Searing on Ebay
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That cue started at 6K , about a month ago"
It's a bad idea to knock someones price.Your lucky you haven't been red repped yet.If the sale was on AZ you would be getting ripped for this comment.
Why is it bad?I think and opinion that has substance ends up being fact.Kind of strange if all were aloud to do is say good things only.I feel like we all should hold hands and sing Kumbyah.It's a bad idea to knock someones price.Your lucky you haven't been red repped yet.If the sale was on AZ you would be getting ripped for this comment.
Why is it bad?I think and opinion that has substance ends up being fact.Kind of strange if all were aloud to do is say good things only.I feel like we all should hold hands and sing Kumbyah.
It's a very simple concept... if you think it is over priced don't buy it and move along. That is the policy set forth by the mods.
It's a bad idea to knock someones price.Your lucky you haven't been red repped yet.If the sale was on AZ you would be getting ripped for this comment.
Bob,
I would never go on someone's thread that was selling an item
and talk down about that item, I believe that would be in poor taste.
The OP was not from the guy who is selling this cue
but rather some guy who saw this cue on ebay and
decided to let everyone on AZ know about it.
And I gave my opinion of it.
Your above statement is correct.
But IMO the policy if for a fellow members selling something on
AZ and in no way would the Mod's policy pertain to something
being sold on Ebay.
I would say you are also correct in your statement since this was just a heads-up to an Ebay auction and not a formal for sale thread in the forum.
With that said, $4,500 for a Searing with inlays is not unreasonable at all IMO.
Nuff said... I'm breaking my own policy...
GoTulane
Shizzle-rific
Price is good, since....
$4,500 is reasonable, since the seller will also not ship - must provide for HAND-DELIVERY:thumbup:
Quote from the sale:"No shipping will be listed due to the fact item needs to be hand delivered. Special arrangements to be made for out of State and out of Country purchase."
$4,500 is reasonable, since the seller will also not ship - must provide for HAND-DELIVERY:thumbup:
Quote from the sale:"No shipping will be listed due to the fact item needs to be hand delivered. Special arrangements to be made for out of State and out of Country purchase."
I don't need to make a comparison.
My conclusion is only based on my opinion.
I would never spend thousands of dollars on
a very basic cue no matter what cue maker it came from.
I love a beautiful cue as much as anyone here.
Of course everyone has a their own opinion of what beautiful is.
perhaps, but if u think it's overpriced simply because u wouldnt spend thousands of dollars on a cue of that design then thats not really justification. it's like if i were to buy the mona lisa and keep it at my house, i wouldnt pay 1000 for it but that doesnt mean it's not worth it. if i were buying it for resale then thats a different story. the point is that a new cue from dennis with that design would probably cost around the same price, perhaps a little bit less. to u it might seem like a lot of money to spend on a cue of that design but if u want perfection then u must pay for it...even if it's on a simpler cue. and there clearly are a lot of people who are willing to pay for something like this as other searings similar to this have been sold at this price point before so to knock the price based on personal opinion and not based on fact is a bit weak.
also, u r right that the forum rules do not apply to ebay so u can knock the price. but keep in mind that for a cue of this stature, chances are the seller is on az so in situations like these it would be best to just steer clear of it.
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You make good points and I knew I would take
some flaming for my comment about the price.
Part of my attitude is based on a pet peeve of mine that
will also get me flamed..LOL
Here we go "My Pet Peeve":
I LOVE cues and the Top Tier Cue Makers make true
Masterpieces and they sell for 7K-10K-20K and up.
My pet peeve is Top Tier Cue Makers trading on
their name and reputation when making very simple
"player's cues" $2,500 - $4,000 for cues with 4 simple
points, no veneers, no inlays in the points or butts, OR
no points at all or inlays just a couple of rings on the cue.
Did they sprinkle the cue with magic pixie dust? OR are they
trading on their fame & reputation to get thousands of dollars
on cues with out putting in the work to make that cue
special and unique?
OK I have vented let the Flames Begin :thumbup:
Ok, you are a little off here.
You said that you thought the cue was overpriced. Then you justified it by saying that YOU would not pay that much. These are 2 completely different statements. One says that the item is priced higher than its fair market value, the other says that it is priced too high as to be worth it TO YOU.
Look, I may be of the opinion that NO CAR is worth more than $15000. I have every right to NEVER spend more than $15,000 on car as long as I live. But to then criticize mercedes for selling cars for $50,000 + as way overpriced would be in error. Because that is what the market price is for that car. The proof is because they sell for that every day all over the world. That fact is NOT a matter of opionion. Your OPINION may be that a chevy is as good or better than a mercedes. The FACT is that a mercedes is worth more on the open market. Do you see the big distinction here?
Another thing about your pet peeve is that it DOES NOT APPLY here. There is no cuemaker selling his cue here. You are taking an example from a secondary market sale and transposing it to the cuemaker. What Searing sells his cues for to the original purchaser and what his cues sell for on the secondary market are not the same. MANY people would much rather pay a good premium to own one of his cues today than wait for many years to get one from him. Very basic principle of supply and demand. The FACT is that many more people want to own a searing than there are available cues. This drives prices up AND justifies the selling prices of the cues. Again, this is fact, not opinion!
You can get upset over it, but it does not make it any less factual. I can find many people who think it is just INSANE to spend more than $100 on any cue. Does this somehow change the value of any cues that you own? No matter what you say to these people, they will NEVER believe that a simple peice of wood (even ones with inlays and artistry) should sell for more than $100 or so. Are a fool for spending more than $100? OR, maybe YOU see the value in your purchase and feel it is more than worth it? Can you not understand it is the EXACT same situation, just at another point on the same line?
In other words, you comletely understand that quality is worth paying more for, but you want to be able to say where that line is drawn? You DO understand the concept, and will pay extra for it, but then will criticize others for feeling the same way but are a bit higher up on the spectrum?
In my OPINION, I think if someone is HONESTLY looking for a cue with absolutely NO other consideration for anything other than a tool to play pool with, I think you can get that for $300 or less. This means that you are paying for something other than just a stick to hit balls with. I think it IS worth more money to own a cue that you won't find 12 other guys shooting with the exact one. I think it IS worth more to have a fine instrument with some nice artistry in it. I think it IS worth more to have a cue that will be worth more than half of what you paid for it after one year of ownership. I could go on, but I think you get my point.
How could you possibly think you could tell me ( or anyone else) exactly how much any of these qualities are worth to us?
There is ONE way to quantify what these features are worth-- put it up for sale on the open market! You will find out pretty quick if there is a difference between what your OPINION of its value and the FACT of market value!
My .02
Jw
JW,
Your post was very thought out and worded nicely.
However you took my post and tried to make it into something
other than what I said.
I did not say that the Searing Cue was over priced for the Market.
I said "IN MY OPINION" it was over priced for such a basic design.
This means that it is my opinion which I have the right to believe & share.
At no time did I assume what your or anyone else's opinions are on the
value of this cue.
Some people read these forums the educate themselves by reading others opinions/reviews of cues/cases/etc......
I simply offered my opinion if your's differs then please write your own opinion/review of the item in question.
As I have a right to my opinions you have a right to your's.
As the dust settles and every who wishes has been heard on the forum
someone may come along and wade through our differences and make
an other wise informed decision to buy or not buy.
Ok then. Well, I already went into great deal about the difference between opinion and facts. If you are saying that YOU would never spend that much on the cue, I sure cannot take issue with that.
In your first post it simply made the statement that the cue was way overpriced. Yes I know you put the " IMO" after it. But darn near every post on this forum is someone's opinion. Kinda goes without saying. The way your post came across it sure seemed as though you were saying the cue was priced much higher than what was a fair market price. NOT that it was just not worth that to you.
If you had just worded it that way, I doubt you would have gotten much of a reaction. I think there is a difference between saying " wow, that is a bit out of my price range" or " well, I can't see myself spending that much money on that" AND " That is way overpriced". Don't you agree?
I believe the cue to be well in line with market value, and there is much basis for that belief.
If I misread, or misinterpreted your intent, I apologize. I did feel it was important to make the distinstion though.
Jw
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