New Product: i4pool's SLUG DOCTOR TIGHT RACK SYSTEM

Patrick Johnson said:
My Slug Doctor arrived yesterday and I took it to the pool hall last night to try it out. The "donuts" installed quickly and easily, as advertised, and the pool hall owner had no problem with me setting it up on his table because it's obvious that they come off without hassle (in fact, we took it off after our match - took maybe fifteen seconds).

The rack worked perfectly for all games: 9-ball, 10-ball and full racks were no problem - even though the last 4 balls of a full rack have no donuts to rest in, it's easy to snug them up against the other balls that do.

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PJ- Wow! Thank you so much for the write-up and sharing your experience with the SD. I'm very happy that you decided to give it a try.
May I ask what you found to be interesting and educational?

-Abe

sfleinen said:
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The only thing that I can think of to explain the situation that Pat encountered, is that there's a difference between Arco and Avery labels. Like I mentioned all along, I'd used Arco labels for this task. Arco makes the really thin acetate donuts just like Avery, and I *did* see that the labels were slightly intrusive to a slow-rolling ball.

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Anyway, thanks for the report, Pat! I'm ordering my Slug Doctor from Abe today, and will try this on worsted cloth.

-Sean
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Sean- There could very well be a difference between the two brands. The Avery brand labels measure 0.06mm thick. Not sure the Arco brand.
Thank you for the order. :)

-Abe

Robert Raiford said:
I do the same thing. Why go to the hassle of manually placing balls individually when the rack gets you there in 2 seconds?


Robert
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Hi Robert- Very cool to hear that the SD works well even with a rack. I hope everything went smoothly with set-up and use. Thank you again. :)

-Abe

8ballEinstein said:
Abe, I'm glad your product is catching on. It is the next level in the development of racking systems and has my full endorsement (of course that may not mean much since I'm a nobody in the pool world, but hey, at the very least I'm a legend in my own mind). :smile:
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8ballEinstein- Those are some very encouraging words coming from a legend. ;) Thank you. :)

-Abe
 
Avery labels

shinobi said:
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It sounded like someone earlier in this thread had indicated that these spots were used in a tournament or tournaments with great success. But now I'm not clear whether it was the Avery labels or the "real" rack spots product. Can anyone clarify?
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Hi shinobi- To answer your question, yes they were Avery labels applied with the Slug-Doctor.

jay helfert said:
We played an entire tournament (all day) using the Slug Doctor labels and there was never any problem on any shot. The balls rolled right over these labels and it was like they weren't even there. Like Abe said, less thickness than the spot!
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i4pool said:
Hi Robert- Very cool to hear that the SD works well even with a rack. I hope everything went smoothly with set-up and use. Thank you again. :)

-Abe
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Everything went smoothly...until it came time to clean the table. The owner where I setup a few tables using SD likes to clean the cloth with a wet microfiber towel in addition to vacuuming. I wasn't there to see how they did it, but apparently the labels didn't make it through the process. That eliminates the more permanent installations I was hoping for at that room, but it's still useful for templating a table before playing if the session will be long enough to justify the setup time.

Robert
 
Robert Raiford said:
Everything went smoothly...until it came time to clean the table. The owner where I setup a few tables using SD likes to clean the cloth with a wet microfiber towel in addition to vacuuming. I wasn't there to see how they did it, but apparently the labels didn't make it through the process. That eliminates the more permanent installations I was hoping for at that room, but it's still useful for templating a table before playing if the session will be long enough to justify the setup time.

Robert
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I would imagine anything on the table would be gone after a microfiber cloth and a vacuum. That's some serious dedication to table maintenance. I wish some of the owners around here cared that much. It's still not that bad a deal, though.14 cents per install for a perfect rack all night. I fully intend to bring the slug doctor with me to every bar that will let me.

Johnny
 
Robert Raiford said:
Everything went smoothly...until it came time to clean the table. The owner where I setup a few tables using SD likes to clean the cloth with a wet microfiber towel in addition to vacuuming. I wasn't there to see how they did it, but apparently the labels didn't make it through the process. That eliminates the more permanent installations I was hoping for at that room, but it's still useful for templating a table before playing if the session will be long enough to justify the setup time.

Robert
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Hi Robert- Thank you for your feedback! I'm curious to find out if the dots started to lift after the microfiber wipe or after the vacuuming? I would imagine the vacuumimg but not sure. If it's not too much trouble, could you find out from the owner or whoever did the cleaning? I'd like to see if there's anything I can do to keep this from happening.

Thank you again for trying out the Slug-Doctor!


-Abe - i4pool

JohnnyShakes said:
That's some serious dedication to table maintenance. I wish some of the owners around here cared that much.

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I agree.

Robert- Kudos to your poolroom owner. :thumbup: He/she obviously cares a lot about the room.
 
I'm glad i seen this. I cannot get anyone to match up using the magic rack, so, i guess they will have no choice if these are on every table. Payment sent.
 
Ordered a template on Tues. Dec 21. Because of the Holidays I wasn't expecting it so soon. Got it today at one o'clock in the US mail. That is fast service.

Put the reinforcements down and thought that I messed up because I couldn't get the holes to line up to install the other 4 holes for a full rack. Then I remembered the one post here showing how to do it. Post #65.

Works great. Found that it is easier to use without the aid of a rack.

Would highly recommend getting one. One of the better and cheaper pool aids that I have bought.
 
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Triangle

Suggestion.

In your video on your website, you might think of editing a portion of it and show racking the balls with a triangle in conjunction with the labels.

Just my two cents.

Thanks
 
If you're using a Delta-13, or a wooden rack (Diamond comes to mind), then you probably don't need this. If you're using a plastic rack that flexes on a table with worn out spots, then slug doctor is a godsend.

Robert Raiford said:
I do the same thing. Why go to the hassle of manually placing balls individually when the rack gets you there in 2 seconds?

Robert
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Bank2Win said:
Suggestion.

In your video on your website, you might think of editing a portion of it and show racking the balls with a triangle in conjunction with the labels.

Just my two cents.

Thanks
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Bank2Win- I like your suggestion and will try to incorporate it asap. :)
Thank you.

TheBook & ctyhntr- Thank you for giving the Slug-Doctor a chance! :thumbup: I appreciate the feedback.

exoldschoolpro- Thanks for the order. :)

Happy New Years to All! :)

Best,
Abe - i4pool
 
ctyhntr said:
If you're using a Delta-13, or a wooden rack (Diamond comes to mind), then you probably don't need this.
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That has not been my experience with either of those racks. I've found that the biggest factors in getting good racks is the condition of the cloth in the racking area (divots, rips, etc.) and how well-matched the balls are. These adhesive labels avoid the problems with cloth condition and somewhat mitigate the ball size problem by leaning balls against each other slightly. Precision racks like the Delta-13 assume perfectly-matched balls with no cloth issues.

Robert
 
I took my Slug Doctor to one of the local bars this weekend that has some pretty bad tables and installed it for a full rack. There was actually a hole in the cloth on the head spot where the slate was visible, but the reinforcement dots were able to straddle it. The balls on the table were different size, but they still racked up tight for 8 and 9 ball.8-ball required the use of the rack, but that may have been because I didn't install it perfectly in the last row. Regardless, it made the breaks much more reliable, and even at this bar, we didn't have any problems with the dots making balls roll off. Too bad my results matching up weren't as successful as my results installing the Slug Doctor.

Thanks, Abe for making it more tolerable to play at the Iron Mule.

Johnny
 
Robert Raiford said:
That has not been my experience with either of those racks. I've found that the biggest factors in getting good racks is the condition of the cloth in the racking area (divots, rips, etc.) and how well-matched the balls are. These adhesive labels avoid the problems with cloth condition and somewhat mitigate the ball size problem by leaning balls against each other slightly. Precision racks like the Delta-13 assume perfectly-matched balls with no cloth issues.

Robert
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I have a Delta 13, fairly new Aramith Pros, and brand new Simonis. Still have a problem with the balls staying frozen. Got the Slug Doctor and the balls stay. Thought it would help by also using the Delta rack with the holes in place. Doing this is hard to get the balls in the proper place for a good rack. It would seem that the balls would just fall into the holes but they don't. This may be because the holes are not set on 2 1/4 centers. I think the center to center was made less to compensate and eliminate any slop because of the hole size. This then makes a tight rack but trying to line up a whole rack of balls is not that easy. For me it is easier and faster to place the balls in one at a time.
 
Recent Giveaway Thread

Congratulations to MoNkEyNuTz and justadub for winning a FREE Slug-Doctor!

I recently had a giveaway for the Slug-Doctor and wanted to capture this feedback from that thread. Thank you ctyhntr, Robert, TheBook, and Johnny for your feedback on my product!


Post #65 by ctyhntr <---- Link

ctyhntr said:
I have the Slug-Doctor, the beauty of it is that the labels can be permanent or temporary. You can buy the refills at any Staples or office supply store.
You can do a table for pennies, or a whole poolhall for $3.

To me, its a no brainer, and works great if you're running a 9-ball tournament. Some of the ones around here invest in sets of Delta Racks and, because they can't always rely on the host room for good racks. This would work just as well.
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Hi Abe, will I be able to buy one at the VNEA tournaments in Vegas, I will be there from Spain. If not I can get one shipped to my daughter's address in Virginia, I will be going there also.
 
So exactly

how does your system help a player like me, that only plays in Pool rooms, and mostly in tournaments where you shoot on a different table each match?
I don't think the room owner would go for me putting down dots on his tables.
 
So far, I haven't been refused when I asked the room owner or the manager in a nice and respectful manner.

If you play at a poolhall that has Delta 13s, magic rack, or quality wooden racks then you may not need one of these. Some of the places I play at don't, and only have the cheap plastic bendable racks.

If you run the occasional tournament, it will cost you $3 and 1 hour of time to put this on 8 tables for the duration of the event. Whereas, it would cost $80 for magic rack ($10 each), $480 for Delta-13 regulars ($60 each), or $1080 for Delta-13 Elites ($135).
 
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Peter@CEP said:
Hi Abe, will I be able to buy one at the VNEA tournaments in Vegas, I will be there from Spain. If not I can get one shipped to my daughter's address in Virginia, I will be going there also.
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Hi Peter@CEP- Unfortunately, I'm not going to be at the VNEA tourny's in Vegas. I would be more than happy to ship to your daughter's address. I'll PM you shortly.

-Abe - i4pool
 
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