I owe spidey a great deal . And for me to post his information would
be ............. It is not going to happen. After ALL is released I
will help some people. It is not mine to give away.
Thanks
Petey
Why CTE is silly
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I owe spidey a great deal . And for me to post his information would
be ............. It is not going to happen. After ALL is released I
will help some people. It is not mine to give away.
Thanks
Petey
I am sick and tired of my DVD project being attacked. I feel as though attempts are being made to humiliate me and what I am going to present.
If I were a scamster and had it coming, then so be it.....but I am not and my record speaks for itself.
Stan Shuffett
Do you mean 45 degrees or 30 degrees? [A half-ball shot creates about a 30-degree cut, not 45 degrees.]
How do you know the intended cut is 45 degrees (or 30 degrees)?
This whole thread has been a playground for malicious and personal attacks
Stan is one of the most respected and sought after instructors in the
states . THAT IS A FACT
Stan is one of the most respected and sought after instructors in the
states . THAT IS A FACT
Stan,
When date do you expect to starting shipping the DVD to customers?
Thanks,
Dave
Please Stan don't give up on the DVD. I'm standing here in line waiting for the door to open.
I guess it really doesn't take an imaginative mind to play these games. Thats a good thing cause I don't have one either. But........
Gee wiz we need to settle this.
Stan,
I think you have a right to feel the way you do. Take a look at it a different way though, and realize WHO is doing the attacks.
The ones who are loudest don't understand or don't know how to do something, so they attack it.
Instead of saying that it doesn't work for THEM, they throw out a general "it can't work" and anyone whe says it does is belittled and insulted.
They are deluded to the point that they think most people care about their negative crap.
I was a long haul trucker for 29 years, and we used to call people like that "CB Rambos". They would talk tough on the CB radio,
but wouldn't say a word face to face because they realized they would be talked to "by hand" if they said the same things in person.
Do you really care what people like that think or say? They hide behind their forum nicknames and nip like irritating Chihuahuas.
I think most of us can make a choice between who have credibility on this forum and those who only have something negative to say
about anything they don't understand.
I don't know how CTE works, or even IF it works, but I know who I trust and their views that I respect.
I look forward to trying to learn it, but if I'm not able to, then I won't say the system doesn't work, only that it doesn't work for me.
Hell, in my younger years I took lessons and tried to learn to play the guitar (to impress the chicks),
but could never get the hang of it. How stupid would I be to say that the guitar is impossible to play for everybody?
Many more players are "for you" than the few that are running CTE down.
You've put your money, time, and reputation on the line, and I, for one, appreciate it.
Looking forward to the DVD.
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I have been on fast-forward since last May/June to get this info out. I am in the final stages of editing and hopefully the DVD can be finished soon. I am not in control of this phase, timewise. In a few weeks the DVD will be available.
Rock on Stan and just know, there are far more that support your work than those that detract.
Koop - buying a DVD, for sure.
I just got back from one day with Stan, and the information he will show is the real deal. All the non believers need to go and get a lesson.
Thanks for your hospitality Stan.
Thanks for your hospitality Stan.
I think it's CTE's "defenders" who are causing the most damage to CTE's image - people who say they know CTE but can't seem to say anything sensible about how it works.
If you're saying all these nonsensical statements about CTE are true, then I guess you should be worried about the reception your DVD is going to get. But if your system has not been accurately represented here, then maybe it's the self-styled CTE "experts" here who are your problem.
pj
chgo
You do to much grouping . And the claim I made that you dont agree with
is that CTE is a center pocket system . And I dont use it to hit a certain spot on the rail . Is this true ? As I have ask you before ,Dont group me with ALL the defenders and claims
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OK I dug up my claims . Here they are again . Am not trying to start with lou again. Just quoting MY claims.
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Well.....thanks?
You need to better note that what I "instigate" is critical review of the method of CTE and the defenses of CTE. In this thread that's all I care about, and I've carried out to THE END--in order, IF POSSIBLE, to provoke SOME SORT of substantial response from CTE users that might be useful to THEIR SIDE, i.e., that could possibly be a REAL defense of CTE.
At the moment, things are VERY CLEAR: The method of CTE does not precisely consider the direction the OB must take to go to the pocket. I've given MANY opportunities to both Spidey and Stan to AT LEAST say: "Yes, the method involves a direct calculation of the path the OB must take to get to the pocket--but we prefer not to divulge the particulars right now."
But they have not. They've chosen to keep the issue vague--as vague AS POSSIBLE.
The only reasonable conclusion is that CTE does NOT produce by its methods a solution to the problem of WHERE the OB must go in order to get to the pocket. Simply, without that, CTE is NOT an "aiming method," quite obviously, because it doesn't AIM AT ANYTHING.
I don't think it's too early to state that FORCEFULLY. (unless, Stan, Spidey, and others have an explicit intention of BEGUILING over even the OUTLINE of how CTE "works." Nothing they have said suggests they're up to THAT kind of game.)
btw: "instigator" and "who started it" in this context mean essentially the same thing.
What's your real name?
CTE defenders are just fine.....they are light years ahead of the critics that are not using their eyes and body to explore the topic.
Hold it right there, Stan. NOTHING in my above post was an attack on your DVD project. NOTHING!
If you're confused about my post, and what it was referring to, it was a response to someone saying that "there are people who know what CTE is." That post was meant to show that CTE has had a CONFUSED HISTORY. WOW!, There's simply no WAY to deny that fact: People have argued for FIFTEEN YEARS even over just exactly what CTE IS!!! In particular, the reference to your "revelation five months ago" (which I think was made in May) was offered in order to show that what CTE is has obviously been EVOLVING almost up to the present.
And furthermore, I think that gives me the right to call it "baloney:" If people have said all along it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it has also gotten continuous OVERHAULS throughout the period, because earlier versions were "wrong," then that means the people who said it was great INITIALLY (at least) were full of baloney. If everybody says CTE is great, and CTE turns out to be many CONFLICTING things (like based on a few cut fractions, or NOT based on a few cut fractions), then, logically, at least SOMEBODY is full of baloney.
I'll repeat: I DO NOT WISH TO ATTACK YOUR DVD PROJECT. POSITIVELY NOT! I look upon it as something POSITIVE, because it should, hopefully clear up any vagueness about what CTE IS--at least yours and Spidey's version of what it is.
I DO wish to attack CTE--as much of it for which I can feel confident about the principles, at least. I DO wish to attack some of the poor defenses that have been raised of criticisms of CTE. But I'll repeat again: I POSITIVELY DO NOT WISH TO ATTACK anyone's attempt to explain CTE or how it can be used. That would just be crazy!
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