I think you're right about this. Many of the younger generation (myself included) are becoming diehard Diamond aficionados, much like many of the older players are diehards of GC's.
Diamond ProAm vs. Brunswick Gold Crown
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I think you're right about this. Many of the younger generation (myself included) are becoming diehard Diamond aficionados, much like many of the older players are diehards of GC's.
Played a bunch on both. Prefer the play and looks of the GCIV.
This statement is incorrect. Just kidding...
Yeah, I agree on the promotional graphics. OK in a pool hall I suppose, but I personally would not care for it on a table in my home. I think the GC5(TE) comes with the same giant lettering (caveat emptor, :grin
Yeah, I agree on the promotional graphics. OK in a pool hall I suppose, but I personally would not care for it on a table in my home. I think the GC5(TE) comes with the same giant lettering (caveat emptor, :grin
The worst thing is the advertising stickers on the long side: simonis, etc...
-mark
I'm surprised by that one...and I'm also a diehard Diamond fan...but the looks...
here's the leveling system on a Professional, I've built several of these and there's not alot of difference in the final product as far as the trueness of leveling.
And after the slates are glued together you can level them just as a one piece.
here's the leveling system on a Professional, I've built several of these and there's not alot of difference in the final product as far as the trueness of leveling.
And after the slates are glued together you can level them just as a one piece.
Very interesting. The screws on the side are always accessible, right? Picture is worth a thousand words..now what order does one go about leveling from each position?
Now, would be interesting to compare to the Pro-Am. Anyone have photos of the Pro-Am leveling system for 1-piece (oversized) slate?
And, to be true to the thread, the leveling system on the GC V?
Why are there eight holes in the center?
The ProAm's have the same leveling system, in fact...the leveling system from the ProAm was adapted to fit the Professional as you see it pictured. The leveling system on the GC4 & GC5 is a series of inverted bolts in which the heads of the bolts are used to raise the slates to level them out, but most table mechanic's don't use them, they use shims instead...because the bolts won't stay in place over time, as there's no way of locking them in place.
The holes you're looking at are designed to give you access to the center of the slates for continued leveling of the center of the slates if needed.
Not really, because you have to trade out the machine screws that mount the slate for wood threaded slate screws. Problem with using them is that you have no ability to back them off for leveling if needed once the table has been assembled with the cloth on the slate. But wedges are used in place of the leveling system which is just as accurate when it comes to leveling the slates.
You are 100% correct in my case, anyway. I've shot on both the Pro and Pro-Am, and don't see a marked difference in the way they play, but as far as looks, well, that is one of the main reasons I like the Pro. It looks like a commercial table, (a look I happen to like), as apposed to the Pro-Am, which to me looks like a cheap table you'd buy at Namco Pools. I realize they are both the same high quality, but the Pro-Am is just plain butt ugly.
I also agree with your statement about the pockets marking the balls.
As far as the Diamondwood finish, their website lists it as an option on the Pro, as well as rail return.
Brunswick Gold Crown 101
Diamond Pro Am 82
Woohoo...I guess?:sorry::smile:
Diamond Pro Am 82
Woohoo...I guess?:sorry::smile:
OK.
So, what are the advantages of the Pro-Am vs. Pro, assuming you configure the Pro with a 1-piece slate (to get the wedge system), have a ball return, and use dymondwood??)
I do think the Pro looks a lot better, so that is +1 for the Pro.
I'd assume the Pro-Am is more stable, given the location of the legs.
Do both the Pro and Pro-Am have the over-sized slate and rails bolted onto the slate?
--mark
The Pro don't come with a ball return anymore. The Pro has to be set up each time it's moved, whereas the ProAm is already assembled. The ProAm also commands a higher resale value than the Pro does. Yes, both the rail designs bolt through the slate. As far as the size of the slate, it's the normal size 9ft slates, any other 9ft slates are undersized.
OK, thanks Glen. Very helpful.
So I will revise the Pro vs. Pro-Am comparo to:
Diamond Pro
+ looks
- setup
- no ball return
+ no marks on balls with new nylon pockets
(opt) 1-piece slate
(opt) Dymondwood
= wedge leveling system
= rails, playability, slate size
Diamond Pro-Am
- looks
+ fast setup and easier to move (don't have the take the table apart)
+ resale value
+ ball return
- marks on balls
= wedge leveling system
= rails, playability, slate size
So, the question is whether the resale value, setup speed and more efficient movement, and ball return offset the annoying ball marks and looks....And this assumes the Pro is configured with a 1-piece slate and Dymondwood, removing both of those items.
Did I miss anything?
--mark
BOTH are great table when set up correctly.
These threads are getting a little old and useless.
Blonde vs Brunette
Ford vs Chevy
blah, blah, blah..
These threads are getting a little old and useless.
Blonde vs Brunette
Ford vs Chevy
blah, blah, blah..
I prefer "yada, yada, yada." I wonder what other people prefer. Maybe we should....blah, blah, blah..