Playing 10-ball. Your opponent scratched on the break. This is the first rack of a tournament hot seat match.
What would you do here?
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Yes, the 4 to the 5 to the 6 is definitely the key to running this rack. This is actually the first rack of Charlie Bryant vs. Doug Young from the tournament at Bogies. Charlie fails to negotiate the 4-5-6.
Aaron
Did he miscue due to lack of chalk? :wink:
I like Neil's first shot to lessen the difficulty of the 5 to the 6. Good call Neil. No way I'm going for a 3 foul attempt on this rack. Did ChalkBilly nudge the 8 as Neil would?
KK9 <-- couldn't resist some ribbing
Dammit, Aaron. That is too many balls.
1 into bottom L corner. Stop
2 into top R corner. Roll into rail L side of 10, inside kitchen.
3 into bottom R corner. Low R spin to stop in center of table.
4 into top L corner. Close eyes and try to eithe hit 8 or pass between 5/ rail, depending on what looks better. Cross fingers too.
5 into top L (or bottom L) pocket. CB must go to other side rail, or you are banking 6.
The bank is not a horrible shot. A speed bump.
7 depends on the 6, but one is looking good from here.
1 into bottom L corner. Stop
2 into top R corner. Roll into rail L side of 10, inside kitchen.
3 into bottom R corner. Low R spin to stop in center of table.
4 into top L corner. Close eyes and try to eithe hit 8 or pass between 5/ rail, depending on what looks better. Cross fingers too.
5 into top L (or bottom L) pocket. CB must go to other side rail, or you are banking 6.
The bank is not a horrible shot. A speed bump.
7 depends on the 6, but one is looking good from here.
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No, Charlie didn't try to nudge anything. He ended up nearly straight on the 4, drew two rails (long rail, long rail) for pos on the 5, but got straight again. Then he tried to power draw again to get to the 6, but dogged the 5 and scratched.
Then he made off with Doug's chalk.
Aaron
Stop stealing my moves.
It does bother me a bit that so many people learn the secerets for free.
I was very surprised at what he did. He had some safety options, and could have easily drawn back a bit and banked the 6 cross-side.
Aaron
Before I saw Neil's "nudge move" my first inclination was set up for the 6 cross side, knowing the 8 makes it a little bigger pocket.
This was the pattern I saw. Attempting to pass b/w the 5 and rail. If you get by it, you will have a natural angle to float over for the 6, and even if you bump it, you may still have a shot on it in the bottom left pocket or a good safety opportunity. As long as you don't get crazy with the speed, you'll probably be ok.
Aaron
I'll play devils advocate. I am assuming the 1 sneaks past the 8 in the side? If you do the shot Neil mentions you better be very careful on two things (speed and your angle of the bump on the 8). You can get in a lot of trouble if you don't nudge the 8 correctly which entails both the speed and angle. Neil's goal is to bump the 8 closer to the side pocket however you don't want it to bump by the rail close to the side by the 10 which might make for a difficult shot on either the 8 in the opposite corner or the short rack.
If the shooter doesn't like that approach the leave on the 4 will determine what shot he shoots. He can either 1. make the 4 in the corner setting up a safety on the 5 depending on his leave, 2. cut the 4 thin and using speed either bump into 5 or squeeze behind the 5. If you don't like the bump ball method (not high percentage to get a good leave/bump) then option 1 might be a good bet. Since the 5 is fairly close to the 8 a safety might not be too hard to do here.
If the shooter doesn't like that approach the leave on the 4 will determine what shot he shoots. He can either 1. make the 4 in the corner setting up a safety on the 5 depending on his leave, 2. cut the 4 thin and using speed either bump into 5 or squeeze behind the 5. If you don't like the bump ball method (not high percentage to get a good leave/bump) then option 1 might be a good bet. Since the 5 is fairly close to the 8 a safety might not be too hard to do here.
Yes, the 1 does pass in the side. That was Charlie's first shot.
I hear you on bumping the 8. I normally try to not bump anything if I don't have to, but in this case I don't necessarily disagree with it, because you will probably still have plenty of good options if it does go to a bad spot.
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1 in the corner, draw cue ball above side pocket.
2 in side.
3 in corner, leave an angle on the 4.
4 in corner, take your pick. 5-10 combo or use high outside to bump the 8 ball.
There is the possibility of a bad roll bumping the 8 but if you bump it softly you should be ok. After that, assuming you get an angle on the 5, the rack is open.
The 5-10 looks like a pretty easy combo, I would probably go for that.
2 in side.
3 in corner, leave an angle on the 4.
4 in corner, take your pick. 5-10 combo or use high outside to bump the 8 ball.
There is the possibility of a bad roll bumping the 8 but if you bump it softly you should be ok. After that, assuming you get an angle on the 5, the rack is open.
The 5-10 looks like a pretty easy combo, I would probably go for that.
Then why in the World would you get all those other balls off the table? The 1-10 combo is the better shot, between those 2.
Safety...
IMO i would try to put him on tilt... I'd thin the one so the cue goes down table off the short rail and comes up safe behing the ten... But I'm just a guppy, So what the hell do i know...
Nick,
IMO i would try to put him on tilt... I'd thin the one so the cue goes down table off the short rail and comes up safe behing the ten... But I'm just a guppy, So what the hell do i know...
Nick,
:sorry: