesting" things to already-champion "gifted" players. It's not like Tiger goes to your local golf driving range for a lesson. Why not? That guy is likely smart with golf, right? Wrong. They're idiots in the grand scheme of things. Please don't think I'm knocking ANY instructor on here-- I'm not. I'm just talking in generalities. Like I said - there are just TOO MANY super-smart teachers who play great to pay attention to someone who doesn't. In business, I never shadowed someone who wasn't a multi-millionaire because if they were so smart themselves - they'd be one. Does that mean you can't learn something from a hack? Sure - Efren is quoted as learning from watching complete hacks. However, that's the exception not the rule.

Sorry for the tangent - let's get back on topic....

The internet is a grand thing. It allows the small to be big, the big to be small - and the cover to make it hard to tell the difference. In the end, on this site at least, it's all about knowledge and execution. Some can do one, some can do both, some don't have either. There might even be some who are impostors with one or both... the internet makes it tough to tell. Pay close attention to those who never post videos of themselves playing, ever, or show up to any events - ever. Guys who have screen-names implying they're pros or stars when they're likely not. Before you run to nuthug, make sure there are nuts to hug - catch my drift? It's the nutless that tend to defend each other and band together to form an attack because between 10 guys (literally) - they're hoping to send in one nut.

Good luck with that.

It's good to be back -
Spidey
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First!

Glad to see you back.
JoeyA
 
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cmbwsu said:
Thanks Eric. I would say I didn't know I had it in me but Dave might take that out of context :rolleyes:

Bob <I missed you Dave; but, not in "that" way .... >
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Well, as Clint Eastwood would say in Heartbreak Ridge--- "It's not like we're gonna swap spit in the shower...."

Thanks, Bob :)
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Well whaddya know, my ban was lifted early. Imagine that.
What did you get, a get out of jail free card?

Now that I can finally make a post on this thing....I stand by every single word I said in that last thread. I said what I wanted to say with conviction and I'd say it to everyone's face if I could. I'm not a keyboard "player" like a few others on here. I'll leave it at that-- after 16 pages or so in the other thread--- we're beating a dead horse now.
So you're cursing all over again?

There might even be some who are impostors with one or both... the internet makes it tough to tell. Pay close attention to those who never post videos of themselves playing, ever, or show up to any events - ever. Guys who have screen-names implying they're pros or stars when they're likely not. Before you run to nuthug, make sure there are nuts to hug - catch my drift? It's the nutless that tend to defend each other and band together to form an attack because between 10 guys (literally) - they're hoping to send in one nut.
Still salty i see.
Good luck with that.

It's good to be back -
Spidey
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Did someone die and make you the authority?
Seriously, who cares if you post up videos. It's a forum. No one is twisting your arm to believe anyone, and posting a video does not make you more worthy on the forums then other people.
Quite arrogant to say that you are of a higher forum class because you do post videos.

Some people don't have the equipment, some people can't afford the equipment, and some people really don't care.
Deal with it. :D

ps. welcome back
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Did someone die and make you the authority?
Seriously, who cares if you post up videos. It's a forum. No one is twisting your arm to believe anyone, and posting a video does not make you more worthy on the forums then other people.
Quite arrogant to say that you are of a higher forum class because you do post videos.

Some people don't have the equipment, some people can't afford the equipment, and some people really don't care.
Deal with it. :D

ps. welcome back
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agreed, I don't feel inclined to prove myself. I rarely mention runs anyways, but if people don't believe me it doesn't make them any less real.
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Did someone die and make you the authority?
Seriously, who cares if you post up videos. It's a forum. No one is twisting your arm to believe anyone, and posting a video does not make you more worthy on the forums then other people.
Quite arrogant to say that you are of a higher forum class because you do post videos.

Some people don't have the equipment, some people can't afford the equipment, and some people really don't care.
Deal with it. :D

ps. welcome back
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Well, if you go around calling yourself a Superstar - you can choose to hide behind a keyboard and strut around like a peacock --- or you can choose to walk the walk. It is what it is.

No worries, SUPERSTAR... I know what you're made of. I never expected you to post a thing, TRUST ME.

p.s. I'll quote you in the last thread..."post a video or no credability" You make a solid point.... I agree.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
Well, if you go around calling yourself a Superstar - you can choose to hide behind a keyboard and strut around like a peacock --- or you can choose to walk the walk. It is what it is.

No worries, SUPERSTAR... I know what you're made of. I never expected you to post a thing, TRUST ME.
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Once again, your making references about my game, based on my handle, when i have made ZERO references about either.
Quite the obsession you have.

There is no need for strutting as that is arrogant. But apparently, you're so bent, that you feel the need to take the pepsi challenge for some validation to stroke your ego.

You have no idea what i'm made of, and that's precisely what bothers you.
Can't help you there, your just gonna have to deal.
Sorry to say, i will never post a video of myself, and risk death, just so YOU can pass judgment on if i am up to your standards or not, so that my posts can either have more or less merit in your eyes.
TRUST ME, it's never gonna happen.
Sorry to say, but you are simply not that important.
 
cmbwsu said:
Thanks Eric. I would say I didn't know I had it in me but Dave might take that out of context :rolleyes:

Bob <I missed you Dave; but, not in "that" way .... >
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You might want to post a picture of a fire truck while you're at it. I have a feeling this thread will be on fire by noon.
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Once again, your making references about my game, based on my handle, when i have made ZERO references about either.
Quite the obsession you have.

There is no need for strutting as that is arrogant. But apparently, you're so bent, that you feel the need to take the pepsi challenge for some validation to stroke your ego.

You have no idea what i'm made of, and that's precisely what bothers you.
Can't help you there, your just gonna have to deal.
Sorry to say, i will never post a video of myself, and risk death, just so YOU can pass judgment on if i am up to your standards or not, so that my posts can either have more or less merit in your eyes.
TRUST ME, it's never gonna happen.
Sorry to say, but you are simply not that important.
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You're right; however, you proved my point in the last thread. You got cocky over something and threw the "prove it" thing in my face--- which, as usual, I did.

I'm just bringing something to light for the other 20,000 non-partisaned viewers of this forum that not everyone is who they say they are on this forum based on their posts.

Thanks for helping me make my point. There are those who are witty in their posts but hide behind the mask - and those who aren't. I'm not saying you're a bad guy - I'm not. I'm just saying you're a poster of unknown abilities who is afraid to put themselves out there to the world like that. It's totally fine for you to dog others for not posting a video (like in that last thread); however, you're scared to reciprocate. RISK DEATH??? You serious?? You're right - I wouldn't want someone to kill you for posting a video. :scratchhead:

You can spin this however you'd like. It's actually entertaining. But the other 19,980 guys out there who read this understand what I'm talking about.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
p.s. I'll quote you in the last thread..."post a video or no credability" You make a solid point.... I agree.
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Nice little edit after the fact.
But yes i did say that.

Why you ask?
Because you came out with a VERY specific claim.
You said you could do such and such by throwing the cue. And then when you OFFERED to make a video of specific shots that were requested, you mysteriously failed to do so. So over a year goes by, and finally, after a little reminding, you FINALLY post it up.

YOU initially offered to post up a video of whatever shot was requested.

So if you offer and then you bail, why yes, you lose some credibility since you didn't follow through on your initial statement.

Where on the other hand, i have made no such claims, and have not promised to make a video about anything.
When i make some outrageous claim, and then choose to back it with a video because i want people to believe me (which won't happen cause i don't care)
IF i do that, and then dodge the bullet for a year, then yes, you have every right to request the video that i promised, and question my credibility.

As of now, I have made no such preposterous claims, and have not promised a video to back up the aforementioned non existent preposterous claims as a result.
That will never happen.

As such, you argument is moot.

Sorry Spidey, it was a nice try but, no dice.
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Nice little edit after the fact.
But yes i did say that.

Why you ask?
Because you came out with a VERY specific claim.
You said you could do such and such by throwing the cue. And then when you OFFERED to make a video of specific shots that were requested, you mysteriously failed to do so. So over a year goes by, and finally, after a little reminding, you FINALLY post it up.

YOU initially offered to post up a video of whatever shot was requested.

So if you offer and then you bail, why yes, you lose some credibility since you didn't follow through on your initial statement.

Where on the other hand, i have made no such claims, and have not promised to make a video about anything.
When i make some outrageous claim, and then choose to back it with a video because i want people to believe me (which won't happen cause i don't care)
IF i do that, and then dodge the bullet for a year, then yes, you have every right to request the video that i promised, and question my credibility.

As of now, I have made no such preposterous claims, and have not promised a video to back up the aforementioned non existent preposterous claims as a result.
That will never happen.

As such, you argument is moot.

Sorry Spidey, it was a nice try but, no dice.
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Oh there's dice - I made two videos during that time so I wasn't making an outlandish claim. One of which I sucked a ball straight back into a corner pocket while throwing the cue. Like you, your request bored me so I pretty much ignored it. You happened to call me out repeatedly in the last thread while I was on tilt with PJ, so I made your little video.

You seem to enjoy knocking things like CTE, systems in general, other players, etc. You go around calling yourself a superstar. Therefore, you pose yourself to be some kind of player. You can either continue as a poser - or not. You're not the important enough for many of us to care-- but I was just throwing that out there. You're either someone who backs up their talk - or you're not. You seem to be "not." And that's ok.

P.S. When I say I can do something - I can. When asked to prove it - I will. Like me or hate me, people can't say I can't back up what I post. That's prob why I have 80mil rep points or something. People LIKE that. People can't hack the:

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All I see here is yet another internet pissing contest.

You guys worry about your reputation while the rest of us have fun playing...
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Oh there's dice - I made two videos during that time so I wasn't making an outlandish claim. One of which I sucked a ball straight back into a corner pocket while throwing the cue. Like you, your request bored me so I pretty much ignored it. You happened to call me out repeatedly in the last thread while I was on tilt with PJ, so I made your little video.

You seem to enjoy knocking things like CTE, systems in general, other players, etc. You go around calling yourself a superstar. Therefore, you pose yourself to be some kind of player. You can either continue as a poser - or not. You're not the important enough for many of us to care-- but I was just throwing that out there. You're either someone who backs up their talk - or you're not. You seem to be "not." And that's ok.
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If i recall correctly, when the chucking of the cue came up in the original thread (as in YOUR thread from way back when), i specifically said that it was not for me but didn't knock if it would be good for anyone else. The discussion then proceeded to why would someone do the technique if they could already do it with their normal stroke.
Then i came up with some options, and you chose one of them, and then you bailed. Simple as that.
You got called out cause you bailed. If you hadn't of bailed originally, it would have never come up. But you DID bail and as such, your credibility was in question, and then you finally settled it.

You keep making references to what i call myself and how i pose myself.

If i had known that you were going to get so bent over a handle that was chosen many years ago, i would have called myself CHEESECAKE instead, cause for real, if you are bent over a handle, you have issues.
Seriously, you don't see me hounding you on how to spin a web and how i don't think you can cause of your handle, do you?
Get over it already.


YOU are the one who continually makes references to my game, i don't.
Personally i could care less if i play great, or just flat out suck at pool but you are the one who seems stuck on that, as if, the only way someone is allowed to post in an aiming thread, is if Spidey gets a firm grasp on their speed, so that in your mind, you can gauge if they know what they are talking about or not.
Sounds like a snob to me.

When i make some claim and say i will back it up with a video, and then DON'T, then you can talk to me.
That is the ONLY comparable situation.

Later Spidey. Keep working on that web.
 
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