Where "exactly" do diamonds go on a table?

[preacherman]

Without getting into a long story, I have a 9 foot table with a custom made top, BUT it at this point doesn't have diamonds (in my case circles).
Now obviously if you are going to learn diamond system or almost any bank shots, etc. the diamonds location is key. That being said how do you figure exactly were the diamonds go. What is your measuring point(s)?

Thanks!

 

[cleary]

Fractions. half way between the corner pockets is a diamond, half way between that diamond and the pocket is another diamond. And so on...

 

[preacherman]

Response on measuring diamonds...

Okay I have to ask how far in from the rails.

 

[macguy]

Without getting into a long story, I have a 9 foot table with a custom made top, BUT it at this point doesn't have diamonds (in my case circles).
Now obviously if you are going to learn diamond system or almost any bank shots, etc. the diamonds location is key. That being said how do you figure exactly were the diamonds go. What is your measuring point(s)?

Thanks!

On a 9 foot table the middle diamond is 25 inches from the tip of the bumper and the other are 12 1/2 inches from the center diamond. You also have to consider how far they are in from the playing surface on the rail.

 

[Scott Lee]

Jim...Take a look at either of the Beard's books (Banking With the Beard; The Gospool). Both have accurate representations of where the "diamonds" or sites, are located.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Okay I have to ask how far in from the rails.

 

[macguy]

Okay I have to ask how far in from the rails.

I just measured my Gold Crown and they were 3 3/4 inches in. However I also have a old table from the 1920's with narrow wood rails and the are like 3 inches. There is probably a correct formula though because when you shoot at the diamond sometimes you shoot through the rail and sometimes right on the diamond. The position of the diamond would change on shooting through the rail. You would be hitting a different place depending on how far in it is.

 

[3kushn]

http://www.wpa-pool.com/index.asp?content=rules_spec

 

[Scott Lee]

Tom...I saw nothing there relating to placement of diamonds/sites...which isn't surprising, since they are only dealing with 9' tables, and diamond placement would be consistent with all 9' tables.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

http://www.wpa-pool.com/index.asp?content=rules_spec

 

[realkingcobra]

Without getting into a long story, I have a 9 foot table with a custom made top, BUT it at this point doesn't have diamonds (in my case circles).
Now obviously if you are going to learn diamond system or almost any bank shots, etc. the diamonds location is key. That being said how do you figure exactly were the diamonds go. What is your measuring point(s)?

Thanks!

Look, find the center of your two end rails, that's the middle of the rail measured from both ends that's where the center diamond goes on both end rails as far as from end to end goes, the center of the diamond should be 1 1/4" from the formica finish of the rail at the feather strip & cloth.

Ok, now a 9ft is 50"x100", for the 3 diamonds on the end rails, divide 50" by 4, and this gives you the distance between diamonds at 12 1/2".

When figuring diamond for the side rails, you start with the side pocket. On a GC the casting is 6" across, the diamonds close to the side pocket are spaced 25" apart, so 25" -6" of pocket casting leaves 19", then divide that in half and that leaves 9 1/2"...so the first diamond on a side rail is
12 1/2" from dead center of the side pocket left and right, or 9 1/2" measured from the end of the rail at the side pocket casting, then every 12 1/2" from that diamond spaced out for the next 2 diamonds on the way to the corner pockets...that's all 3 diamonds now for the side rails.

There'll be a test on this in the morning

 

[macguy]

Tom...I saw nothing there relating to placement of diamonds/sites...which isn't surprising, since they are only dealing with 9' tables, and diamond placement would be consistent with all 9' tables.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

You didn't read close enough

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"12 ½ inches [31.75 cm] from sight to sight on a 9-foot regulation table
11 ½ inches [29.20 cm] from sight to sight on a 8-foot regulation table.

The center of each sight should be located 3 11/16 (+ ) inches [93.6625 mm (+ 3.175 mm)] from the nose of the cushion. The sights may be round (between 7/16 [11.11 mm] and ½ inch [12.7 mm] in diameter) or diamond-shaped (between 1 x 7/16 [25.4 x 11.11 mm] and 1 ¼ x 5/8 inch [31.75 x 15.875 mm]). Any nameplates and score counters should be flush level with rail top. All rail bolts should be thus located that when properly torqued render a quiet and optimum rebound from any point of the cushion nose of the table."

 

[olauzon]

jim, they need to go on the rail, preferably on the top of it. hope this helps.

 

[preacherman]

Real funny!

Real funny - I think we got that far. I wan't to know "exactly" were they go, no guess work or approximates.

Jim

 

[SK Custom Cues]

If you can't read and understand what RKC and Macguy wrote, it sounds like you might need to hire someone to come to your house. Another way is to go to your local pool hall and study their tables.

Look, find the center of your two end rails, that's the middle of the rail measured from both ends that's where the center diamond goes on both end rails as far as from end to end goes, the center of the diamond should be 1 1/4" from the formica finish of the rail at the feather strip & cloth.

Ok, now a 9ft is 50"x100", for the 3 diamonds on the end rails, divide 50" by 4, and this gives you the distance between diamonds at 12 1/2".

When figuring diamond for the side rails, you start with the side pocket. On a GC the casting is 6" across, the diamonds close to the side pocket are spaced 25" apart, so 25" -6" of pocket casting leaves 19", then divide that in half and that leaves 9 1/2"...so the first diamond on a side rail is
12 1/2" from dead center of the side pocket left and right, or 9 1/2" measured from the end of the rail at the side pocket casting, then every 12 1/2" from that diamond spaced out for the next 2 diamonds on the way to the corner pockets...that's all 3 diamonds now for the side rails.

There'll be a test on this in the morning

You didn't read close enough

Quote
"12 ½ inches [31.75 cm] from sight to sight on a 9-foot regulation table
11 ½ inches [29.20 cm] from sight to sight on a 8-foot regulation table.

The center of each sight should be located 3 11/16 (+ ) inches [93.6625 mm (+ 3.175 mm)] from the nose of the cushion. The sights may be round (between 7/16 [11.11 mm] and ½ inch [12.7 mm] in diameter) or diamond-shaped (between 1 x 7/16 [25.4 x 11.11 mm] and 1 ¼ x 5/8 inch [31.75 x 15.875 mm]). Any nameplates and score counters should be flush level with rail top. All rail bolts should be thus located that when properly torqued render a quiet and optimum rebound from any point of the cushion nose of the table."

Real funny - I think we got that far. I wan't to know "exactly" were they go, no guess work or approximates.

Jim

 

[preacherman]

Thanks MacGuy

Very good answer thanks!