Like Earl says "A beauty, a real beauty " Ray , you are great in person or maybe youre just a good salesman ? You just jump in wherever and whenever on here like some self appointed leader .You even go as far as to start and end you own threads (strange). Maybe you spend too much time on the road these days,if you are talking to yourself and answering they say that's how it all starts.All I tried to do here was point some people in the direction of a "cheap" camera and you gotta put your two cents in. I really don't think I do that to much of anyone on here let alone you. Honestly, I have tried and tried to be nice to you and will continue to do so .I don't dislike you at all. I really feel for you and your actions at times and just don't understand it .If I did not like you or was not personable I would not of recomended your operation to the Seminoles instead of picking up the work for myself. What is really the kicker for me with you is you make streaming a foot race .Yes it's good to have nice quality streams and be on top of technology ,but what used to be great about it was people did it for the love of it ....some looked good some looked bad ,but hey , everyone doing it was having fun .....it was not a foot race to see who could be the best at it or make the most $$ .SDE gets my vote on quality and character , he is very quiet about it but has slowly improved over time .It just seems like whenever there is chance for you to be heard or put in the spot light you jump up for the dance.Well be careful my friend the sun don't shine on the same dogs rear end all day ....the earth moves. What is hip today ,tomorrow may be passe.