Because all the money was spent on $25 chalk.
As bad as I hate to.....
- Thread starter The Renfro
- Start date
Because all the money was spent on $25 chalk.
Me, too. I will stop playing pool before I ever spend that much on a piece of chalk. Some chalk is better than others, no doubt about that, but I don't ever remember missing a shot because of the brand of chalk I was using. Master works just fine for me.
i think the kamui chalk is interesting and perhaps "better" in a technical sense, but for me, it is trying to solve a problem that does not exist - miscuing. all you have to do is maintain your tip well, chalk regularly and have a decent stroke and miscuing will not happen. i can't even remember the last time i miscued in a game. if you have a crap tip and a crap stroke, you can still miscue with the kamui chalk, believe me.
Fast forward almost 20 years and the BK2 is released..... I can play with it and it fits my game.... except for the fact that it is very prone to miscue.......
Renfro, Do you actually play with your BK2...as in besides breaking?
Renfro, Do you actually play with your BK2...as in besides breaking?
HUGE DIFFERENCE... I can sell my cue someday and get my money out of it. It retains value! chalk is used and gone . I have the money...but no way I spend 25 bucks on a cube of chalk
I was curious also and the only reason I ordered a cube was that someone on this forum had said that Kamui chalk didn't leave chalk on the cue ball. And, that was the only thing that I didn't like about Blue Diamond.
My experiences were the same as yours. Went back to using Blue Diamond.
Edit for those who think anyone purchasing Kamui chalk has no common sense:
I'm allergic to Masters chalk. It and many other brands turn my bridge hand red and raw and cracked. Hurts like hell, almost had me giving up the game and it's now the reason I always wash my hands immediately after playing on a public table.
After trying most every other brand of chalk I found that they either affected my hand and/or weren't as good as Masters. Then, I broke down and paid $3.50 per cube for some Blue Diamond probably a couple of years ago. It immediately fixed the problem with my hand and it's now the only chalk I allow used on my home table. Still going strong with the original cube of Blue Diamond in my pocket chalker (so if Kamui had worked for me it would have been an extra buck or two per month of use -- worth it to me if it didn't leave chalk all over the cue ball).
Last edited:
If you have problems with miscueing I can see spending $25 for chalk that would solve your problem. Fortunately for me, I don't have that problem. I use Masters Green and have had perhaps 2 or 3 miscues in the past 6 months. I'm perfectly happy with it and it doesn't mark my cue ball. If you can afford it and it makes you feel good, then by all means go for it. No one should be criticized for the way they spend their hard earned money.
TheThaiger
Banned
My thoughts: horrible speckled colour, nowhere near as 'pastey' as I'd expected - it's really powdery, in fact - and it's small. It works well, however.
I use it as an undercoat - I give all cues a good coating at start of play, and then use BD after every shot. Not sure if there's a great deal of difference doing this, however. Miscueing is a significant problem for me and I THINK I've been miscueing less since using it.
The jury's still out for me, but it's interesting enough to waste $28 on. The biggest issue for me is I LIKE to chalk after every shot. It's therapeutic, and gives me something to do whilst cursing my opponent for taking so damn long after every shot.
I use it as an undercoat - I give all cues a good coating at start of play, and then use BD after every shot. Not sure if there's a great deal of difference doing this, however. Miscueing is a significant problem for me and I THINK I've been miscueing less since using it.
The jury's still out for me, but it's interesting enough to waste $28 on. The biggest issue for me is I LIKE to chalk after every shot. It's therapeutic, and gives me something to do whilst cursing my opponent for taking so damn long after every shot.
Well... if you melted down this chalk an poured it into a shot glass and then poured a shot of Chivas Regal in a shot glass next to it, then looked them both over and pondered the thought ......
I wonder what went into that Chivas Regal to make it worth 8 bucks a shot?
And then pondered, I wonder what when into that chalk to make it worth 28 bucks a cube?
You might start thinking, gee, I'll bet they're both good, but one of these guys seems like a rip off staring me in the face.
Which one do ya figure it is? And do you still patronize the product regardless?
There ain't no way an ounce "o" chalk is worth more than an ounce "o" good scotch. :nono: They be rippin your ass off no matter how good it worked. I'll tell em something... :kma:
I wonder what went into that Chivas Regal to make it worth 8 bucks a shot?
And then pondered, I wonder what when into that chalk to make it worth 28 bucks a cube?
You might start thinking, gee, I'll bet they're both good, but one of these guys seems like a rip off staring me in the face.
Which one do ya figure it is? And do you still patronize the product regardless?
There ain't no way an ounce "o" chalk is worth more than an ounce "o" good scotch. :nono: They be rippin your ass off no matter how good it worked. I'll tell em something... :kma:
TheThaiger
Banned
Christ, you had me agreeing with you until i realised it was the chalk you were saying was the rip off. $8 for a mediocre whisky? Yikes.
And a big part of the booze price are taxes. Johnnyt
:rotflmao1:
I was thinking a similar thing. For $28, I'll buy a whole damned bottle of Glenlivet, which tastes better than Chivas anyway.
And disposable as the chalk is, it's gonna last a lot longer than the scotch. (this coming from a scotch lover....)
Actually I have tried the chalk through my own experiments I have previously stated this in Post #73of the thread listed below.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=247242&highlight=dr9ball+miscue&page=5
I'm glad you found something that works for you.
I have purchased the Kamui chalk, and in my opinion, it's greatest advantage is that it enables the shooter to put more spin on the cue ball than other chalks, even Blue Diamond(which I also use). But, Kamui is certainly using the "elitist" idea by making it so expensive. I think if it was, say, two dollars more a cube than BD, many of us would be buying and NOT *****ing so much about the cost. But, $25-$28 is def. overpriced, whether you can afford it or not.
The Renfro: I am amazed and impressed that you shoot with a phenolic tip. Kudos for doing your own thing. And I honestly find that intimidating, and probably would not gamble with you based on that fact alone. I will have to try taking a few stroke shots with the phenolic and Kamui just to see what happens.
As for chalk and scotch, Chivas is not good scotch, even if someone really likes the taste. I do believe it is blended, and the best scotches are all single malt(not blended) so that may have been a bad comparison. And everyone who knows scotch knows that Glenfiddich is superior to Glenlivet!:smile
That is in fact a joke, because I love them both. I do actually prefer Glenfiddich though) The 18yr old Glenfiddich is my favorite, and where I live is about $60 a bottle.
And the joke about pool players settling all disputes by a money challenge is hillarious. And true. And in my experience, it is also true that 90% of us are broke. 100% true for me. Because I do stupid sh*t like buy $3500 cues, and $25 chalk. The cue, a Boar, I can at least say is DEFINITELY worth the money though.
In conclusion, if anyone has read this far(and I would not blame anyone for not) this is a great thread. Very entertaining and with some great points.
Braden<-------------whose opinions do not mean squat, but voices them anyway!!:thumbup:
The Renfro: I am amazed and impressed that you shoot with a phenolic tip. Kudos for doing your own thing. And I honestly find that intimidating, and probably would not gamble with you based on that fact alone. I will have to try taking a few stroke shots with the phenolic and Kamui just to see what happens.
As for chalk and scotch, Chivas is not good scotch, even if someone really likes the taste. I do believe it is blended, and the best scotches are all single malt(not blended) so that may have been a bad comparison. And everyone who knows scotch knows that Glenfiddich is superior to Glenlivet!:smile
That is in fact a joke, because I love them both. I do actually prefer Glenfiddich though) The 18yr old Glenfiddich is my favorite, and where I live is about $60 a bottle.And the joke about pool players settling all disputes by a money challenge is hillarious. And true. And in my experience, it is also true that 90% of us are broke. 100% true for me. Because I do stupid sh*t like buy $3500 cues, and $25 chalk. The cue, a Boar, I can at least say is DEFINITELY worth the money though.
In conclusion, if anyone has read this far(and I would not blame anyone for not) this is a great thread. Very entertaining and with some great points.
Braden<-------------whose opinions do not mean squat, but voices them anyway!!:thumbup:
Alright guys...I am convinced. I didn't believe in the Magic Rack until I finally caved and orderd one. Now I think it's the best damn thing ever. No more crappy racks when I play with my girl or my friends.
Well, I'm going to do my best to find a cube of this Kamui Chalk to try out.
But my real concern is with how much cleaner your table stays. My table gets SO dirty so fast from playing with Master chalk. I have to clean the table every 4 hours or so of play. After than my hand starts getting dirty and then the cue starts getting dirty, blah blah blah.
I used to play in pool halls all day and HATED how skanky that tables were and thus how dirty my cue and hands would get after hours of play. I like keeping everything nice and clean and I'm figuring this might make a huge difference in that department.
Anyone notice a substantially cleaner table? It seems like that would be the case.
Well, I'm going to do my best to find a cube of this Kamui Chalk to try out.
But my real concern is with how much cleaner your table stays. My table gets SO dirty so fast from playing with Master chalk. I have to clean the table every 4 hours or so of play. After than my hand starts getting dirty and then the cue starts getting dirty, blah blah blah.
I used to play in pool halls all day and HATED how skanky that tables were and thus how dirty my cue and hands would get after hours of play. I like keeping everything nice and clean and I'm figuring this might make a huge difference in that department.
Anyone notice a substantially cleaner table? It seems like that would be the case.
Laserbrn,
The guy I purchased my piece of Kamui from only sold it because he did not like what the chalk was doing to his table. I cannot state this for myself, but I wanted to relay the information to you so you had it in advance. Good luck and I hope this helps.
Braden
The guy I purchased my piece of Kamui from only sold it because he did not like what the chalk was doing to his table. I cannot state this for myself, but I wanted to relay the information to you so you had it in advance. Good luck and I hope this helps.
Braden
My wife bought me a cube at $32 off of e-bay. I love it, will buy some more soon.
Too bad the biggest advocate for some of the other newer/controversial products on here is so f*cking annoying and unprofessional, I might try them too.
Too bad the biggest advocate for some of the other newer/controversial products on here is so f*cking annoying and unprofessional, I might try them too.
Oh, and I have a very nice, well maintained table at home. I clean the table and balls regularly before I got Kamui chalk, and will continue to do so. So I don't give a sh*t if it is a little more messy. The only thing I noticed was the contact marks on the cue ball, which I can wipe with a towel before each break and it doesn't matter.