Pool Action in LA Sucks, here is one day last week...

Let's get back to discussing Fatboy's finances. That's far more interesting. I often have dreams of wheel barrels full of money, but when I wake up there's only a little tin cup by my bed with some loose change in it. What do you think my problem is oh great gurus? :help:

You need to stop relying on the teeth falling out of your head naturally. Man up, get some pliers and get to work. The cup will be overfilling in no time:smile:
 
Why would a smart bettor not back pool players?

Gosh, can't think of a single reason.

Thanks

Kevin

Oh wait, here's one (that doesn't start with "dump") - maybe he gets his juice from betting on himself? There are some guys like that.

OK sorry for the brief distraction. Lets return this thread to telling FatBoy2 what's wrong with him and how he can be more like us.


laying 2-1 and fading dumps is a fast way to get broke.


Its not whats wrong with me, its why everyone would love to trade bank accounts with me(down deep thats the real reason).


for some reason i'm held to a different standard than others, i get pissed but am not allowed to ***** about it because I have $$$, Thats the dumbest thing ever. All I had is what was in my pocket that day, all i wanted to do was get it bet. is that bad? I dont have a gambling problem-hell i lived in vegas for 20 years and still do-i dont gamble in those joints, play poker.
 
One thing I don't understand about all this kerfuffle (OK, maybe there are a couple more): I know enough people in the pool world that if I'm going to be somewhere, *anywhere* in this country, I can make a couple of calls and have action waiting for me, at whatever rate I'm willing to go-off, er, play for. I am going to assume that FB knows at least as many people, if not more.

So why the beef about local action? If you drop in out of the blue, we all know you may come up dry, especially at the higher elevations :-)

I was in LA a few months back, didn't tell anyone, and didn't get any action. Of course I don't bet at the rates FB likes, but, just because I didn't get matched up, isn't reason enough to gripe about how bad the action is -- times are tough for a whole lot of reasons we all know about. But if I had made any effort at all I could have had guys waiting in line to steal, er, gamble with me.

So, I don't get this particular part -- why not call someone and set something up?

Lou Figueroa
 
i'm not talking about big action like $10,000 sets. But its impossible to find $200-$1000 action. The economy was in the shitter in the 70's and there was action. People just go no balls anymore, that is what it boils down to. Look at the guys jumping up to play me-even when i got no prayer and wont flip a coin for $100. they are just looking for easy $$$, they arnt gamblers they are vulchers waiting for someone to get get out of line.

what ever who cares-honestly its a condition of our society that is bigger than me.


later

i dunno about the states, but up here it's pretty easy to find 200 dollar action. 1000 might be harder since everyone tends to bet their own here but 200-300 sets can easily be found.

another thing is that if guys dont know who u are it'll be harder to get a game. so if u just rolled into town, it might be hard for u to get a game right away until guys see u play a bit.

also, while i understand why u wanted to extend the race, i dont see why u feel that ur opponents are idiots for not doing it. the race was what u agreed to before it started. yea it went 8-8 and u dont wanna do a race to 3 but that doesnt mean anything. u both agreed to a race to 11 and thats what was done. the fact that u came out even is irrelevant. u agreed to play 2 sets so obviously there was always the possibility of coming out even. dont complain about it after it happens when u knew this was a possibility before the game started. if u wanted to guarantee a winner, then u probably shoulda just asked for a race to 21 for 5000 or something. they shouldnt have pulled up even but trying to change the game in the middle of the set is a bad move imo.
 
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One thing I don't understand about all this kerfuffle (OK, maybe there are a couple more): I know enough people in the pool world that if I'm going to be somewhere, *anywhere* in this country, I can make a couple of calls and have action waiting for me, at whatever rate I'm willing to go-off, er, play for. I am going to assume that FB knows at least as many people, if not more.

So why the beef about local action? If you drop in out of the blue, we all know you may come up dry, especially at the higher elevations :-)

I was in LA a few months back, didn't tell anyone, and didn't get any action. Of course I don't bet at the rates FB likes, but, just because I didn't get matched up, isn't reason enough to gripe about how bad the action is -- times are tough for a whole lot of reasons we all know about. But if I had made any effort at all I could have had guys waiting in line to steal, er, gamble with me.

So, I don't get this particular part -- why not call someone and set something up?

Lou Figueroa

Good point Lou, and well said. And by the way, I don't blame the local player Fatboy was talking about for not wanting to up the stakes.

When you're out looking for a game, you take what's there or don't play and don't gripe about it. It's not like you're going to find 5k sets everywhere you go.
 
And how'd u get that money Eric. I sure wouldn't hold
My head high

Jay named it.
Not me.

since you seem so interested in counting my $$$, would you like me to get you a pass word so you can look at my bank accounts, and I can get you my tax returns as well. Then you can count my $$ with facts and not guess. Not like you have other shit to do.


Everyone I know with more $$$ than me all have one similar trait, none of them count other peoples $$$, they count their own. I model myself after them, I dont belittle them. Think rich get rich. Thats what I did. Jealousy is a path to poverty. I admire those who do better than me and i look to see how I can tighten up my game to be like them. I dont count their $$, If they say what they spent on something I might remember it, but its not my biz.

Another thing with the wealthy people iI know is they are positive minded, in all aspects of life(most of the time). they are into personal growth, learning, and dont knock others.


you dont know about this, its clear in all of your posts.


I heard a song the other day the hook in in it was this:

"you go do what you have to do, were gonna do what we want to do"

I like that line, there are a few more I know:

"If your so smart, how come you aint rich"

I will say this all the guys I know who are 9 figures or bigger are smarter than me. Period. There is a connection between brains and $$$, unless you inherit it(then you can be dumb as a box of rocks). The guys I know who made it big are all triple smart.


The line that got me over the issue's you have(I was like you once long ago, bitter as hell about things), the all time best line:


"In order for you to have things you never had before, you must do things you never done before"


That right there schooled my ass, I changed my attitude about everything, went from negative to positive. from fat to almost skinny(I had 4 abs) and from broke to not broke. from no girl to a great girl. VW Van to what ever I wanted.

just sayin'


later

E
 
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Good point Lou, and well said. And by the way, I don't blame the local player Fatboy was talking about for not wanting to up the stakes.

When you're out looking for a game, you take what's there or don't play and don't gripe about it. It's not like you're going to find 5k sets everywhere you go.


Excellent point. And I mean really, you're not at Buckingham Palace engaging The Royals: you're in a pool hall playing with pool players.

I am actually pleasantly shocked if all goes as planned :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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And how'd u get that money Eric. I sure wouldn't hold
My head high

How did Eric get rich? That's a good question. I want to be rich.

Fatboy,

Why don't you give back to the pool community you love by offering some free workshops on how to make money?

Thanks in advance,
Mark
 
How did Eric get rich? That's a good question. I want to be rich.

Fatboy,

Why don't you give back to the pool community you love by offering some free workshops on how to make money?

Thanks in advance,
Mark


there are many rumors about me being a fraud on the internet, i was investigated by the FTC in 98, signed a consent decree and paid a $5,000 fine, I operated a business under the terms of that decree for 10 more years, had a annual compliance review, never violated it once. If I did I would have lost everything per the terms of the order I was under. I had 1 complaint for every 1,000 customers. Problem is I had over a million customers so there were lots of complaints. I mailed 440,000 solications/week, that created lots of people to go online and say negitive things like "I never heard of them so they must not be real", that kind of "noise" was prevalent online, especially back then because there was less computer users, therefore we were a bigger % of the content online. Every year our presence online got smaller because the internet was growing and we were not.

We closed the business because it was no longer profitable, we were not shut down. We didnt catch a beef afterwards.

As big as we were and easy to get if we did anything illegal the Govt would have swooped in and took all the $$ away, I know a guy who got 30 years Fed time for doing a business similar to ours. The difference was he didnt have the proper disclosures for the customers to read. And he caught a beef, what he did was illegal. He over stated what his product was and mislead 1000's of people, we had millions of customers from 96-08-I would have got life without, if I did anything wrong.



I dont give a rats ass what anyone says about me, Its all noise, the proof is in the puddin' I'm free as a bird and kept ALL my $$$ except for my tax's. People just cant stand it so they knock it. Stupid is as stupid does.



Go to FTC.gov and type in my name

Eric A Petersen

And read all about it, it was over 10 years before we closed up shop, never got in trouble again. How could I possibly have operated a criminal empire that long? If I was. Furthermore why aint I in jail? All my assets are in my name, not some off-shore thing. If I was stealing $$$ and ripping and tearing, you wouldnt see 25cents in my name I would have handled my $$$ like a dope dealer, on the down low. I didnt I paid taxes and bought real estate in my name.

from 93-earily 96 I did do some scam telemarketing, but it wasnt a scam until July 95, before then it was legal, the TSR Telemarketing Sales Rule was implemented in 7/95 making what I did illegal. So I was illegal from 7-95 until about april 96. I didnt get caught and I scammed less than $200,000. In the legal business under the consent decree I did just $700,000,000 in sales.


Does anyone here really think that in a 12.5 year run and just under $700,000,000 in gross deposited $$$. I could get away 100% clean if I was up to some shady shit? if your dumb enough to think I could sit in the same spot for 12 years grab $700,000,000 and not be legal, you really need to think about the facts.


I aint proud of the $200,000. But the $700M I'll stand behind any day.


So you decide, for yourself.

best

Fatboy


and that aint shit compared to whats up next. the 2nd round should put that much in my bank account in my name.
 
U must have ate your wheaties to tote that much weight in one pocket..ha ha I know a ton of ppl servin 10-20 year federal sentences for not even breaking a 20 thousand a year....If this man was makin this kinda loot on the black market he wouldnt be seeing a keyboard until he was reincarnated..ha ha the man made a killin and I salute him for it...

If u dont have it..U will never get it by looking at someone and talking about it..Look and listen..Look and Learn..Is the key...Looking and hating will just keep u broke...Peaceee....
 
...My point is this. Action feeds on itself, and because there has been so little $1000 action here in LA these guys are scared to lose because they dont know when they are going to have a shot at winning it back somewhere else. Thats why the $20-$40 one hole is alive and well-its always there...

If you get bored waiting for some big time action, Danny Shades in Santa Monica wants you to know you get 9/6 @ $200/game one hole.
 
That's odd Eric.

I asked howd you get that money

You replied that your assets were never frozen and no wrong doing. Sounds like a guilty conscience to me.

And the sad thing about forums is you can edit (even though I edit sometimes) you had previously posted you were sorry for what you did and it was wrong and people embraced you for admitting it. Now you're calling all those people schmucks and liars right?

fir the 100000th time, i never was in trouble, never had my assets froze or taken away, no wrong doings.
 
Nah, no need to go to FTC.gov, try looking up your company and the complaints 1 per 1k customers or whatever, look at what those people had to say about you, and they say that only a very small percentage actually complains online or to someone other than their family and friends.


there are many rumors about me being a fraud on the internet, i was investigated by the FTC in 98, signed a consent decree and paid a $5,000 fine, I operated a business under the terms of that decree for 10 more years, had a annual compliance review, never violated it once. If I did I would have lost everything per the terms of the order I was under. I had 1 complaint for every 1,000 customers. Problem is I had over a million customers so there were lots of complaints. I mailed 440,000 solications/week, that created lots of people to go online and say negitive things like "I never heard of them so they must not be real", that kind of "noise" was prevalent online, especially back then because there was less computer users, therefore we were a bigger % of the content online. Every year our presence online got smaller because the internet was growing and we were not.

We closed the business because it was no longer profitable, we were not shut down. We didnt catch a beef afterwards.

As big as we were and easy to get if we did anything illegal the Govt would have swooped in and took all the $$ away, I know a guy who got 30 years Fed time for doing a business similar to ours. The difference was he didnt have the proper disclosures for the customers to read. And he caught a beef, what he did was illegal. He over stated what his product was and mislead 1000's of people, we had millions of customers from 96-08-I would have got life without, if I did anything wrong.



I dont give a rats ass what anyone says about me, Its all noise, the proof is in the puddin' I'm free as a bird and kept ALL my $$$ except for my tax's. People just cant stand it so they knock it. Stupid is as stupid does.



Go to FTC.gov and type in my name

Eric A Petersen

And read all about it, it was over 10 years before we closed up shop, never got in trouble again. How could I possibly have operated a criminal empire that long? If I was. Furthermore why aint I in jail? All my assets are in my name, not some off-shore thing. If I was stealing $$$ and ripping and tearing, you wouldnt see 25cents in my name I would have handled my $$$ like a dope dealer, on the down low. I didnt I paid taxes and bought real estate in my name.

from 93-earily 96 I did do some scam telemarketing, but it wasnt a scam until July 95, before then it was legal, the TSR Telemarketing Sales Rule was implemented in 7/95 making what I did illegal. So I was illegal from 7-95 until about april 96. I didnt get caught and I scammed less than $200,000. In the legal business under the consent decree I did just $700,000,000 in sales.


Does anyone here really think that in a 12.5 year run and just under $700,000,000 in gross deposited $$$. I could get away 100% clean if I was up to some shady shit? if your dumb enough to think I could sit in the same spot for 12 years grab $700,000,000 and not be legal, you really need to think about the facts.


I aint proud of the $200,000. But the $700M I'll stand behind any day.


So you decide, for yourself.

best

Fatboy


and that aint shit compared to whats up next. the 2nd round should put that much in my bank account in my name.
 
Nah, no need to go to FTC.gov, try looking up your company and the complaints 1 per 1k customers or whatever, look at what those people had to say about you, and they say that only a very small percentage actually complains online or to someone other than their family and friends.

As far as i'm concerned, it you are successful in America, you are probably screwing a lot of people over, very badly too. That is just how it is, for better or worse. Note: i'm not saying anything bad about fatboy, i'm just saying even if he did happen to do some nefarious things, well, almost all businessmen who succeed do. If you don't believe that, I think you are fooling yourself. For every billionaire there are 10 thousand people working for peanuts a day in a hot factory somewhere. I'm not really complaining, just pointing out what i think are facts. There is no way you can be competetive if you don't have this type of attitude. If the guy made money in the US, and he's not in jail, the more power to him -- he did something most could not.
 
One thing I don't understand about all this kerfuffle (OK, maybe there are a couple more): I know enough people in the pool world that if I'm going to be somewhere, *anywhere* in this country, I can make a couple of calls and have action waiting for me, at whatever rate I'm willing to go-off, er, play for. I am going to assume that FB knows at least as many people, if not more.

So why the beef about local action? If you drop in out of the blue, we all know you may come up dry, especially at the higher elevations :-)

I was in LA a few months back, didn't tell anyone, and didn't get any action. Of course I don't bet at the rates FB likes, but, just because I didn't get matched up, isn't reason enough to gripe about how bad the action is -- times are tough for a whole lot of reasons we all know about. But if I had made any effort at all I could have had guys waiting in line to steal, er, gamble with me.

So, I don't get this particular part -- why not call someone and set something up?

Lou Figueroa

A good action player knows how to get played. He can step into any joint and get someting going with his charisma and gift of gab. Either you got it or you ain't. ;)

Not everybody can be as suave and debonair as you, Lou! :p
 

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U must have ate your wheaties to tote that much weight in one pocket..ha ha I know a ton of ppl servin 10-20 year federal sentences for not even breaking a 20 thousand a year....If this man was makin this kinda loot on the black market he wouldnt be seeing a keyboard until he was reincarnated..ha ha the man made a killin and I salute him for it...

If u dont have it..U will never get it by looking at someone and talking about it..Look and listen..Look and Learn..Is the key...Looking and hating will just keep u broke...Peaceee....

Dave,

I'm not sure who you are talking to but I honestly was wondering how Eric made his money. I always thought he was in the construction market for some reason.

I am considered not poor and not rich...right in the middle. And the middle is shrinking. In twenty years from not there will be no middle.

I'm not sure that all of the hard work and sacrific I have made will end up being worth it in the end. I've been stuck on the technical / sales side for all of my career.
 
Nah, no need to go to FTC.gov, try looking up your company and the complaints 1 per 1k customers or whatever, look at what those people had to say about you, and they say that only a very small percentage actually complains online or to someone other than their family and friends.


there was no basis to what they said, 99% for the time,

it went like this:

Person1 "I heard they area scam,"

Person2"Yeah me as well"

Person3"Well then they are a scam"


Person 145345"Boy am I glad I found this site, of I would have fell for the scam"



It was feeding on itself and the opinions were never based on any factual evidence of wrong doings.
 
A good action player knows how to get played. He can step into any joint and get someting going with his charisma and gift of gab. Either you got it or you ain't. ;)

Not everybody can be as suave and debonair as you, Lou! :p


I got more gab than game, Priblem is there aint no action joints, see post #1,

Sadly I all I got is gab, thats why I was a great telemarketer.


Arm wrestler starting shit:

Yeah I do have a guilty conscience for the scamming I did 17 years ago. The guys I worked with all do now, we hurt lots of ppl, I mean real bad too. Thats why I go out of my way to be nice to people give shit away to strangers, like cues, $$, etc. I aint a sucker but I do thing like that to somehow make it right in my mind, I cant fix what i destroyed-all the customers we scammed are dead from old age now. I aint proud of it,


I played a kid once who asked me to play 2 $50 sets, I won both easy, then one game for $30 as I recall, perhaps $20, it was his last $$$. He made the game I just played. I won. he walked out of the pool room, I kept the balls at the table and kept playing. 10 minutes later there is all sorts of panic ooh's and awe's and oh shit's comming from the back door-which was the front door by the counter. He went outside and punched the wall, broke his arrn, the ulna and radius bones and jacked up his wrist real bad. He was better looking than (Pick a movie guy), he was leaving in 2 weeks for a 6 week modeling job in the Carribeian for some big time cloths designer. His arm was in a sling all summer. He asked me to play he lost, broke his arm lost the gig and the $4,000 back in 87 and 6 weeks of fun in the sun. Should I feel bad, and dumped my $$$ to him?
 
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