Secrets!

With my method you can hit a bigger spot on the rail and make the bank.
That's interesting. I look forward to seeing more about it.

I think I remember hearing that you teach some, right? So you probably have a pretty good sense for how easily students pick this technique up?

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That's interesting. I look forward to seeing more about it.

I think I remember hearing that you teach some, right? So you probably have a pretty good sense for how easily students pick this technique up?

pj
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Yes and they ususally catch on to It pretty quick.Most that Is.You ever heard of people that were to smart to learn?LOL I run In to that every now and then.John B.
 
You've only scratched the surface of what's contained on Dave's site. Check out his Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots - undoubtedly the most comprehensive (and most reliably accurate) "intermediate how-to" on pool anywhere. There are lots of sample video clips on his site from that 5-DVD set.

Other great sources are Bob Jewett's "SFBilliards.com" (+ his and Dave's Billiards Digest articles) and Mike Page's YouTube instructional videos (search for "Fargo"). All three of these guys post here regularly. Dave responds to posts here on a daily basis with links to his stuff that apply to the specific topic being discussed.

There's more info available from these three alone than you'll ever digest, 100% of it absolutely reliable.

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VEPS is not public domain. You have to pay some money if you want access to all the gems. Like any good drug dealer Dr. Dave gives some nice free samples on his site.
 
What do you mean,"lay to the hole"? I have never heard of that.

How to make the pocket play big Involves holding the bank IE:shorting It up. It's not always Inside english though.Sometime It's outside english but you would still be holding the ball up and briging It In at a better angle.(making the pocket play as big as you can)
Man your trying to make me just give my secrets away.JK JK lol John B.

I'm going to give you a chance to allow me to take you more seriously. I know you know exactly what I mean. Please don't take any offense...instead, take it as a compliment. (smiley face)
 
VEPS is not public domain. You have to pay some money if you want access to all the gems. Like any good drug dealer Dr. Dave gives some nice free samples on his site.
Everything in it is common public domain info that Dave shares freely all the time - the all-in-one-place convenience and high-quality presentation are worth double the price.

If you did half as much as Dave does for others you'd be known for that rather than for being an internet nutcase.

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SECRETS are FUN!

It is quite apparent that there are SECRETS in the pool world: Information that is kept from others.

Secrets have always been a fun part of life for most people. Holding a secret and/or sharing a secret is supposed to be fun.

Arguing that these pieces of knowledge are not secrets is a pedantic way of viewing things and very sad.

Life is too short to be miserable and pool secrets are meant to be kept and shared. It's even fun to know that there are some who would rather keep a pool secret than to share it. That's what this thread is about, not some pedestal for narrow-minded people to argue about what constitutes a secret.

If you don't think there are any secrets in the pool world, say so and be off with you. There's nothing here for you. Go find some other thread to spread your cancer. This is supposed to be a fun thread about the SECRETS OF POOL.
 
It is quite apparent that there are SECRETS in the pool world: Information that is kept from others.

Secrets have always been a fun part of life for most people. Holding a secret and/or sharing a secret is supposed to be fun.

Arguing that these pieces of knowledge are not secrets is a pedantic way of viewing things and very sad.

Life is too short to be miserable and pool secrets are meant to be kept and shared. It's even fun to know that there are some who would rather keep a pool secret than to share it. That's what this thread is about, not some pedestal for narrow-minded people to argue about what constitutes a secret.

If you don't think there are any secrets in the pool world, say so and be off with you. There's nothing here for you. Go find some other thread to spread your cancer. This is supposed to be a fun thread about the SECRETS OF POOL.

You're having way too much fun Joey, and I'm still not telling. You'll have to ask Effie! ;)
PSSST! It's a SECRET!!! :D
 
Everything in it is common public domain info that Dave shares freely all the time - the all-in-one-place convenience and high-quality presentation are worth double the price.

If you did half as much as Dave does for others you'd be known for that rather than for being an internet nutcase.

pj
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Who is an internet nutcase?
 
That's my guess too (Edit: Oh, I see John says so in another post). Seems to me that it maximizes the amount of estimated adjustments needed for ball and cloth friction, squirt, etc. - but I'm not about to question John Brumback's skill with it.

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That's not even a secret. Everyone banks like that except guys that draws angles to the hole. He said his pockets are an inch larger than other guys pockets.
 
Who is an internet nutcase?
He wasn't referring to you.

..speaking of nut cases...I was watching an 8-ball match years ago and
a friend of mine said to me that he had the game figured...
he said "You hit the low balls with right-hand english and the high balls
with left....and you always shoot the 8 center ball."

the nut case was the guy who overheard and asked him to play..:D
 
Everyone banks like that except guys that draws angles to the hole.
I'm doubting that you know how everyone banks.

[JB] said his pockets are an inch larger than other guys pockets.
Well, no, he didn't. He said "I make the pocket play like It's about 5in". He means he controls the bank angle so that the object ball comes at the pocket from a more favorable angle. This is commonly done to avoid blocking balls - apparently John does it even when there are no blocking balls.

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I'm doubting that you know how everyone banks.


Well, no, he didn't. He said "I make the pocket play like It's about 5in". He means he controls the bank angle so that the object ball comes at the pocket from a more favorable angle. This is commonly done to avoid blocking balls - apparently John does it even when there are no blocking balls.

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I know how Dr. Dave banks. You probably bank like him. I know how Brumback banks. I know I can probably stroke the ball better than 99% of the guys that plays like you, and I still can't hit banks clean yet. Does that make sense? If it dosen't you may be the nutcase.

I know exactly what he means by "opening the pocket", but I was giving him the opportunity to showcase his knowledge. I can care less about being right.
 
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Everything in it is common public domain info that Dave shares freely all the time - the all-in-one-place convenience and high-quality presentation are worth double the price.

If you did half as much as Dave does for others you'd be known for that rather than for being an internet nutcase.

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chgo

So you would be ok with it then if I took the VEPS and put all the videos contained in that set on YouTube and every other video site in the world to make it available to everyone free of charge? Because that is what the public domain is.

Here is a test for you then Professor Pat. On the VEPS there is a little tip for bringing the cue ball through the center of the table. Dave shares this tidbit freely.

The question to you is to show us all WHERE on teh internet or otherwise this information was freely available, i.e. in the public domain, prior to Dave sharing the video?

I will accept any answer that does not require the seeker to provide payment in order to find out this tip.

And yes, I am a nutcase. But I know how to keep a secret, such as what you look like and how you play. Remember you asked me not to show that information to the world and I haven't. I am sure that there are many here who would love to have that be part of the public domain so that they could better categorize the things you have to say.
 
Since Professor Johnson says there are no secrets and that everything one needs to know is at Dr. Dave's website let's have a little thought experiment.

Two rank beginners are each locked in separate rooms for a month. Each has a pool table and cues of exactly the same specifications.

The first player, we will call him Public Domain or PD for short, has access to the internet and can receive all instruction he gets ONLY from the internet. He can read articles, watch YouTube, do video chats etc...

The second player is locked in with 3 world champions and no access to the internet. We will call this player The Rookie or Rook.

At the end of exactly 30 days PD and the Rook match up on TAR playing a round robin of 10 Ball, One Pocket, and Banks for $100,000.

Who do you want to bet on?
 
Since Professor Johnson says there are no secrets and that everything one needs to know is at Dr. Dave's website let's have a little thought experiment.

Two rank beginners are each locked in separate rooms for a month. Each has a pool table and cues of exactly the same specifications.

The first player, we will call him Public Domain or PD for short, has access to the internet and can receive all instruction he gets ONLY from the internet. He can read articles, watch YouTube, do video chats etc...

The second player is locked in with 3 world champions and no access to the internet. We will call this player The Rookie or Rook.

At the end of exactly 30 days PD and the Rook match up on TAR playing a round robin of 10 Ball, One Pocket, and Banks for $100,000.

Who do you want to bet on?

if player A gets some decent mechanics instruction and could by posting a stroke vid online.. I'd say it's a coinflip as to who wins

you can't develop any pro technique in 30 days ..and by giving player b 3 pros you would insure constant contradictions 1 pro would do a better job than 3 IMO

it takes years of dedication and hard work to develop the stroke to pull off even moderate spin shots consistently..
 
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Since Professor Johnson says there are no secrets and that everything one needs to know is at Dr. Dave's website let's have a little thought experiment.

Two rank beginners are each locked in separate rooms for a month. Each has a pool table and cues of exactly the same specifications.

The first player, we will call him Public Domain or PD for short, has access to the internet and can receive all instruction he gets ONLY from the internet. He can read articles, watch YouTube, do video chats etc...

The second player is locked in with 3 world champions and no access to the internet. We will call this player The Rookie or Rook.

At the end of exactly 30 days PD and the Rook match up on TAR playing a round robin of 10 Ball, One Pocket, and Banks for $100,000.

Who do you want to bet on?

Where do you come up with this sh-t man? You're a funny guy John! Who do I think would win? YOU!!!
 
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