Two tricky shots

An oldie but goodie is to freeze the one and two ball against the middle of the end rail in the center and then rest the three ball on the rail on top of the one and two ball. Then go to the break end and put the cue ball in the center as if you were breaking. Bet them a beer you can shoot the cue ball down the table and hit the three ball first. Then shoot the cue ball softly toward the space between the one and two ball, and then hit the bed of the table with the palm of your hand, the one and two will roll apart and the three ball will drop down and the cue ball will hit it.
 
While trying the shot #1 I came up with this shot.(from the other side of the table)
I had the 1 ball and cue ball lined up to the pocket side of the first diamond, and aimed just right of center on the one ball.
http://www.youtube.com/user/pool2021#p/a/u/0/z2ByPAouy_g
The 5 ball banks back pretty consistantly.
You can also take out the 1 ball and still make the 5 come back.. shooting on the 3 ball, but not as consistant for me.
Maybe a well known shot but it was new to me...
Merry Christmas
Mark
 
bob: on the second shot, one could try to reposition the object ball by hitting the ball above. was this discussed?
 
sausage said:
bob: on the second shot, one could try to reposition the object ball by hitting the ball above. was this discussed?
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I think this was mentioned. There are two ways you can imagine doing it. One way is to carom the cue ball from the 4 to the 5. The problem with that is that if the 4 is shot partly into the 5, the kiss line for the cue ball does not go towards the 4 so you cannot hit the 4 without curving after contact. It is possible to do this with a masse shot, but it's real, real hard.

Another way is to shoot the 4 very slightly away from the 5 with a nearly full hit. The cue ball can then follow forward and hit the 5 two or three times, herding it towards the pocket. Again, possible but I'd pay to see it.
 
am i missing something here. either bank the five or just jump the cue ball a little and pocket the five right in.
 
hrhr, love it Bob :)

still nice to see, that someone could start such a discussion with situations like you ve shown up :p
just woke up , sittin here with my first coffee and so the day begun with a smile on my face- thx Bob :p

C^mon guys- both shots can be legally done :p giddy up^^

happy new year to everyone,

Ingo
 
am i missing something here. either bank the five or just jump the cue ball a little and pocket the five right in.
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The bank was sort of eliminated by the phrase "back ball of a spotted pair of balls straight into the corner pocket."

Jumping the cue ball a little is one of several ways to make the 5 ball straight in.

Last night I tried playing the cue ball nearly full on the 4 ball to drive it straight across the table and to carom onto the 5 ball. With the right hit and follow, it is possible to hit the 5 ball twice and get enough speed on it to get it to the pocket. It is the sort of shot I'd offer 5 tries on.
 
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