Charlie, this is a very classy response. I'm happy you saw that I was in no way accusing you of anything malicious. I know you have only the best interests of the game at heart.
Thanks,
Steve
Amsterdam Billiards 14.1 League Night 1
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Charlie, this is a very classy response. I'm happy you saw that I was in no way accusing you of anything malicious. I know you have only the best interests of the game at heart.
Thanks,
Steve
and just for the record...
I was dead tired, at work , drinking, fighting with my wife, and just wanted to sit back and knock some balls around.
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I was dead tired, at work , drinking, fighting with my wife, and just wanted to sit back and knock some balls around.
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I may have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed yesterday and may have just interpreted the tone as somewhat elitist and that Charlie should not tell the people on AZ what happens here.
I have the impression that you have been involved in Amsterdam Straight Pool for quite a while and to me, you are the voice of Amsterdam. At least an informal voice of the Amsterdam Straight Pool League here on AZB.
I guess I don't really agree. If someone sees you playing X and asks how you did, can you tell that someone? If someone asks if there were any high runs, can you tell that? In our non-league games that happens routinely. In our leagues that happens routinely. In our tournaments, that happens too.
If people are free to discuss their matches, I think they should be free to discuss them on the internet.
I actually think it is good for the game to get some discussion of games, results, runs out in the world. The owner at Red Shoes asked me to put something out there about some of the 14.1 tournament results and I did. I talked about how someone was playing Hunter close until he pulled away. I threw in something about a big run the player may have had in the previous week. A bit of puffing but good for the game I think.
In the example I gave above, I may have painted the match a little closer than it actually was. The reason could be to make the other player feel better about his game and more enthusiastic about improving. It might make another non-player think the gap is maybe not so big between the pros and the league players and maybe I can reach my goals. Even if in my heart of hearts, I know, and Hunter knows that the gap will never be closed, it gives others something to strive for.
These others then may become the fans of 14.1 that fly out to New Jersey to watch the real pros do it right. They pay to spectate and help keep 14.1 going. I think in the long run, it helps the top players.
He may have a target on his back now and that is too bad.
So maybe it is the scores and how it looks to the untutored eye.
Dennis
p.s.
Steve: I love what you have done for the game and what you continue to do for the game and I love the way you play the game. From my perspective, I just think it does not hurt 14.1 in general, to get this stuff out there. It gets more people talking about 14.1, trying to improve, believing they can do it, and helping in various ways support the game.
JMO
I'm at a new job and it's not as easy for me to post here during work as in the past... in the meantime, I just felt it was important to comment on the "elitist" angle.
My first post was not intended as such, and I would have written exactly the same thing if I was a D player. What I said was not based on any level of play at all - I think it's simply the decent thing to do to let your opponent know that a match he's playing will be a bit under the microscope.
I've re-read that first post and I am certain I said nothing that implied I felt this way because of a certain level of play. I said what I said because of how I feel as a human being.
- Steve
My first post was not intended as such, and I would have written exactly the same thing if I was a D player. What I said was not based on any level of play at all - I think it's simply the decent thing to do to let your opponent know that a match he's playing will be a bit under the microscope.
I've re-read that first post and I am certain I said nothing that implied I felt this way because of a certain level of play. I said what I said because of how I feel as a human being.
- Steve
and there you have it folks. Steve admits that he is a human being instead of the 14.1 machine we think he is.
Ugh... this was not meant to be about me. I was bringing up what I thought was a legitimate concern. I won't mention it again.
- Steve
- Steve
I'm just trying to lighten things up, Steve. It's not about you.
Maybe we can let the thread die now.
Maybe we can let the thread die now.
I won the 2007 Lagging World Championships. In my world, you get the 7. Consider that a challenge for the next TAR PPV.
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Bring it on Sapolis you are going down !!! You know here we are having a nice conversation and you have to and issue these fighting words lol. I guess im going to have to put the smack down lag wise on you like I did to Mika and Chris. But before we do I will certainly ask you if its cool that I post the results of said contest as I want to be courteous to my opponent.
lol lol lol Sorry Stevie couldnt resist it.
Guys come on lets let this all go. I should have asked Chris if he was cool with me posting the results on how he and I both played it is the right thing to do because as he said I dont want anyone to feel as though they are under a microscope and to me their feeling are paramount. I know that if someone wrote about me playing like crap hypothetically I wouldn't be too psyched not that I would ever word it like that.
We are all here to promote our incredible sport and take it further so lets try and focus on that.
On another note I can not wait to play Steve in league as he is definitely a huge idol for me within our game. I got the chance to sweat a bunch of his matches in Maryland and we should re nickname him silk cause he plays so smooth.
As for you Blackjack well lets just say your lagging days are numbered. I also heard a rumor about your lags that you hide duct tape on the bottom rail to catch the cue ball. Like i said its a rumor but it comes from a very reliable source. Im just throwing it out there !!!!!!
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As for you Blackjack well lets just say your lagging days are numbered. I also heard a rumor about your lags that you hide duct tape on the bottom rail to catch the cue ball. Like i said its a rumor but it comes from a very reliable source. Im just throwing it out there !!!!!!
Remember, Charlie... it's only cheating if you get caught.
sausage
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steve: charlie has no Emily Post obligation, to inform his opponents that he's going to discuss the match afterward. if he does this every match, most players are going to look at him like he's a goof-ball. i can't imagine anyone caring. what's the difference if it's talked about at the event with other players / spectators or talked about in this forum? EVERYONE talks about their matches.
even the best have bad days and i doubt that losing to a "lesser" player then having it "exposed" on the net would have any bearing on their credentials what so ever. if one is worried about this then they shouldn't enter a PUBLIC pool tournament.
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If I live to a thousand years old I'll never understand what your second paragraph has to do with anything I said.
Perhaps we should stop talking about this. I think you're all nuts, and you all think I'm nuts. I'm totally fine with this, as you all are. We are here for one purpose. Let's get back to that.
For the record, I agree that it would indeed be very awkward for Charlie to inform his opponent. Whether he chooses to inform or not, I hope he continues to write about his experience.
- Steve
Well Mitch... if you play like I do - then the more I play, the more I whine. For most of us, that is an endless cycle. However, I am the Efren Reyes of the lagging world - and Charlie isn't.
sausage
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steve: it was in response to your;
from my perspective, i think that you are too worried about perceptions. if you play at 75% against a "lesser" opponent and they win or come darned close, i'd expect them to brag a little. maybe the lesson here is to always play your best then you won't have to worry.