Hi my name is Chris and new to this forum, lots of good info here! Well my question is what kind of practice drills do the pro's do?? I find my self just making up stuff but im not sure if its helping or not. I love to shoot i have a bar table and a 9 footer that i shoot on for several hours a night. Any ideas on this would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Are you a pro? If not I wouldn't worry about what drills they use.
Let's find out what your problems are and put drills to them.
How are your pre-shot routines?
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No not no pro, lol. Pre-shot routines??? I play 9ball for fun and practice, i try not to bank to often but when i need to its not good, so i would say i need something to help with my banks and cue ball control and what should i be doing for my pre-shot routines?? Thanks!
In order to know what drills you should be doing, you need to determine what you are trying to accomplish.
In pool school, we have 7 drills we use with every student. Each drill is designed to address a specific issue. And believe it or not, none of the drills are "ball pocketing" drills.
We teach students how to develop the things that happen behind the cue stick. When you get that part right, good things start to happen in front of the cue stick.
Wax on....wax off.
Paint fence!!
Steve
In pool school, we have 7 drills we use with every student. Each drill is designed to address a specific issue. And believe it or not, none of the drills are "ball pocketing" drills.
We teach students how to develop the things that happen behind the cue stick. When you get that part right, good things start to happen in front of the cue stick.
Wax on....wax off.
Paint fence!!
Steve
So these 7 drills are they behind the cue stick or in front? Im pritty confident that i am good with behind the stick, but i would be interested in these drills....
these guys here know what they are talking about, wish I had them 25 years ago, I'd be a lot stronger player than I am today if I did thats for sure.
to answere your question,I know a pile of pros and what they do. Some play 14.1(straight pool), others practice shots they miss the most often. Some shoot drills like the guys here are talking about, or any of the 3 things I just mentioned.
I missed a ball once that cost me $100, so fo a week I shot it 100 times a day from both sides. I got to the point I didnt miss it very often-it was a kinda hard shot, I still to this day practice that shot once a week and if I like what I see I move on, if I dont i stick with it.
where the balls are randomly spread on the box is damn near irrelevant for training and practicing in the proper sence of the word. And isnt a good start to practicing to get better. What counts is how do line up, hold the cue, breath, look at the balls, which ball do you look at last, haw many warm up strokes do you take, do you stay down after the shot, or flip open your bridge hand after pulling the trigger(a bad habit I have when I'm not playing daily). When it comes down to it the shot selection of which balls when practicing is a very very small% of whats really going on. When you can do all the stuff I mentioned plus alot more things, then all the shots should go because you have built a solid base of fundmentals. With those fundmentals the balls will make their way into the hole alot more often than if you just try and replicate what I do or what a pro does. you have to start at square one-we all did. Some with talent become pro's, others with no talent often are smarter than some pro's because it came so hard for them. Its all in the basic fundmentals and these guys here know their shit to get you from point A---------->B faster than if you go practice like Efren does.
you can take that info to the bank,
I dont think any of these top instructors are gonna argue much with what I just said, and if they do I'd love to hear it-i might just learn something and thats awalys a good thing.
to answere your question,I know a pile of pros and what they do. Some play 14.1(straight pool), others practice shots they miss the most often. Some shoot drills like the guys here are talking about, or any of the 3 things I just mentioned.
I missed a ball once that cost me $100, so fo a week I shot it 100 times a day from both sides. I got to the point I didnt miss it very often-it was a kinda hard shot, I still to this day practice that shot once a week and if I like what I see I move on, if I dont i stick with it.
where the balls are randomly spread on the box is damn near irrelevant for training and practicing in the proper sence of the word. And isnt a good start to practicing to get better. What counts is how do line up, hold the cue, breath, look at the balls, which ball do you look at last, haw many warm up strokes do you take, do you stay down after the shot, or flip open your bridge hand after pulling the trigger(a bad habit I have when I'm not playing daily). When it comes down to it the shot selection of which balls when practicing is a very very small% of whats really going on. When you can do all the stuff I mentioned plus alot more things, then all the shots should go because you have built a solid base of fundmentals. With those fundmentals the balls will make their way into the hole alot more often than if you just try and replicate what I do or what a pro does. you have to start at square one-we all did. Some with talent become pro's, others with no talent often are smarter than some pro's because it came so hard for them. Its all in the basic fundmentals and these guys here know their shit to get you from point A---------->B faster than if you go practice like Efren does.
you can take that info to the bank,
I dont think any of these top instructors are gonna argue much with what I just said, and if they do I'd love to hear it-i might just learn something and thats awalys a good thing.
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Great advise, thank you.
If you want to practice like the pros, practice racking. :grin-square:
Listen to these guys and do drills designed to improve on your weaknesses.
Listen to these guys and do drills designed to improve on your weaknesses.
i'm glad to help, but i'm a player NOT a instructor so listen to them over me. I learned the long hard way and i'm still not a champion-not even close. but I am a solid player. I would be a A+ player if I had proper instruction when I was 13 years old. I learned a pile of bad habits that to this day still pop up 25-30 years later,
one more piece of advice(and I will argue this one) "You cant train in, what God left out". every player has their limit to just how good they become no matter what you do. If that wasnt the case the guy who worked on his game the hardest would be the best-and I know champions who hardly ever play/practice. Others have to play 5-8 hours a day or they dont play to their potential. it varies from player to player.
Also after you get what the se instructors say to do working pretty good you kinda need to make a decision are you a league player, tournament player or gambler. I'm all about action I like to bet and the more I bet the better I play, I fall into a zone with a big bet-however recently i been in a big slump. but I know deep in my heart i'm a $$$ player. I live in Vegas and dont go to casino's. I like pool action.
Time is your friend in pool, and pay these guys what they charge-in the long run ut will save you many times more than they cost, its a labor of love for them, and no i'm not a salesman on commission. I just wish I had the chance to work with a instructor, I might play stronger than some instructors-i dont know, maybe not. And that dosent matter I have seen top pro's give the worst lessions ever, I have had lessions from top pro's that were priceless.
So stick with the guys here that responded to your post. I'm just commentary not a teacher.
I agree with ya, i like money sets also but i only do $50 set nothing to over the top just enouph to make me try my best and not fool around, I am 27 and have been playing for about 7 years now never took any lession just cause i never knew where to go. I was a 6 in apa 8ball and tied for 17th out in vegas for single nationals this past april, so now im thinking if i got some lessions or the right guidance i figured it could only help.
It sounds like you are already a fairly good player. Here's a few tidbits of advice i have gleamed from various instructors over the years. In no particular order:
1) Bert Kinister's 60 Minute Workout Tape For 8/9 Ball - 1994.
2) You need a repeating straight stroke
3) Contacting the cueball at the EXACT spot is vital
4) You have to master your cue before you can pocket balls and have good cueball control.
Just my $.02.
Mike
1) Bert Kinister's 60 Minute Workout Tape For 8/9 Ball - 1994.
2) You need a repeating straight stroke
3) Contacting the cueball at the EXACT spot is vital
4) You have to master your cue before you can pocket balls and have good cueball control.
Just my $.02.
Mike
Like pooltcher said, let us know your location. We have instructors nationwide who can help you figure out how to achieve the consistency you're looking for. There are other instructors, like myself, who travel the entire country teaching. I'm on a 5 week road trip now, that will take me through TX, NM, AZ, CA, NV, UT, WY, MT, ID, WA, SD, MN, WI, IL and MI.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
tt97cobra...Just FYI, I will be coming through Peoria Friday evening. If you're interested, PM me your name and phone number, and let's talk.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Drills
Best bet is taking lessons from a certified instructor. He will line you out to the point of giving you homework! Books. My fav is The Science of Pocket Billiards by Jack Kohler. Begin playing one pocket. One pocket will teach how to move cue in small areas. My fav drill is put all 15 balls in large circle in middle of table. All balls clear to go.take ball in hand and begin pocketing balls,but never take cue to a rail!
Best bet is taking lessons from a certified instructor. He will line you out to the point of giving you homework! Books. My fav is The Science of Pocket Billiards by Jack Kohler. Begin playing one pocket. One pocket will teach how to move cue in small areas. My fav drill is put all 15 balls in large circle in middle of table. All balls clear to go.take ball in hand and begin pocketing balls,but never take cue to a rail!