Changing the Rules in the Middle of a Tourney..
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LOL... Trust me, I know my brother better than you.. A lot better.. And when someone asks someone if they just threatened them, then the proper answer is no, unless you want problems.. He had his chance to say no, and didn't..
Grandpa Neil.. Really!!
That's funny, in jest Neil.. I'm sure you are just all tore up over that insult!
Seems like someone may still be in grade school.. Just saying..
I'm a grandpa and proud of it!!! If Neil is, I'm sure he is proud too!
Ray
ps. I love lamp
She calls me Grandpa Bigtruck! lol
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Actually, I am a grandpa! In fact, two of my grandkids are older than my youngest daughter! I know he meant it as an insult, by I take it as a compliment.
I'd guess I'll be before I know it too.. It would not bother me one bit either..
After all, I am getting older.. and wiser I hope!!
So this did reach the 10th page, and my bizarre sense of understanding of your so-called liberal rationale actually improves, slightly. I realize I'm truly blessed for being the only child in my family because I would have for sure murdered my brother if he defended me like the way you did simply because I lost a match.
Thank you though. I realize I'm blessed, I realize I can count, and now I even realize I can ***king follow the fricken bouncing ball.
Case closed for me. I won't be responding to your liberal post from now on.
Thank you though. I realize I'm blessed, I realize I can count, and now I even realize I can ***king follow the fricken bouncing ball.
Case closed for me. I won't be responding to your liberal post from now on.
It wasn't used the entire event until the last 2 matches.. Do you think it's fair to run an entire tournament one way, then change it up with 2 matches left?.. Cause I kinda tend to think that's ridiculous..
Of course, I know the only response I'll get is an insult.. It's all your intelligence level can handle..
Actually, I am a grandpa! In fact, two of my grandkids are older than my youngest daughter! I know he meant it as an insult, by I take it as a compliment.
I admire your wisdom Neil. Too many young people today forget how much they can learn from their elders.
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Ray
Actually, it is quite common for the finals and semi-finals to be run different. In the semi's the race is either longer or shorter. In this case it was longer. Given the average amount of time that it took the players to get to 8 games, combined with the fact that the event organizers were on a time schedule, it is not surprising that a shot clock was instituted.
This is in the official rules -
25. Shot-clock: If in the opinion of the referee a player is impeding the progress of the tournament or match with consistently slow play, the referee can warn the player and then at his/her discretion impose a time limit of 45 seconds that applies to both players. That is to say, both players are put on a 45 second shot clock. Each player will receive a 15 second “time” warning. If the limit is exceeded by a player who has received a 15 second “time” warning, a foul will be called and the incoming player is rewarded cue ball in hand.
That is followed up by rule #26
26. Referee authority: The referee will maintain order and enforce the rules of the game. The referee is the final judge in all matters of fact, and is in complete charge of the match.
Kennan was the final authority, and acted in accordance with the official rules, which are outlined here -
Detailed Rules - Ultimate 10 Ball
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Drew,
never once did i say the "matches were taking too long", i did say the players exhibited slow play in their previous matches... and i do distinctly remember Kennan using the clock on a couple of matches... remember we were overseeing the matches next to each other most of the tournament. apparently you did not witness that. and truthfully... do you really think the shot clock being implemented is why YOUR BROTHER lost? Jeremy is a class act... maybe you should take a lesson or two from him. Jus'sayin! if you ever happen to be at any of the tournaments i frequent, please introduce yourself. i always like to have a face to put a name with. When you see Jeremy tell him what an honor it was for me to preside over his matches and how much i admire his poise and composure.
KW
teddy, this pretty much sums it up, since you were not in the player meeting.
25. Shot-clock: If in the opinion of the referee a player is impeding the progress of the tournament or match with consistently slow play, the referee can warn the player and then at his/her discretion impose a time limit of 45 seconds that applies to both players. That is to say, both players are put on a 45 second shot clock. Each player will receive a 15 second “time” warning. If the limit is exceeded by a player who has received a 15 second “time” warning, a foul will be called and the incoming player is rewarded cue ball in hand.
That is followed up by rule #26
26. Referee authority: The referee will maintain order and enforce the rules of the game. The referee is the final judge in all matters of fact, and is in complete charge of the match.
your opinion is like your a$$hole...it stinks
25. Shot-clock: If in the opinion of the referee a player is impeding the progress of the tournament or match with consistently slow play, the referee can warn the player and then at his/her discretion impose a time limit of 45 seconds that applies to both players. That is to say, both players are put on a 45 second shot clock. Each player will receive a 15 second “time” warning. If the limit is exceeded by a player who has received a 15 second “time” warning, a foul will be called and the incoming player is rewarded cue ball in hand.
That is followed up by rule #26
26. Referee authority: The referee will maintain order and enforce the rules of the game. The referee is the final judge in all matters of fact, and is in complete charge of the match.
your opinion is like your a$$hole...it stinks
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you can't prove that. can you? no you can't. you'll just keep blabbering a bunch on non sense and claiming people are threating you when no one did. the only one who can't face the truth is you. you have been told by players, and refs who were part of the tournament the way things were and refuse to believe it. there's no way you know the facts about every match that happened in that tournament because there is no way you could have physically watched every match. you didn't play in the event so you have no idea what the official rules stated at the players meeting were. give it a rest.
You really think that? I'm stunned and shocked you would think that.
I only wish the best for Jeremy and Alicia. Jeremy knows me well enough to know I want the world for him and his pool career. We had an amicable break up and he's a stand up guy and one of the best players in this sport.
I would never in my life deliberately hurt his pool career and for you to infer that because of a break up eleven (11) years ago is because you *think* he gets the shaft around here is utterly ridiculous and asinine.
You've done it. You've pissed me off to make that accusation about me when for 5 years my life all it was about him succeeding in the pool world.
A break up is something that happens. I would never not promote him and his future in pool because of that. That is actually very disturbing.
Hey, when did AKATrigger get promted to site owner?
Did I miss the memo?
(Maybe she really does own the site. hmmmm, this gets out, we could be in for some trouble. Better stay on her good side. Of course, I'd rather stay on her good side out of general principle, but for the sake of thread drama... or giggles...)
Did I miss the memo?
(Maybe she really does own the site. hmmmm, this gets out, we could be in for some trouble. Better stay on her good side.
Of course, I'd rather stay on her good side out of general principle, but for the sake of thread drama... or giggles...)
Hey, when did AKATrigger get promted to site owner?
Did I miss the memo?
(Maybe she really does own the site. hmmmm, this gets out, we could be in for some trouble. Better stay on her good side.
She is like Sam "ACE "Rothstein, she just changes her title once in a while to avoid tax implications
Your perspective is that it wasn't fair to your brother... boohoo. Get over it.
If JJ doesn't like it, which I'm sure he does not feel like you do, then he can abstain from tournaments with the clearly stated rules about shot clocks.
Uh Oh!
I am the tournament director for the US Open 10-ball Championship May 16-21 in Las Vegas. Better let everyone know that we are using the shot clock on the TV table for the entire event, and any other matches I deem to moving along too slowly. We are playing a race to 8 with matches scheduled for 2 1/2 hours.
Bill S
So I read most of the thread but stopped when it got derailed a little. I wish there was a way to run pro events in the US the way they are run in Asia (possibly Europe, but I only have experience in Asia). For a race to 9, the shot clock isn't used at the beginning of the match, but after 7 or 9 games there is a mandatory five minute break, then when the players return the players are put on the shot clock no matter what the score is (obviously if it's 9-0 this doesn't happen). Sure, it is changing in the middle of the match, but you know it is coming.
Another thing, neither player is allowed to take a break until the mandatory break. It stops the players from breaking too early and slowing the match down.
I realize this isn't always feasible because the cost of competent referees, but it's an idea.
Sarah
Another thing, neither player is allowed to take a break until the mandatory break. It stops the players from breaking too early and slowing the match down.
I realize this isn't always feasible because the cost of competent referees, but it's an idea.
Sarah
Great pic grandpa Ray, my boy is 8 so maby in another 15 years I can get to be a proud grandad like you.
Kennan