cutting hardwood

JerseyBill

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I'm aware of the consequences of buying maple shaftwood that isn't quarter sawn, BUT, I'm not certain the same applies to ebony, cocabola, rosewood, curly, and birdseye for butts and a host of other hardwoods. Please let me know your opinions if you think it's necessary to cut all hardwoods QUARTER Sawn?
thanks, for answering what may be a silly question, but not to me...
Bill
 
I'm aware of the consequences of buying maple shaftwood that isn't quarter sawn, BUT, I'm not certain the same applies to ebony, cocabola, rosewood, curly, and birdseye for butts and a host of other hardwoods. Please let me know your opinions if you think it's necessary to cut all hardwoods QUARTER Sawn?
thanks, for answering what may be a silly question, but not to me...
Bill

No, as long as they are straight grain and dry for me.
 
What does quarter sawn mean? Ive heard that term before, but I never knew what it meant.

Joe
 
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I'm aware of the consequences of buying maple shaftwood that isn't quarter sawn, BUT, I'm not certain the same applies to ebony, cocabola, rosewood, curly, and birdseye for butts and a host of other hardwoods. Please let me know your opinions if you think it's necessary to cut all hardwoods QUARTER Sawn?
thanks, for answering what may be a silly question, but not to me...
Bill

It depends on price to me. If I buy boards to resaw, I buy quarter or rift sawn boards mostly. Every time I have purchased plane sawn boards, there has been more unusable waste. When I am buying heavily figured woods, I look for quarter sawn stock as it usually represents more of the attractive wood grain on the face and makes selecting the boards easier.

It has a lot to do with who is keeping the waste, the sawyer or me. If the sawyer is pricing his wood based on that, it doesn't matter nearly as much.
 
Dowel and kind of sawed wood

ANd one cannot tell if it were ever quarter sawed, rift sawed, flat sawed, or whittled with a pocket knife! Just make sure the grain runs straight through the length of the dowel and it is all good baby ! A square or rectangular plank will stay straighter and be less likely to cup if it is quarter or rift sawed, but once it is in dowel form, the stresses in that dowel are what they are, no matter how it was first cut. Can a dowel warp? Yepp, one never knows where the tension is in a piece of wood until we cut it and let it rest to see what happens. But a quarter sawed piece of wood can warp too, it is just less likely too.
I would like to suggest that the best wood preparation is to cut a log into three foot sections, then split it, following the grain, use these planks and trim them along the same grain they split under, and make ones dowels from that, perfect straight grain, but a tremendous amount of labor and wasted wood. A friend of mine, that is truly a master carpenter, suggested that to me some years ago. Not very practical, but he still makes cabinets with hand cut dovetails, and dowel construction, no nails, so maybe he has a unique agenda? Just some words for thought, not looking to start any wars.
 
The difference between q-sawn & f-sawn wood in dowel form is what condition the wood was when it was dried. If it was flat sawn & dried as lumber, then cut into squares & doweled, it won't matter how straight the grain is. The stress is there. Likewise, if it's quarter sawn & dried before cutting into squares, then it'll have much less stress. Either way, the lumber needs to be stress relieved to relax case hardening before cutting into squares or it'll have uneven stress. Unless you are a sawyer & kiln operator, you probably shouldn't concern yourself with it. If you are cutting shafts from lumber, there's a few questions you should ask. Otherwise, buy shafts from numerous suppliers & make note of who's wood stays the straightest overall, and stick to that supplier. Not all shafts are created equal. The milling & especially drying process make all the difference.
 
quarter sawn

Thanks guys, I've learned a few things, of course I have learned that wood is a subject you can probably study for a long time.\
Bill
 
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