Forget it......
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Anyone know where 3/8x10 brass SW style pins
- Thread starter Eric Wynne
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Forget it......
Just so I dont have to read this bickering anymore Here are a copy of the ask the cue maker forum rules for all to read..
"This Forum is called Ask the Cuemaker.
The following rules are put in place to make this forum a positive informative place where anyone can ask the quality cuemakers who frequent our forum questions.
Although anyone can participate in the thread’s discussions and ask questions, it should primarily be the experienced cuemakers who provide the answers. It might be appropriate for non-cuemakers to give some input on occasions. But that should be the exception instead of the norm.
The forum shall never be used by cuemakers or non-cuemakers to criticize other cuemakers, the quality of their work, or their methods.
All discussions shall be had in a spirit of cooperation with the desire to learn and share knowledge. This means anyone can ask questions and the questions should be answered by cuemakers. Once the cuemaker gives his opinion it is to be taken as such and not to be criticized. There are many ways to build quality cues and there are many variations on opinions of what constitutes quality work. Therefore no one is allowed to start criticizing and slamming other peoples methods. Simply state what you feel is the best method and it should be left at that.
Supply sources can be asked for, but all replies should be sent in the form of Private Messages. This protects our cuemakers supply sources from the general public. Almost no industry shares their wholesale sources with their customer base. So in fairness to our cuemakers we ask that this type of information be handled through Private Messages.
These rules are meant to enhance the standard rules which are already in place and are expected to be followed by all participants.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=25061
As always, if you have any questions please feel free to ask Mike Howerton ( Azhousepro ) or Dave Wilson ( Mr. Wilson ).
If you need to report rule infractions, there is a button in the right hand corner of each post that you can use to anonymously report to us with.
In addition:
Pricing for materials and work should be discussed in private or started as a thread in the " Wanted / Sale " area.
This is not a sales forum."
"This Forum is called Ask the Cuemaker.
The following rules are put in place to make this forum a positive informative place where anyone can ask the quality cuemakers who frequent our forum questions.
Although anyone can participate in the thread’s discussions and ask questions, it should primarily be the experienced cuemakers who provide the answers. It might be appropriate for non-cuemakers to give some input on occasions. But that should be the exception instead of the norm.
The forum shall never be used by cuemakers or non-cuemakers to criticize other cuemakers, the quality of their work, or their methods.
All discussions shall be had in a spirit of cooperation with the desire to learn and share knowledge. This means anyone can ask questions and the questions should be answered by cuemakers. Once the cuemaker gives his opinion it is to be taken as such and not to be criticized. There are many ways to build quality cues and there are many variations on opinions of what constitutes quality work. Therefore no one is allowed to start criticizing and slamming other peoples methods. Simply state what you feel is the best method and it should be left at that.
Supply sources can be asked for, but all replies should be sent in the form of Private Messages. This protects our cuemakers supply sources from the general public. Almost no industry shares their wholesale sources with their customer base. So in fairness to our cuemakers we ask that this type of information be handled through Private Messages.
These rules are meant to enhance the standard rules which are already in place and are expected to be followed by all participants.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=25061
As always, if you have any questions please feel free to ask Mike Howerton ( Azhousepro ) or Dave Wilson ( Mr. Wilson ).
If you need to report rule infractions, there is a button in the right hand corner of each post that you can use to anonymously report to us with.
In addition:
Pricing for materials and work should be discussed in private or started as a thread in the " Wanted / Sale " area.
This is not a sales forum."
Thanks for your objective reply and pointing out how you understand the rule to be. Taken at face value that first sentence would seem to indicate all sources, such as Home Depot, and would seem to be in line with your understanding. Like you said, it may not make sense, but rules are rules.
However with the wording in the following sentence I would take that as a definition over the first, meaning wholesale sources, but whatever.
I have forwarded a post to the moderator in hopes of clearing this up, so as to help eliminate any doubt on this and help in calming the atmosphere around here.
Regards,
Frank
Frank, I fail to understand why the difference between wholesale and retail is a major issue.
As for pricing, I think I was pretty clear.
What else does this have to do with "ask the cuemaker" ??
As for pricing, I think I was pretty clear.
What else does this have to do with "ask the cuemaker" ??
Yeah, the question wasn't about pricing, that part I understand, it was when the OP asked for a source and a retail souce was given it offended certain members.
Are we to not reference retail sources too? That is my question.
Thanks,
Frank
As far as I'm concerned, if someone tells the world that Safeway has a great butcher section...who cares.
That is a public store open to the world to shop.
Unless you work there, don't try and sell steaks here and discuss pricing ( it changes ). The rules cover this.
There are people who protect their sources and that is certainly their perogative.
Does that help?
That is a public store open to the world to shop.
Unless you work there, don't try and sell steaks here and discuss pricing ( it changes ). The rules cover this.
There are people who protect their sources and that is certainly their perogative.
Does that help?
Yes.
Thank you for taking the time clearing that up for me.
Regards,
Frank
(emphasis added by me in quote of Mr. Wilson's post)
"This protects our cuemakers supply sources from the general public."
cuemakers supply sources
cuemakers supply sources
cuemakers supply sources
cuemakers supply sources
cuemakers supply sources...
Perhaps it was too much to expect a guy who can't understand
this to be able to distinguish the grave difference
between 'lying' and 'explaining'.
Dale<still telling the truth>
Dale,
Maybe you were typing when a clarification was given, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2332572&postcount=27
I also believe we, you and I, got off on the wrong foot here, and part of that may be how I initially responded to your way of explaining a $9 piece of wood is actually $50, I don't know, but it is apparent that you feel slighted by me.
So I'll apologize, publicly, if I've upset you.
I was simply trying to convey how to justify the price of a cue based on labor, not marked up component parts, that way it's easier for the customer to understand, instead of having to stomach a $50 dollar piece of wood that he'll surely find out doesn't cost that much. I wasn't calling you a liar so much as pointing out the implication that your customer may think when he perceives the "whole-$50-piece-of-BEM-thing". Sorry to offend.
If you'd like to continue this conversation, we should take it to PM's however, as it has nothing to do with 3/8x10 brass pins anymore.
Sorry to everyone else who's had to endure this.
Regards,
Frank
We willl be making more down the road and despite what anyone says i make these pins myself but as i said in my email to you last week i think you and i have a personality conflict and will just pass on doing business with you but other then that i will have some done in the near furture and post online when there done,
In fact I was typing as the second post was being made.
It seems to me you misunderstood completly...
but, that being said, I appreciate, and agree.
Dale
Eric Wynne
Banned
Well Lee , I don't wan't to do business with you either ... I asked for pins , you are out , I asked for arbor and blades , got the arbor and 1 blade but you sent larger blades I didn't order ... I wanted live centers , you are out ... wanted a dremel holder for ring cutting , didn't get that either ... also wanted a lathe but couldn't get that either ... why do you offer items for sale and can't deliver, shouldn't you let people know before you accept their money the item is out of stock ... you took my money and sent me something else and then tell me I'm wrong and don't want my business ... Seems everything you offer will be coming soon ... Well Lee next time you take a dump don't fall back in it ... Everything i have stated is the truth and the whole truth , and there is much more ... How about the Storm CNC Lee?The machinist I'm getting the pins from designed the pins you claim to make ... Same principle applied to your lathe and cnc ... Buddy it's a small world and getting smaller for you ...
