You know you are in trouble in your One Pocket match when....

BillPorter

BillPorter

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The other day I was playing a strong local player who was giving me 10 to 6 and the break. At one point in the match he shot a long rail bank and rather than moving the cue ball to a relatively safe position, he played position for a follow-up shot on another object ball leaving me a couple of easy shots if he missed the bank. By the way, he made the bank and ran several more balls after the bank.

Watching this shot, I thought to myself, "Whoops! I think I underestimated this guy's game."

So what kind of events lead you to believe that you may be in trouble in a One Pocket match? Here are a couple that came to my mind as I thought about this question and I invite you to add any that you can think of.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE IN YOUR ONE POCKET MATCH WHEN:

1) You are congratulating yourself on the great break shot you just made only to look up and see that you are frozen to the back of a ball and your opponent has moved two balls so that they are near his pocket.

2) Your opponent makes the Jersey Red shot on you.

3) Two or three of the railbirds offer to make big side bets with you.

4) Your opponent runs 10 and out when giving you 10 to 6.
 
number 1.....when you get all the breaks......he either knows your break sucks or doesnt care that you get to shove several balls to your hole to start the game off......

number 2...... anytime i am playing someone :smile:


ps great post....
 
Bill, anytime I say - oh oh not good - can lead to disaster. Like when whitey takes that extra 1/4 turn or comes up a hair short. Or when the o/b rolls to far or not far enough and leaves a free shot.

In last months monthly a guy run 9 and out on me. Of course I have those runs to just not as often.:grin:

Rod
 
If the guy hurls the break and get a ball on the rail....watch out.

If she ugly and always attacking her hole...its Cecil. Quit and give him a few dollars to get by.

If his longrail banks sound like an m80 exploding. Try to move with him.
 
1. If a guy offers you 10 to 6 and the break you are probably in trouble especially if he knows your speed.

2. If your opponent resembles this guy.

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BillPorter said:
The other day I was playing a strong local player who was giving me 10 to 6 and the break. At one point in the match he shot a long rail bank and rather than moving the cue ball to a relatively safe position, he played position for a follow-up shot on another object ball leaving me a couple of easy shots if he missed the bank. By the way, he made the bank and ran several more balls after the bank.

Watching this shot, I thought to myself, "Whoops! I think I underestimated this guy's game."

So what kind of events lead you to believe that you may be in trouble in a One Pocket match? Here are a couple that came to my mind as I thought about this question and I invite you to add any that you can think of.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE IN YOUR ONE POCKET MATCH WHEN:

1) You are congratulating yourself on the great break shot you just made only to look up and see that you are frozen to the back of a ball and your opponent has moved two balls so that they are near his pocket.

2) Your opponent makes the Jersey Red shot on you.

3) Two or three of the railbirds offer to make big side bets with you.

4) Your opponent runs 10 and out when giving you 10 to 6.
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#5 You play a nice safety and think you will probably get a shot and your opponent makes a ball you didn't see, even though you checked the stack.
#6 Nothing you do is quite good enough , even though it works on everyone else. So you start trying to do a little more , and end up selling out.
#7 You start admiring the ease with which he makes balls.
The railbirds wanting to bet is the surest way though.
 
alstl said:
1. If a guy offers you 10 to 6 and the break you are probably in trouble especially if he knows your speed.
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Exactly! I have long held the opinion that when significant weight is involved, and if you know nothing about either player, the player giving weight is better than even money to win the session.

I keep pretty close records of my gambling sessions and over the past three years I have won about 48% of the sessions where I was getting weight and a whooping 86% of the matches where I was giving weight. Playing even my winning percentage was in the 60s.
 
well . . .

BillPorter said:
Exactly! I have long held the opinion that when significant weight is involved, and if you know nothing about either player, the player giving weight is better than even money to win the session.

I keep pretty close records of my gambling sessions and over the past three years I have won about 48% of the sessions where I was getting weight and a whooping 86% of the matches where I was giving weight. Playing even my winning percentage was in the 60s.
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When I freeze the cue ball to the foot rail and the other player shoots an eighteen foot bank likes it's a hanger I know I might be in a wee bit of trouble! :D

Really wanted to comment on your weight comments though. The vast majority of the time weight is given based on the better player's normal or better speed, not his belly to the ground, bust a gut, gotta win best speed. As a result the better player can almost always find a little higher gear and find a way to win. Another careful player kept up with results awhile and found that he was equally dominant when he gave weight although he sincerely thought he had made games that gave both players an equal chance of winning.

Great hustlers like UJ Puckett said it best, "I'll give them what they want but not what they need!"

Hu
 
the minute i put my cue together, lol. Seriously I am just learning the game and I have quite a few of those "oh shit" moments. funny thing about those, the second you stand up you realize what you just did and all you can do is sit and watch. well at least i am learning.

Mike
 
I remember playing a 9 ball player and quite easily defeating him. He was old an close to retirement.

I offered a game of 8-6 for cheap and he pounced on me. I lost 3 games real quick. I should have known he was a 1pkt play, he did everything right.

That was in the 90s a long time ago, when I was stupid and easily preyed upon by wiser players. :(
 
mm4pool said:
the minute i put my cue together, lol. Seriously I am just learning the game and I have quite a few of those "oh shit" moments. funny thing about those, the second you stand up you realize what you just did and all you can do is sit and watch. well at least i am learning.

Mike
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I'm just learning the game also & really like it. Was playing really well one night & had my teacher down 7-1 when I was struck with "9 ball brain" (read: lost the patience that got me to 7-1) and tried a difficult (for me) shot for my last ball - made it but SCRATCHED :angry: He made a couple of balls & ended his inning with 3 balls by his hole. I made a really nice shot to move all 3 of them away and SCRATCHED AGAIN - ended up losing 5-8 :o

I like what I'm learning & try to play whenever I can :thumbup:
 
You know you are in trouble in your One Pocket match when...........you are playing a member of Hells Angels and beat him for big $$$:killingme::killingme:
 
alstl said:
1. If a guy offers you 10 to 6 and the break you are probably in trouble especially if he knows your speed.

2. If your opponent resembles this guy.

DSC00154.jpg
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lol thats just awesome...that was an instant classic with that pic/post...who is that guy anyway? is that ceasar morales? ;)
 
BillPorter said:
The other day I was playing a strong local player who was giving me 10 to 6 and the break. At one point in the match he shot a long rail bank and rather than moving the cue ball to a relatively safe position, he played position for a follow-up shot on another object ball leaving me a couple of easy shots if he missed the bank. By the way, he made the bank and ran several more balls after the bank.

Watching this shot, I thought to myself, "Whoops! I think I underestimated this guy's game."

So what kind of events lead you to believe that you may be in trouble in a One Pocket match? Here are a couple that came to my mind as I thought about this question and I invite you to add any that you can think of.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE IN YOUR ONE POCKET MATCH WHEN:

1) You are congratulating yourself on the great break shot you just made only to look up and see that you are frozen to the back of a ball and your opponent has moved two balls so that they are near his pocket.

2) Your opponent makes the Jersey Red shot on you.

3) Two or three of the railbirds offer to make big side bets with you.

4) Your opponent runs 10 and out when giving you 10 to 6.
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At least the guy was kind enough to let you know you were in a bad game. He could have stayed on the stall.

Steven
 
another is when you are saying good shot more than once a game.....and the whole set he never says it you once....:frown:
 
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