Why be so coy? Why not just say what "thick or thin" means? Why not just say whether or not you think it's all you need? Sounds like you just want to play word games.
Play with somebody else.
pj
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CTE/ PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett
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Play with somebody else.
pj
chgo
I admit I am a results minded kinda guy and could not care less about the Science behind CTE.
I am still waiting for your answer to my question.
You have stated repeatedly that CTE does not work, therefore answer me this. If CTE does not work please explain to me how Landon Shuffett and Stevie Moore preform at a very high level using CTE?
From what I can tell there is only two valid answers to that question.
1. CTE works
2. Stevie & Landon are scammers
I await your answer with great anticipation.
You are asking what a thick cut and a thin cut is?
When you shoot cte you will have a options. lets say you are shooting down table, you will have an option of making the ball with a thin cut in one corner and you will have an option of a thick cut to the other corner. You will also have options to bank but lets not go there.
Yes i could make the shot you are talking about.
They're the people who believe that if CTE works without feel then that fact can be easily demonstrated. Is that what you mean by "naysayers"?
And 100% of the CTE users seem to believe CTE does work without feel, but can't demonstrate that. Do we call them yeasayers? Don't these names just obscure what people are really saying?
That isn't what electricity is "like". That's what most people who use it are like. Without people who care how electricity works we wouldn't have it at all and you wouldn't be learning things on the internet.
Glad to give you some new experiences. Hooray for the internet and the people who care how it works. But who says "scientists" aren't results oriented? Why do you think we care how things work? So we can make them work better.
It's not something you have to admit. There's nothing wrong with it. Just as there's nothing wrong with being interested in how things work. Who knows, we might even do something useful with the information, like make them work better or for more people.
I have not stated that, so your question must be meant for somebody else.
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OK, thanks for the clearer answer. It's not clear enough to allow me to say for sure, but I don't think you can make the shot without more information than you're describing. And from what I can tell, that additional information comes from you, not the system - I think it's your experience making shots that fills in the blanks that the system leaves for you.
So we (probably) disagree. No problem.
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chgo
P.S. Sorry, I thought you were cookie man in your earlier reply - now I see that was your first post in this exchange, so you weren't avoiding the questions.
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I see only 15 pages on this thread
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But I'm afraid it doesn't matter anymore, because no matter what the method is, it is not CTE. Because CTE works and the method doesn't.
Yes.
How do you do it?
The only thing his videos prove is that he can pot balls fairly well.
I have a better idea. Could you program a robot to pot balls using CTE?
Mike,
To my knowledge,
You haven't been one of the tag team jackals, jumping on threads that haven't anything to do with how CTE/Pro One works just to denigrate the people who use CTE Pro One or the people who teach it, etc.
"Divisve" is some people constantly making snide comments about CTE/Pro One, Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett, and other AZB CTE/Pro One users, using their ability to generate anger and animosity through one liners that sleight the character of the individuals.
I notice you often come to the defense of certain individuals when they are pounced on by others. Sometimes those individuals you come to aid do not deserve the condemnation for what they were accused of in the first place. That being said, perhaps if you truly want less divisiveness in the forum you should call off any CTE/Pro One Antagonist Jackals that are under your influence.
By the way, I am also GENUINELY disappointed with the people who use their debating skills just to belittle others, calling it "humor" or "just kidding".
When I see the antagonists stop their needling, I will stop calling people's attention to their tactics and antics.
JoeyA
If you said thick cut to the right and I did pro-one to perfection I would make the shot.
I agree except" a little controversial" might be an understatement. I think some wonder if once you decide will you admit.
1. Many of those criticized as "naysayers" acknowledge that "CTE works." But that does not mean that they believe it is geometrically sound for all shots. It may be working for some players for other reasons. PJ and Dr. Dave have spoken about this over and over.
2. Stevie Moore was a pro player and Landon Shuffett was a highly accomplished developing player long before they had ever heard of CTE/Pro-One. But they did learn it, seem to like it, and use it. They still perform at "a very high level" -- perhaps higher than, perhaps the same as, perhaps lower than if they had never learned CTE/Pro-One. I'm willing to accept that they now play better with it than they used to play without it. But that doesn't mean the method is geometrically sound, without conscious or unconscious adjustments, for all shots. It just means that it brought something to their games that they like and use.
Unfortunately, some cannot see that. It is easier for them to run around with a torch in one hand, a pitchfork in the other, and deliver their fire and brimstone rants:
They are the haters.
They are the naysayers.
They are the cancer on our group.
They are the jackals.
They are the cause of our woes.
They are the ones taking the bread from your child's mouth.
They are the ones we must banish from our community.
Lou Figueroa
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Actually demonstrating it is easy, can I still be a yeasayer?
1.They don't really admit it works as a system, they always point to other things or other reasons it helps.
2. It also doesn't mean it isn't geometrically sound and there have been testimonials as to its lack of adjustments.
Don't forget about the crow.
Lou,
It's people like YOU & GMT that make the biggest contributions to divisiveness in threads on this forum.
Your constant needling (which you call humor) is what is sickening.
You may think its funny. I do not.
This thread is supposed to be about me sharing a POSITIVE EXPERIENCE with a very fine gentleman and you and others take the opportunity to poke people until they are ready to fight back AND YOU THINK IT IS FUNNY.
Yeah, I know you don't like being called my personal stalker, but that is precisely how you are acting. If you aren't pouncing on my threads with your "sick humor" attacking me, then you are attacking others who have different opinions about CTE/Pro One.
It really is getting old.
You guys are @ssh*les! I tried to be stoic, and resist the urge to laugh, but gahdammit... BWAH HA HA HA HA!!! Dang it.
Ok, ok, I'm putting the can of pepper spray back on the wall sconce near the front door. But with the proviso that if one of you two step out of line... (ok, not you, Mike)...
-Sean
Just ordered my Pro1 dvd from www.justcueit.com - hopefully we will be able to carry it on our websites and put it in front of millions of visitors every month.
If nothing else the best "description" and "instruction" on a major CTE method will be available to everyone who wants to review it.
I am truly happy that something of Hal's has finally made it to video. Thank you Stan.
If nothing else the best "description" and "instruction" on a major CTE method will be available to everyone who wants to review it.
I am truly happy that something of Hal's has finally made it to video. Thank you Stan.
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