New Raffle Site Poll

Where should we consider our new raffle home to be?

  • Lee Peppers

    Votes: 52 53.1%
  • bklynjava

    Votes: 46 46.9%

  • Total voters
    98
  • Poll closed .
Ok Guys this poll was great and thanks for all the support.

I have too many requests for me to just abandon all the work I put into it Im sure everyone understands and is willing to see how it works out I believe I seen more supporters request we leave both sites available and I am in agreement with that as well.

Had it been a Blow it with no real interest, I would just shut it down.
Those of you that asked if you could setup raffles, you are more than welcome to do so.

Those of you that asked about ebay style auctions, Added see the image below.:thumbup:

Either here or there ---> Have Fun Guys!
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billiard_auctions.jpg
 
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Maybe instead of just taken a vote (like we did) maybe we should try out both site and see how "user friendly" each is. Then lets make a decision! Both have put a lot of work in to each and both seems to be getting better by the day!

I would like to thank each of you for the time and effort you have put into your sites to help us to continue having fun. I look forward to trying both.

Gary
 
Were back where we started three days ago.

I guess this poll was a waste of everybodys time.

Again Sir you and I disagree, because 3 days ago we didn't have anywhere to have raffles.
Now we have 2 locations to have our raffles.
I have said since the beginning we should keep both sites up and try them both out.
I like bklynjava's site much better personally, but with give both a try and see what works better.
I feel if people voted just on ease of use and options it would have not been so close.
 
I voted for bklynjava, but I am with Lee on this one... If both sites were going to do raffles, then why did we have this poll? Where is the respect for democracy lol?

I think we (=those who participated in this poll) should all agree (as we did initially) that the raffles will be on the poll winners side, at least for the time being. However, if things don't go well, say in a couple of months, and his site proves to be short of what the job requires, then bklynjava or another board member can have a motion to reconsider another site.

United we stand, divided we fall...
 
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Again Sir you and I disagree, because 3 days ago we didn't have anywhere to have raffles.
Now we have 2 locations to have our raffles.
I have said since the beginning we should keep both sites up and try them both out.
I like bklynjava's site much better personally, but with give both a try and see what works better.
I feel if people voted just on ease of use and options it would have not been so close.

I was refering to AFTER he and I offered our website services.

I feel people voted on a number of things, trust being one of them.
I also beleive that if it was a popularity contest, as stated before, it wouldnt have been as close either.

Regardless, I was under the impression, as was most, that the majority vote ruled in this case.

Just because another website is easier to use doesnt mean its better.
 
I voted for bklynjava, but I am with Lee on this one... If both sites were going to do raffles, then why did we have this poll? Where is the respect for democracy lol?

I think we (=those who participated in this poll) should all agree (as we did initially) that the raffles will be on the poll winners side, at least for the time being. However, if things don't go well, say in a couple of months, and his site proves to be short of what the job requires, then bklynjava or another board member can have a motion to reconsider another site.

United we stand, divided we fall...

I agree with this statement. If people find that my site is difficult to use, let me know, there are other options.
I could also start a vbulletin site just for the raffles linked to my site.
Someone else could host the raffles (as mentioned)

My offer was and still is to help keep the raffle section going.
It wasnt my intention to start a debate on whos site is better.
 
I was refering to AFTER he and I offered our website services.

I feel people voted on a number of things, trust being one of them.
I also beleive that if it was a popularity contest, as stated before, it wouldnt have been as close either.

Regardless, I was under the impression, as was most, that the majority vote ruled in this case.

Just because another website is easier to use doesnt mean its better.

Comparred to how many have been involved with raffles on AZ over the years, there was only a very few people that were involved in the conversation before the poll, during, and after the poll. Even if we all agreed does that mean we have the right to tell everyone else they have to use one of these websites. Someone else could decide today they want to have this option on their site and offer raffles.

Up until the point I saw both of your offers I was talking with a few people about starting our own site where we could host the raffles. Once we saw the offers we deicded not to go forward.

When I was originally talking about these 2 sites I was thinking they would both the same as what we have on AZ. It wasn't until after the poll was started that I realized the differences.

If you could add a Vbulletin option in your website I think we would have the best of both worlds and make everyone happy.
 
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Comparred to how many have been involved with raffles on AZ over the years, there was only a very few people that were involved in the conversation before the poll, during, and after the poll. Even if we all agreed does that mean we have the right to tell everyone else they have to use one of these websites. Someone else could decide today they want to have this option on their site and offer raffles.

Up until the point I saw both of your offers I was talking with a few people about starting our own site where we could host the raffles. Once we saw the offers we deicded not to go forward.

When I was originally talking about these 2 sites I was thinking they would both the same as what we have on AZ.

If you could add a Vbulletin option in your website I think we would have the best of both worlds and make everyone happy.


I understand your point. It really makes no difference to me where the raffles are. In my opinion both sites will get the job done.
I know I will be holding mine on my site.
Until a few people contact me to say that its just too much of a pain in the ass to post them on my site, I cant justify opening a whole new site just because one person says to.
The cost of the forum site isnt much so its absolutely an option.
I have looked into it over the last few days.
There are about a dozen or so members who set up raffles all the time. I would like to get a PM from those guys to hear there opinions. These people know who they are. I would say if you've done more than 10 to 15 raffles you are on that list.
 
I understand your point. It really makes no difference to me where the raffles are. In my opinion both sites will get the job done.
I know I will be holding mine on my site.
Until a few people contact me to say that its just too much of a pain in the ass to post them on my site, I cant justify opening a whole new site just because one person says to.
The cost of the forum site isnt much so its absolutely an option.
I have looked into it over the last few days.
There are about a dozen or so members who set up raffles all the time. I would like to get a PM from those guys to hear there opinions. These people know who they are. I would say if you've done more than 10 to 15 raffles you are on that list.

Since I have only done 8 raffles on AZ I will respect your guidelines and not send you a PM.
I hope everyone that starts raffle threads where ever you start them does well with them.
 
Since I have only done 8 raffles on AZ I will respect your guidelines and not send you a PM.
I hope everyone that starts raffle threads where ever you start them does well with them.

I think Im aware of your position on the subject...:smile:
 
Please vote n which site we will be using, as AZ will no longer allow raffles.

Thanks for your input.

Jon

For those who didn't know...

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=239764

Our choices are...
http://lpcustomcue.com/fr_billiardsforum
site hosted by Lee Peppers http://forums.azbilliards.com/member.php?u=43564

or

http://noobforums.com/forums/
site hosted by bklynjava http://forums.azbilliards.com/member.php?u=70526

If the site is hosted by a known entity then Mr. Barringer can simply repeat the threat using that person's details.

Your best option is to host the site with a foreign webhosting company in a land where they are not compelled to follow American law. Then make sure that the WHOIS is not using anyone's real details and that it is protected from unauthorized viewing.

Raffles are illegal in every State in the USA. So if you choose to set up a website dedicated only to them which is based in the USA you are certainly painting a large target for a known adversary to exploit.

Also this would be a great time for the raffle community to explore how to handle those who defraud the raffle ticket buyers with bad product. Not having the veneer of AZB's reputation system removes a thin layer of protection.
 
I have added an external forum to my website.

http://lpcustomcues.forumotion.com/

Its not vbulletin, but it wont cost you anything to post your raffles there.

Let me know if this will be acceptable.

It looks like it will do everything everybody wanted, especially editing posts.

There are three raffles running on my old raffle forum. If you want to move them to the new site, please do so.

All persons wanting to run a raffle and/or choose spots will have to register on the new site.
Sorry about that. It wont move again unless there is a problem. You dont have to register on my site anylonger.

Also... please sign into the new forum with the same user name as you use here on AZ.
 
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I have added an external forum to my website.

http://lpcustomcues.forumotion.com/

Its not vbulletin, but it wont cost you anything to post your raffles there.

Let me know if this will be acceptable.

It looks like it will do everything everybody wanted, especially editing posts.

There are three raffles running on my old raffle forum. If you want to move them to the new site, please do so.

All persons wanting to run a raffle and/or choose spots will have to register on the new site.
Sorry about that. It wont move again unless there is a problem. You dont have to register on my site anylonger.

Also... please sign into the new forum with the same user name as you use here on AZ.

Thanks Lee, I registered for your new site and it states "you cannot reply to topics in this forum". Did I do something wrong when I signed up? Is there a grace periond before a new person can post? Or maybe the username boradriver was black flagged? LOL
 
Thanks Lee, I registered for your new site and it states "you cannot reply to topics in this forum". Did I do something wrong when I signed up? Is there a grace periond before a new person can post? Or maybe the username boradriver was black flagged? LOL

Your definitely not black flagged.
I just looked at your profile and I dont see anything wrong.
Please try again.
 
Your definitely not black flagged.
I just looked at your profile and I dont see anything wrong.
Please try again.

I logged out and logged back in and everything is good.

I was only kidding about the black flag part.

Thanks for your efforts on this matter and I will post a raffle as soon as I have something worthy.
 
I like both sites being up and running, competition is a good thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Mike
 
I like both sites being up and running, competition is a good thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Mike

I don't see this as a competition.
There was a poll and my site was picked. I am now making strides to make it as user friendly as possible. I really have nothing to gain by doing this other than helping AZ members have a safe site to post raffles.

My new external site is up and running. There are two sites on my old forum site and two on the new one.

http://lpcustomcues.forumotion.com/
 
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