Yup.
Very few of us get to make the rules that the rest have to play by. Fortunately, the US Open Pool tournament has corrected that issue. The past is the past, for better and for worse. I'm simply glad it's really "open" now.
Women at this year's U.S. Open...surprised.
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Yup.
Very few of us get to make the rules that the rest have to play by. Fortunately, the US Open Pool tournament has corrected that issue. The past is the past, for better and for worse. I'm simply glad it's really "open" now.
i always thought it meant that it was open to Amateur and professionals. i know there are a,b and c only tournaments and i figured open meant it's open to whoever wants to play
I think you are right with this and that is why it would have not been an issue if it was called the US MENS open and not the US open. That is why the ladies have an open too and men cant play because they aren't ladies.
It is definitely not the case with the golf tournament. First off, you basically have to be a scratch golfer to even enter one of the qualifying tournaments (1.4 or better index). And even then, there are only so many designated local qualifying tournaments for a chance to advance to regional qualifying. The fields fill up so you could get shut out even if you are eligible to enter. And there are only a few qualifying spots to the actual tournament since most of the field qualifies through exemptions of one sort or another rather than actually competing in qualifying events. I can understand it too because with golf if was really open to anyone to qualify, the number of people who would enter would be unmanageable. They would never get the tournament over with.
So....are you saying all the men who finished lower than the women should also never show up again? Never be allowed to play with the real men? Maybe they should put on dresses?
Why is it that in order for the women to get some peoples respect they MUST be able to kick the crap out of Efren in the finals....every single time........ or else they just don't belong.
According to Barry Behrman, the promoter of the US Open, it IS (or was) the "Men's" US Open.
http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=7432
But why wasnt it call that then? Every year I look up, it just calls it an open, not a mens open. Could someone maybe post a link or something. Why did they change it? SO THIS IS THE FIRST ANNUAL US OPEN!! Not the 35th used to be mens open that was never called the mens open.
I liked seeing the women play. But i wish all the top females could have made it. Jasmin, kelly fisher so on and so on. Most of them didnt play beacause of the womens world 10ball championship.
You can do what ever you want. I deal with this subject alot. I will probably not move on from it. Sorry!
I believe that is because they used to run the men's and women's event simultaneously. They were essentially the same event with a men's and women's division.
Because people like yourself kept complaining about it and because they probably needed some more entries to get a full field.
Sure, whatever you want to call it. Arguing over semantics is childish.
You are arguing to change the name of an event that has traditionally and rightfully (there was an equivalent women's tournament) been a "Men's" tournament for 3 decades. With or without the name change, it is still the same tournament. Sounds like semantics to me.
OK..... look, im beating a dead horse. got it. and childish. My point: Why would they have a rule that you had to be a man to compete in this event for that many years? Just why? And when the answer is sexist and disgusitng just say : sorry, we were not good people. we made a mistake and now that we want more entries and more money for the event, we will let you play. Just a sorry. thats all.
Its kinda a bit of sarcasm to drive a point about principal and pool players playing pool. sorry to confuse you although I may actually argue to do just this. I think semantics maybe be important. 2nd annual us open 9 ball 2011.
It took us till 2010 to do this? I'm sure not all the top ladies would have ended up dead last last year.
Replace the word man for woman and you can make the same exact argument for the women's US Open.
Barry Behrman has on several occasions specifically pointed out that the reason women couldn't compete in the men's event before now was because there was an equivalent women's event. If there were no women's US Open, the women would have been allowed to play much earlier.
...please believe me when I tell you, the Ladies wanted their own purse to compete for and were very happy that the men were competing in their division back in the late 80's and into early 91 or whatever.
From the women that I talked with this year, they were happy Barry chose to invite them back and pay the entry for the past winners, like Jo Ann Mason-Parker whom we haven't seen for awhile. By the way, you are aware that any WPBA pro has to be given permission to compete in a men's tournament aren't you?
In that case, I vote to change the "Women's US Open 9 ball" to the "Women's US Not Really Open 9 ball"
well, what do you want?
So what is it you want?
I think a part of your argument has a huge fall out.
As you put it, this is the first EVER 'true' us open, so then, why did 1 of the top female players show when all of them could have? They could have chosen to play in this 'open' event, but they played in the 'womens open' event because they liked their chances of making money, so that is to say; they liked their chances against a weaker field. The other reason could be their sponsors MADE them go to the 'womens' event, which is in my opinion, sexist and not right.
If you want to throw the sexist word around, it can work both ways. I think trying to single out Barry, who has the longest running tournament unless I am mistaken (which is entirely possible) I think you should rally women promoters to host 'true open' events and see where that gets you.
I personally would love to see xtp vs. Mika or gyk vs. Shane in the money rounds or on the bubble. But I don't think it will happen, partly because not many ppl like the ladies chances.
I don't mean to be offensive to anyone, this is just what I see out of the situation.
So what is it you want?
I think a part of your argument has a huge fall out.
As you put it, this is the first EVER 'true' us open, so then, why did 1 of the top female players show when all of them could have? They could have chosen to play in this 'open' event, but they played in the 'womens open' event because they liked their chances of making money, so that is to say; they liked their chances against a weaker field. The other reason could be their sponsors MADE them go to the 'womens' event, which is in my opinion, sexist and not right.
If you want to throw the sexist word around, it can work both ways. I think trying to single out Barry, who has the longest running tournament unless I am mistaken (which is entirely possible) I think you should rally women promoters to host 'true open' events and see where that gets you.
I personally would love to see xtp vs. Mika or gyk vs. Shane in the money rounds or on the bubble. But I don't think it will happen, partly because not many ppl like the ladies chances.
I don't mean to be offensive to anyone, this is just what I see out of the situation.