Official 14.1 High Runs

sjm said:
Other Amercian straight poolers not yet mentioned that I'm quite certain have run over 200 are Jim Fusco, Carlos Viera and Bob Maidhof.
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Florida Bob Maidhof put a 127 on me a few years back at the Pete Sinkler 14.1 event at D&D Billiards. He plays real nice patterns, and is a great guy to play. I of course came back and hit him with a stellar 28 and missed a break ball! game over....then Jack Calovito beat me.....:D

the Houseman can back me up on this one......Andy Toth's high run is 231 I believe. He's my teacher, from Downingtown Pa. He had a very different style from the "classic" 14.1. He was also known to give out spots as high as 80 no count!:eek:

Gerry
 
I have some information from verifiable source that Nick Van Den Berg of Holland has this week broken the European straight pool record with a run of 523 balls!!!!! That is almost 35 racks.

I think this was actually in practice so is not an official record!!!

From the same source itseems as if the in-house club record is a whopping 712 but that is not officially verifed.
 
It's weird how they have Mosconi at 626 (closer to the number associated with Eufemia) and a rumour of a 712 (!!) as a house record on that link.

523 balls?!

Lousy, choking bum, you only needed 4 more to beat the established 526 from Willie, Nick. Concentrate, damnit, concentrate :D

Anyone doubt one of the Euro players is going to break Willies' record in the next few years?

Engert-490, Holmann-400+, Nick-523
 
my name is pat howey...used to live in rochester ny. i grew up playing mike siegil, hubbard, danny d. crane helped me a lot and babe cranfield was my idle and mentor. i knew him over 40 years. never saw a day he played he didnt run a 200! the great thing about him is he would answer a question after a shot! i retired to fla. and dont play much 14.1 now....getting to old to concentrate ...play a little 1 hole now that is about it...
 
I wonder if some of the other AZers find this to be true as well...I find high runs in straight pool occur when you stop thinking or at (least counting) too much and just let the game flow and get in the zone..Then before you know it you've run off a bunch....To me there is a zen like quality to high run...

My high run is 45 and been in 30's and 40's a bunch....But when I get on a run when I forget the count and just execute the balls pile up and when I'm done you like damn did I just run that????
 
The_Teach said:
I have some information from verifiable source that Nick Van Den Berg of Holland has this week broken the European straight pool record with a run of 523 balls!!!!! That is almost 35 racks.

I think this was actually in practice so is not an official record!!!

From the same source itseems as if the in-house club record is a whopping 712 but that is not officially verifed.
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Sorry, I don't believe this. And who has run 712 in Club 8 Amsterdam where Nick plays and is going to try to break his high run 13.-17.1. ? I would've heard a ridiculous claim like that before if it was true. I don't say Nick hasn't run 523, but sounds "not likely" to me. 3 balls short of Mosconi's record ? Nah. None so far has crossed over the 300 barrier in Holland as far as I know.
 
And I thought it was that inspirational talk that I had with you on the telephone while you were playing that enabled you to attain that run of 400.

I might start playing this game.

Warm Regards,
JoeyA

john schmidt said:
hey rude dog long time no see,anyway it took me just over three hours and as some of you know i play fairly quick at 14.1.as far as my next highest i ran 285 on a fairly loose diamond ,i also ran 282 three days after the400 and got that on home video.ive run over 200 around 23or24 times i forget, but my best runs were all done on new cloth clean ball and big pockets if any one is interested in those details.my highest 10 runs are this. 400,285,282,268,240,236,224,224,217,215. and then ive run between 200 and 214 about 15 more times. funny thing is i must dog it because ive run between 190and 199 around 10 times and missed lol must be thinking about the 200. anyway it was fun bragging a little with you guys hope that answers some of you questions about my 14.1 practice. one more thing that im proud of is almost everyone of those runs especially the 400 had lots of people see the entire run.anyway bye for now john schmidt
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Nick vdb is going to try to beat the record of niels feyen this week.
He will start monday and finish this friday.

his first consecutive breaks where:
monday: practice with max og 90. warming himself up
thusday: 71, 96, 78, 118, 52, 65, 57, 168
wensday: more to come....
 
poolshark52 said:
my name is pat howey...used to live in rochester ny. i grew up playing mike siegil, hubbard, danny d. crane helped me a lot and babe cranfield was my idle and mentor. i knew him over 40 years. never saw a day he played he didnt run a 200! the great thing about him is he would answer a question after a shot! i retired to fla. and dont play much 14.1 now....getting to old to concentrate ...play a little 1 hole now that is about it...
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Shark-man,
Welcome to the board. There are at least a couple of the Rochester members that feel that your game was EXTREMELY strong; capable of a top pro level. Do you mind sharing why you didn't stick with the pool???
 
nvdb made a 138 today, still far from the record... always nice to see a dutch derby between niels and nick.
 
Williebetmore said:
Shark-man,
Welcome to the board. There are at least a couple of the Rochester members that feel that your game was EXTREMELY strong; capable of a top pro level. Do you mind sharing why you didn't stick with the pool???
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i worked in a factory , general moters, for 30 yrs. always had a family to take care of and i was a fishing charter capt. for 20 yrs. so i didnt have the time for the road or the cash. not to say i didnt gamble, i played pretty high, but always took care of business first. i used most of my vacation for my charter.
i do play pool every day now at cm's in seminole, fla. got divorced and retired here. i play pretty good still but cant concentrate for hours at a time .i run 100s once in a while but like 1 hole now. im learning ....best move is still 8and out though. so that is my story and im stickin to it!
 
The Kiss said:
I wonder if some of the other AZers find this to be true as well...I find high runs in straight pool occur when you stop thinking or at (least counting) too much and just let the game flow and get in the zone..Then before you know it you've run off a bunch....To me there is a zen like quality to high run...

My high run is 45 and been in 30's and 40's a bunch....But when I get on a run when I forget the count and just execute the balls pile up and when I'm done you like damn did I just run that????
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you are right! during a run..you dont drink, smoke or talk...you just break the balls and take the puzzle apartand wait for the next rack....when you miss you wake up! 300 balls is like a 2 hour nap if you play fairly fast!
 
poolshark52 said:
you are right! during a run..you dont drink, smoke or talk...you just break the balls and take the puzzle apartand wait for the next rack....when you miss you wake up! 300 balls is like a 2 hour nap if you play fairly fast!
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Most of the big time players I've asked said they don't get rolling til about 50 or 60 balls.

So, I guess what I've been doing would be considered a quick cat nap!:D

Gerry
 
The_Teach said:
I have some information from verifiable source that Nick Van Den Berg of Holland has this week broken the European straight pool record with a run of 523 balls!!!!! That is almost 35 racks.

I think this was actually in practice so is not an official record!!!

From the same source itseems as if the in-house club record is a whopping 712 but that is not officially verifed.
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Not true. He tried to break the dutch record (275) by playing straight pool for a week 5 hours a day non-stop. His best run was 168 his third best (with me racking) was 118. So he didn´t break his own record of 258, but he gave it a good go. Forget the club record, that´s nonsense.
 
i double that dave. Many rumours, but nick himself hasnt said anything like that when trying to breake the record. He posted his most important breaks on a dutch forum and 500+ wasnt one of them :D

ps dave: are u going to the concorde open?
 
Just a bit more on George Mikula. I didn't know him well but I knew him. A very, very nice guy, at least any time I was in his company. I heard he was born with natural ability for pool like I'm sure some of the other greats you all mention. I heard a story I find hard to believe that the first time he played he was in his teens and he ran 15 balls, just shot them in not knowing anything about cue ball control. Probable a bit of a tall story but it grew out of his amazing ability (and who knows)? He taught many players, many just regular guys that he just liked.

I heard he actually did very well in that first big event mentioned earlier and I think there are stats from that championship that mention him.

Sadly alcohol was a big problem. He would be fine for long stretches of time then drop out of sight for months when he would fall of the wagon.

I was told he was devistated when his last surving parent died and he passed away not too long after.

An amazing talent. Made running balls looK like a walk in the park.
 
bruin70,

Your earlier quote of:

""C" players - 30's,,,"B" players - 40-50's,,,,,"A" players start at around 90-100. open level starts at about 170-180. 250-260 seems to identify those "pro" players. and it seems the REALLY top players have popped WELL ABOVE 300. and then you have those 14.1 ONLY players who's high runs don't mirror their 9ball speed. of course you have to add consistancyto the mix,,,,,,,, but i think high runs are a pretty good indicator."

I believe is a little skewed. A true "C" player can't even run a rack in 9 ball, so how are they supposed to run 30 balls? Same with "B" players. Are you referring to a different ABC system than I am thinking of? If you are talking in terms of 14.1 only, and not any other game (10, 9, 8, or one pocket), is there another way that you are measuring this.

In my experience, a "C" player would miss after 4-6 balls in the first rack. Did I misunderstand what you meant?

Also, I consider Max Eberle a real pro (as evidenced by his recent performance in the world 14.1), and his website claims his high run is 158.
 
Smorgass Bored said:
Seriously, I once ran 410.
Doug
( yards, in Marine Corps boot camp )
( ah, downhill )
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Thanks for the laugh of the day... man... cracked me up. :D
 
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