CTE OR NOT TO CTE....is so old

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Mowem down

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With all the crap that goes on back and forth about CTE, it leads me to wonder why all the s**t talking hasnt been put to rest ( at least, the test ) by some sort of on table test of skill....

The main reasons would have to be theres not enough great players that use it, compaired to the number that dont, to field 2 teams or because all the " Pros are liar's " ( so I was told on here ) and dont admit they use CTE. Or are we still in the waitting period for them to learn its really how they should be playing. Then there is the fact that they could very well think the whole argument is so stupid they just dont want to get involved....

So then if not the pros should we have a bunch of A players do battle. JB cases has woofed at more than one person to play some 500 a game ( or set ) one pocket... But who the hell is he and who the hell are the people hes woofing at and what would that prove one banger can beat another...

Wouldnt the real test be to have a ( so called ) lesser player with their CTE skills play a proven champion who says its crap... Lets say like John Schmidt.. At least the last time I saw him in person he wasnt shy about his position on CTE..

So theres the game, JB cases vs. anybody that says CTE is crap for 500 a game one pocket...

Great this will be put to bed once and for all...

Line-um up gett-um playing I for one cant wait for it to be over.
 
*grabs a bowl of popcorn*

I don't see how JB winning/losing to someone will define anything about CTE directly. It's just one element of the game of pool.
 
Usually, the offer to bet is the first thing you'll see when a CTE shooter's kind of backed into a corner and tired of trying to argue with people who don't want to accept the mechanics/pivot/etc. stuff. It's kind of dumb though, it takes more than aim to make a great player, even if CTE's legit it only takes you so far. If John Schmidt crushes someone, it doesn't mean they're wrong about CTE. Similarly, if Stevie Moore crushes me (and he will) then it doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Resorting to the "let's gamble" defense is kind of like when two guys are discussing something in a bar and get into a fistfight.

There's no putting it to rest because nobody has the desire or attention span to sift through a hundred written pages (plus videos) about it, nevermind actually going to a table and trying it. As long as someone in the world makes balls better than the average joe, or at least better than he used to... and he feels it's due to CTE... it's not going to disappear.
 
Mowem down said:
With all the crap that goes on back and forth about CTE, it leads me to wonder why all the s**t talking hasnt been put to rest ( at least, the test ) by some sort of on table test of skill....

The main reasons would have to be theres not enough great players that use it, compaired to the number that dont, to field 2 teams or because all the " Pros are liar's " ( so I was told on here ) and dont admit they use CTE. Or are we still in the waitting period for them to learn its really how they should be playing. Then there is the fact that they could very well think the whole argument is so stupid they just dont want to get involved....

So then if not the pros should we have a bunch of A players do battle. JB cases has woofed at more than one person to play some 500 a game ( or set ) one pocket... But who the hell is he and who the hell are the people hes woofing at and what would that prove one banger can beat another...

Wouldnt the real test be to have a ( so called ) lesser player with their CTE skills play a proven champion who says its crap... Lets say like John Schmidt.. At least the last time I saw him in person he wasnt shy about his position on CTE..

So theres the game, JB cases vs. anybody that says CTE is crap for 500 a game one pocket...

Great this will be put to bed once and for all...

Line-um up gett-um playing I for one cant wait for it to be over.
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Do you think that such a match would make it all go away? As has been pointed out millions of times aiming is one part of the game, after you aim you have to execute, then you have to do it again over and over and over consistently with heart to go with it.

It's funny you bring up John Schmidt. I think I will call him and have a discussion with him about it. John's position on aiming systems is clear but John is also a student of the game as anyone who knows him knows.

I wonder though why Stevie Moore's position on CTE doesn't get ANY credit by the (&$(*&$(*&ing "naysaysers". They almost call him a liar, have called him a shill, say that there is a line a mile long waiting to play him for money (we are supposed to believe that one of the "naysaysers" went to a tournament and had multiple conversations with so-called "gilt-edged" champions about aiming just for the purpose of gathering evidence for his position and all these gilt-edged champions are just choomping at the bit to get in the box with Stevie.)

All of your "naysayers" have repeated said that pocketing balls, winning tournaments, winning challenge matches and basically any improvement in performance proves nothing about CTE.

So why don't you get on board with the naysayer agenda and study their talking points before you propose something that would not end the debate in the least?

Or maybe you could try out CTE and see how you like it? Maybe it does nothing for you and so you drop it. Maybe it helps you and you keep it.

You could have done that in the time it took you to make the original post.
 
Spyder Web Dot Com is the CTE Expert, he sold me on CTE. JBCase put the final nail in CTE for me to believe. JMHO CTE is the real deal, but you are free to believe, or not!
 
For the record though, I will gamble with Lou F. Pat Johnson, Banks, JSP, JAL, Dr. Dave, Nick B. and whoever else is not a recognized champion even with no spot. Maybe this proves nothing about whether CTE is better but I liken it to the old kung fu movies where practicioners of one style were always going around challenging other styles to see which one was best. And if nothing else you can always play the "well I beat you" card even if it means nothing.
 
JB Cases said:
Do you think that such a match would make it all go away? As has been pointed out millions of times aiming is one part of the game, after you aim you have to execute, then you have to do it again over and over and over consistently with heart to go with it.

It's funny you bring up John Schmidt. I think I will call him and have a discussion with him about it. John's position on aiming systems is clear but John is also a student of the game as anyone who knows him knows.

I wonder though why Stevie Moore's position on CTE doesn't get ANY credit by the (&$(*&$(*&ing "naysaysers". They almost call him a liar, have called him a shill, say that there is a line a mile long waiting to play him for money (we are supposed to believe that one of the "naysaysers" went to a tournament and had multiple conversations with so-called "gilt-edged" champions about aiming just for the purpose of gathering evidence for his position and all these gilt-edged champions are just choomping at the bit to get in the box with Stevie.)

All of your "naysayers" have repeated said that pocketing balls, winning tournaments, winning challenge matches and basically any improvement in performance proves nothing about CTE.

So why don't you get on board with the naysayer agenda and study their talking points before you propose something that would not end the debate in the least?

Or maybe you could try out CTE and see how you like it? Maybe it does nothing for you and so you drop it. Maybe it helps you and you keep it.

You could have done that in the time it took you to make the original post.[/QUOT

S**t... If you took all the time and energy wasted on this dumb-ass topic, and put it to a good use there would be a players union and a MASSIVE trust fund earning enough interest to support a grand tour. But your right befor I make a post about it I should pick which side of the fence Im on. No I dont think so. Your right however, I did make a misstake, I should have just said what I really think which is..." THIS WHOLE CTE THING IS A DAMN WASTE OF TIME AND ENERGY, AND IS DOING NOTHING TO HELP SOLVE ONE ILL OF A FAILING GAME... And at this point I would have to be the first to apologise tho every player that will come after me for wasting my time, energy and the chance to make a difference.
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JB Cases said:
For the record though, I will gamble with Lou F. Pat Johnson, Banks, JSP, JAL, Dr. Dave, Nick B. and whoever else is not a recognized champion even with no spot. Maybe this proves nothing about whether CTE is better but I liken it to the old kung fu movies where practicioners of one style were always going around challenging other styles to see which one was best. And if nothing else you can always play the "well I beat you" card even if it means nothing.
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From the posts Ive seen, I liken it to kindergardeners throwing sand at each other, neither mature enough to figure out their getting themselves dirty.

Im a 100 percent posative The Masters proved things beyond a doubt, and the " well I beat you " thing showed up long after they were dead.
 
Also, if you use Firefox then you can instantly banish all mention of CTE from AZB. I did it and it cuts down the amount of threads tremendously.

I am using Chrome right now so I see everything. FF + super ignore is the nuts for getting rid of unwanted content or posters.
 
Im a low level player or "unheralded amateur" and I dont have much expierience with cte, but if I got a month or two to practice it I would play some "good" players.

I would love to torture Donny on tar while eye of the tiger is playing in the backround
 
jamesroberts said:
Im a low level player or "unheralded amateur" and I dont have much expierience with cte, but if I got a month or two to practice it I would play some "good" players.

I would love to torture Donny on tar while eye of the tiger is playing in the backround
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I see you're in tampa so that match could actually happen. Someone ring Donny?
 
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jamesroberts said:
actually Me and donny are friends and I was talking to him about cte and he said he kinda already aimed like that
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Can you expand on the "kinda" for the gallery?:wink:

Do you cast your bait/jig at a spot on the pond or to the CTE side of it - pre-pivot of the rod to catch them whoppers?:wink::thumbup:
 
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JB Cases said:
For the record though, I will gamble with Lou F. Pat Johnson, Banks, JSP, JAL, Dr. Dave, Nick B.
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I will bet a significant amount of money on Nick B drilling you in 1-pocket. Let me know if and when it goes off.
 
JB Cases said:
For the record though, I will gamble with Lou F. Pat Johnson, Banks, JSP, JAL, Dr. Dave, Nick B. and whoever else is not a recognized champion even with no spot. Maybe this proves nothing about whether CTE is better but I liken it to the old kung fu movies where practicioners of one style were always going around challenging other styles to see which one was best. And if nothing else you can always play the "well I beat you" card even if it means nothing.
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Will you be at the US Open One Pocket in Las Vegas In May?

I would be happy to give you a little action if you don't mind picking on older players. John Henderson
 
jrhendy said:
Will you be at the US Open One Pocket in Las Vegas In May?

I would be happy to give you a little action if you don't mind picking on older players. John Henderson
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Be careful for what you wish....you will be up against the CTE Master.:thumbup:
 
jrhendy said:
Will you be at the US Open One Pocket in Las Vegas In May?

I would be happy to give you a little action if you don't mind picking on older players. John Henderson
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Didn't we already have this conversation? I thought I made it perfectly clear that I will be happy to play you. Are you now going to stalk me?

I also made it clear to everyone else that I will not be at the US Open.

James Roberts will be happy to play you some even up. He's a CTE newbie so you ought to really run over him. I don't even know him personally but if he'd like to go out and play you I will be more than happy to ship him some extra dough to bet with.

Would you like to try Stevie Moore some? I am sure that can be arranged. He's probably going to be out that way in May. If you're just dying for action then I can find you a CTE user to play. How about Landon Shufett? At 16 years old he can't possibly know enough about one pocket to be a threat to you. So I will bet on him and his CTE against you with no spot. Want to beat up on a 16 year old?

And if you and Joey A. play then I will be happy to give you side action of $200 a game just because.
 
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