Congratulations on buying Stan's DVD, I applaud you and hope I didn't hit you on the head. Is this an urban myth, when a bird shits on you it means you'll have good luck. Good luck to you sean.
CTE/ PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett
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Cookieman, sfleinen means you. crow. plonk.
I doubt there will be any more chapters of CTE after PRO-ONE, but the learning process with pool in general will go on forever.
Are you just now catching on to that? He has officially become my CTE stalker.
Dave,
This thread is about my experience with CTE/PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett.
This was supposed to be a simple expression of what I experienced.
While there were many people who appreciated me sharing my experience, others (THE SAME OLD NAYSAYERS) couldn't help themselves but to jump on a positive thread about a positive experience and try to beat it into the ground.
It's the same old routine. NAYSAYERS Knock CTE. NAYSAYERS Knock CTE users.
The Tag Team of NAYSAYER CTE KNOCKERS can't help themselves. If they see anything about CTE they have to say something negative.
Even with gmt banned, the naysayers are holding their own fighting the negative fight, slinging mud whenever and at whomever they can.
There's not going to be any sharing of specific information about CTE/Pro One except by Stan Shuffett and his upcoming video, at least as far as I am concerned.
I want to see the man TRY to recoup his large expenditures for this project before everyone starts discussing what he has in his video.
On caveat for the naysayers: The video will give you ample room to save face. The video isn't designed to make you look bad. The video isn't about what side of the fence you are on with CTE/Pro One. Stan's video will simply describe the aiming system in detail. There will be some who will "get it" and others who "won't" get it.
While the naysayers have described CTE as silly, bullshit, poppycock, delusional and all other kinds of negative names, Stan's video will give them an opportunity to eat a lot of crow but if I know my naysayers, they will tenaciously hold onto any little naysaying perspective that they can, in hopes that they will be able to hold their head high and say, "I told you so".
Me, I don't give a flipping bird what anyone has to say about CTE/Pro One unless they are violating forum rules or trying to begrudge my friend Stan Shuffett from recouping his expenses from a costly video production. I'm just sharing my experience with CTE/Pro One and Stan Shuffett.
It really doesn't matter to me how it works or why it works, except that it works. Like most aiming systems, it will work better for some and not so good for others. For me, so far, it is overall, A POSTIVE EXPERIENCE.
At the moment I'm not trying to teach the world how CTE/Pro One works and I will continue to say that it is WORTHWHILE LEARNING but you know me, I even enjoyed learning how to use the peace sign to play better pool.
This is just another positive thread about a pool experience that NAYSAYERS are trying to poop on just to make their point, whatever that is.
The naysayers most often are well educated people but they make themselves look awful stupid when they are trying to debunk and discuss something that they don't have the correct information on it in the first place. THIS IS A FACT and it is beyond my understanding how any intelligent person can come on this forum, not knowing CTE/Pro One and ATTEMPT to make arguments about how it doesn't work, how it is silly, how the users are delusional, how the math doesn't work and a hundred other negative things about it.
There will be a few bones for the naysayers to gnaw on after the video comes out and until then, how can they make such ridiculous statements about something they have never seen.
I do like the way CTE has evolved over the last dozen years. At one time the naysayers said "It doesn't work." Now at least a few of them say, "well it does work, but not like some of the users think it does".
Only time will tell if the masses embrace CTE/Pro One. If they do, Hal Houle may just make it into the Hall of Fame. If Hal Houle makes it into the HOF, Stan Shuffett will be right behind him as Stan has refined and defined CTE in this video.
For now, the naysayers should just pack up their slide rules, ther calculators and their theories and just go home, at least as far as CTE/Pro One is concerned.
Joey -
This kind of negativity --grouping people together and calling them the "NAYSAYERS" --referring to NAYSAYER TAG TEAMS and the like-- categorizing a group of people together and telling them to pack up their slide rules and go home-- is divisive.
So your thinking that just referencing the pocket is not good enough to play pool effectively. I have to think your wrong on that.
That's obviously ridiculous. If nobody cared about how it works every thread about it would be a few posts rather than several hundred or a few thousand.
Oh, so by "everyone" you mean just you and some other CTE users. I guess you're the ones on this forum who get to choose what's OK to talk about, huh? So why do you care if some of us want to talk about how it works?
I thought you didn't care about that.
pj
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What does "referencing the pocket" mean?
pj <- sorry to get all "scientific" on you
chgo
It means exactly what we have been saying, we reference the pocket in its relationship to the shot. It helps us decide thick or thin.
Science is just a thing, to some its a big thing, others its a small thing. In the end its just a thing.
If I see the DVD (I doubt that I'll spend $40 for the privilege) I'll be able to tell right away, without any math, if it describes systematic steps to any specific aiming alignments (other than a half ball cut) that don't require the player to complete by feel. Nothing we've heard so far does even that much.
Then, if it at least does that, it should be easy to see (maybe with some simple math) what percentage of shots can be made without player completion by feel and how much feel is needed.
pj
chgo
"CTE stalker." That's very funny. Especially when it's not even CTE that's buggin' me. Not even close! Sheesh, if that were the case, why would I "waste $40" on Stan's DVD, or make posts like this:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=2678099&post2678099
No, the issue is swatting away hecklers that have nothing of value to add to threads, but instead rain poop down, making the thread even worse, and then have the gall to complain about why CTE is a picked-on stepchild. Hand-thrown double-aught buckshot seems not to be working. Need to find something else... (as he eyes the can of pepper spray on the wall sconce near the front door...)
-Sean
You haven't been saying anything exactly.
For instance, that doesn't mean anything.
OK, that might mean something. So "referencing the pocket" only means deciding whether the cut is thicker than half ball or thinner than half ball?
Whatever that means.
And, by the way, the question isn't whether "referencing the pocket" is "good enough to play pool effectively". The question is whether "referencing the pocket" is specific enough to be part of a non-feel aiming system.
pj
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Ok. but for the record you said half ball I just said thick or thin.
Is "referencing the pocket" specific enough to be part of a non-feel system in your opinion?
good luck sean!!!!!
Ok, I doubt you'll spend the forty dollars either, but i think you will see the DVD. I think you've heard that it does that you just don't quite understand.
Thinking the dvd will really open your eyes if you allow your mind to be opened.
So what does "thick or thin" mean?
If "thick or thin" includes all shots, and if "referencing the pocket" just means deciding between the two, then obviously not.
If you never saw the pocket but I told you it was a cut to the right, would that be enough for you to make it? Obviously not. How much more information do you need? How about if I told you it was a "thick" cut to the right? Could you make it then? Isn't that all the information you say you're getting from "referencing the pocket"?
pj
chgo
Stan's dvd can now be order on his web site
Stan's CTE/PRO ONE DVD can now be ordered on his web site, justcueit.com.
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Stan's CTE/PRO ONE DVD can now be ordered on his web site, justcueit.com.
Be sure to click on the drop down bar and indicate your location.
Now if i was to say, yes that is all the info i needed to make that shot, would you believe me?
Once I see a definitive description of it I won't need an open mind to see if CTE involves feel or not, any more than I need an open mind to see whether it's raining or not. It either is or it isn't and it will be simple to see which. I won't have to decide whether or not I want to believe it - it's a simple question of obvious fact.
The only thing that makes it even a little controversial is that so far we're speculating without any facts - except the fact that nobody seems able to describe it, which argues strongly for (but doesn't yet prove conclusively) the involvement of feel.
pj
chgo
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