Diamond ProAm vs. Brunswick Gold Crown

9' Diamond ProAm vs. 9' Brunswick Gold Crown

  • Brunswick Gold Crown

    Votes: 224 48.6%

  • Diamond Pro Am

    Votes: 226 49.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 11 2.4%
  • Total voters
    461
realkingcobra said:
Out of level tables are just that...out of level...it don't matter what table is being played on...or who built it....so it's NOT a Diamond thing only. Diamond just like Brunswick only builds the tables then sells them, after that fact...the rest is up to the table mechanic that works on the tables.....ALL the tables. Bad slates are bad slates period, and ever table manufacture on earth has delt with them at one time or another...but an out of level table has NOTHING do to with Diamond or Brunswick! Complain to the last table mechanic that worked on the tables!!!

Glen
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Both the GC V and Diamonds I play on are regularly worked on by Ernesto Dominguez and his son, Oscar. They are recognized as top flight mechanics. They did wonders with the old Globals in the room. It isn't a table mechanic problem.

Myself and the other players differentiate between the Diamonds as being more or less true. There is only one GC V and no one I know feels it has ever been unlevel. I don't play on the other Brunswicks because they have bigger pockets. There is another room I have played at and also there some of the Diamonds are avoided as having goofy rolls. I don't know who takes care of those but judging from how the leather pockets were installed I would guess the skill level wasn't the best. That's why I don't judge Diamonds by those tables. Otherwise, I can only go by what I see.

As far as the cushion installation I don't think any of the Diamonds I have played on are the newer ones you refer to and I look forward to seeing some.
 
risky biz said:
Both the GC V and Diamonds I play on are regularly worked on by Ernesto Dominguez and his son, Oscar. They are recognized as top flight mechanics. They did wonders with the old Globals in the room. It isn't a table mechanic problem.

Myself and the other players differentiate between the Diamonds as being more or less true. There is only one GC V and no one I know feels it has ever been unlevel. I don't play on the other Brunswicks because they have bigger pockets. There is another room I have played at and also there some of the Diamonds are avoided as having goofy rolls. I don't know who takes care of those but judging from how the leather pockets were installed I would guess the skill level wasn't the best. That's why I don't judge Diamonds by those tables. Otherwise, I can only go by what I see.

As far as the cushion installation I don't think any of the Diamonds I have played on are the newer ones you refer to and I look forward to seeing some.
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So, on balance, you are saying that for any given number of Diamond Pro Ams/Pros, these tables "roll off" with greater frequency than the same number of Gold Crown V's, correct?

By the way, I shall happily buy you a beer if you ever make it my way. No hard feelings.
 
jalapus logan said:
This is why I am comparing stock tables. I've never heard of anyone having to "correct" the way a Diamond Pro Am plays. $ for $, to me, I can't see how anyone could buy a better table new than a Diamond Pro Am or Pro table.

When I was trying to decide on which table to purchase, I quickly narrowed my search down to between the Gold Crown and either the Diamond Pro or Pro Am. After playing for years on each, I already had decided that the Diamond tables played better and had better consistency between tables. When I saw that the Gold Crown actually cost substantially MORE than the Diamond, my decision was easy. I mean, why would I pay MORE for a table that doesn't play as well???
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So, is this poll a poll - or a thinly veiled excuse to promote your own choice?

Dale
 
pdcue said:
So, is this poll a poll - or a thinly veiled excuse to promote your own choice?

Dale
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Tis a poll. And my opinions are blatantly stated, not thinly veiled, not that my opinion matters a bit.
 
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Man, some of y'all need to lighten up. This is an online pool hall, right? I understand that I may appear to have nefarious intent, but really, I originally brought this up as a light-hearted way of talking about tables. Hell, pool is supposed to be fun, right?
 
jalapus logan said:
So, on balance, you are saying that for any given number of Diamond Pro Ams/Pros, these tables "roll off" with greater frequency than the same number of Gold Crown V's, correct?

By the way, I shall happily buy you a beer if you ever make it my way. No hard feelings.
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I can't say conclusively that a Diamond has off-rolls more often than GC V's, only that I have noticed that on the relatively small number I've played on. Big difference. And the off-rolls I'm referring to are very slight. They wouldn't even happen on a moderate force shot.

I can't think of any good reason to have hard feelings just because I think that some of the criticism of Brunswick is lopsided and overstated. I love playing on both tables. I think some people have an attitude toward them just because they're made in China.
 
my new Pro-ams

We just finished the install on 12 8' pro-am with matching lights today. My decision to buy Diamond was a no brainer since Brunswick quit making the GC 8'. The features offered by the Diamond hard to argue and then there is the price, Diamond beat Brunswick by $2000 per table. Time will tell if I made the right decision both from table performance/durability and money perspectives. Also Mike and Gary were the delivery guys and they were great. I have worked on 100s of pool tables and these guys schooled the old man on a thing or two.

Mark Smith
Mark Smith Custom Cues and Beezer's Fine Billiards
Russellville, Arkansas
479-968-3559
 
This is one hell of a poll.

Everyone should like Diamonds better. Why you ask? Not because they make a better or worse table, both are great products, but Diamond supports the game and its players. They are one of us.

Brunswick is too corporate and with too many interest outside of the pool world. If Brunswick corp sponsored annual tournaments and promoted pool a lot more than they do, I might have a little different opinion.
 
I voted for the Gold Crown. I think both tables are fantastic and I'd love to own either one. But for $1000.00 I can buy a Gold Crown in just about any part of the country. I can pay one of the top table mechanics to come set it up, recalibrate the rails, and give me exactly what I want, which is better than either manufacturer can do from the factory and I'll still only be into the table for 1/2 of what it would cost me to get a diamond.

Donny(SDBilliards) is coming out this Friday to finish the setup on my GCI as a matter of fact. I chose this table because it's american made, I've always wanted one and it's a piece of history. When people ask "do you think these tables will last 40 years", I can say I know mine will. The last 40 years don't seem to have hardly put any age on this table. It wasn't used as a commercial table and it's only ever been recovered twice. Hard to find Diamonds that will be in my house, setup professionally (not by some shmuck from CL) and play like a dream for <$3000.

I can afford a new table, but I don't like paying more than I have to for anything, regardless if I can afford it.
 
Where's the option for both? I bought a gc1, for the same reasons as above, it's 47 years old but after working on it is starting to look like new again even after all that time as a pool hall table, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't put a pro-am next to it if I could.

Price is holding me back from the diamond also, for the same reasons stated above, mainly there aren't enough out there to flood the market and bring the prices down.

Between the two tables I like the looks of the diamond better but always will have a soft spot for the gc, grew up on them and grew up dreaming of having one some day like everyone else. And the cut of the rails of diamonds fits top level players better but I'm no pro. I admit I'm scared how much my game would suck adjusting to tight pockets on either a diamond or tournament edition gold crown, and how much less my guests would enjoy missing more balls. I've spent most of the last 20 years on 8' bar tables, just adjusting to 9' is a stretch. (pun intended)

One step at a time... One table at a time. I will own a pro-am and a gold crown both eventually unless I find a good deal on an anniversary to fix up, then the gold crown hits the road and finds a new happy owner for it's next 50 years.
 
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My GC is almost 40 years old and the rails haven't fallen apart yet. In fact they look almost new.

jalapus logan said:
I suppose so, but you're the expert here. How should I clarify the question to have better context?

Also, for me, I'll go ahead and stir the pot a bit and vote Diamond all the way. In 40 years, when all of the gold crown guys are complaining about their laminate rails falling apart, I'll be wiping down my Dymondwood rails and laughing when they look brand new once again - ha ha!
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I'm sorry, but i haven't read the 13 pages of this thread, but what is the cost of a Brunswick GV IV vs. a Diamond Professional?
Here in Norway you can't find Diamond tables, so i have nothing to compare GC tables against, but i do like the look of a GC table best, the squared off edges on Diamond tables is less elegant. Craftmanship wise it seem that Diamond tables are better, just from looking at pictures and their web site.
 
mark smith said:
We just finished the install on 12 8' pro-am with matching lights today. My decision to buy Diamond was a no brainer since Brunswick quit making the GC 8'. The features offered by the Diamond hard to argue and then there is the price, Diamond beat Brunswick by $2000 per table. Time will tell if I made the right decision both from table performance/durability and money perspectives. Also Mike and Gary were the delivery guys and they were great. I have worked on 100s of pool tables and these guys schooled the old man on a thing or two.

Mark Smith
Mark Smith Custom Cues and Beezer's Fine Billiards
Russellville, Arkansas
479-968-3559
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OMG, 8' tables. What a waste of money. Why not have 6 bar boxes and big tables?

When I used to travel to Dallas and a few other places that had like four 9 ft and 12 or so eight footers, the 9' were always taken first so I would just walk out instead of playing on 8' tables.

Sorry, jmo.
 
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