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At nine ball, you would have ball in hand after his lousy break, just like for any foul later in the game. This is by the World Standardized Rule. A push out is only allowed on the shot immediately after a legal break. There is never a rebreak at nine ball.So I was racing a friend earlier and he broke and completely scratched without really breaking the balls. I (being the douche that I am) chose to have him re-rack and have me break. Then it occurred to me; what if your opponent scratches with a foul break, and you choose to break and after you break you leave your opponent with no visible shot. If your opponent is on one foul already, are they allowed to push?
Sorry, if this is there is an existing post on this, I am too lazy to search for it
In APA 9-ball it is not a legal break if 4 balls do not contact a rail on the break. This may be what the OP is referring to. Then, I guess if it was APA, there wouldn't be a push shot, would there? Unless it was APA Masters, then I know that there is a push shot, but I don't know if the 4 balls hitting a rail on the break is in effect. Like Vinnie Barbarino used to say: "I'm SO CONFUSED!!!".
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Which rules are you playing by? There are several sets, and they differ on fouls on the break. Here are the World Standardized Rules
APA 9ball is three balls hitting a rail after a legal break hitting the 1ball first and APA 8ball is four balls hitting a rail with no pushout in 9ball exp. in Masters division. The old Texas Express rules gave the oponent the option to take the break or pass it back on any foul during breaking or even stopping the ball in travel after a misscue even if it didn't cross the headstring--Leonard