Anybody switch between lds and conventional?

I break with a conventional, and play with a 314-1. Every so often I forget and play a few strokes with my break cue. If I shoot softly and use little english, it is not so bad. Otherwise it is enough different that shots are missed easily.
 
Yup, or did - now just play with conventional. Strangely, I feel I don't need to adjust for deflection once I've got used to it. Not sure why.
 
Switching between LDs and conventional shafts

THE FLASH said:
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I've had several "conventional" shafts (Joss, Pech, MO), that were tapered very similarly to the 314-1 (my fav), and close to the same weight. Even with different tips, after a game or two I found it difficult to tell one shaft from the others, including the 314.
I currently care for four 314s and one pre-314 Pred. They have Moori Ms and a Kamui Blk H. My other playing shaft is a Pechauer with an Emerald tip.

Donny L
BCA/ACS Instructor
Gainesville, Fl
 
I do. I get confused from the start but it would take me a few racks to get used to it. No wonder I always lost in tournaments! :(
 
I do for training!
Explain:
I play with 314-2 with ultraskin. Love it. Lot of confidence. But! Is too much forgiving!
So every now and than, I play some game( practice only) with my original maple shaft, to straighten my shoot! Same with some random bar cue, to get used to use less or no English for position!
After, when I get back to 314, life is easier! ;-)

My little secret!

Some time use to practice with breaking cue (phenolic) !!! Tough!! But useful!

My 2 cents.
 
I tried the LD shaft and really didn't care for it. I went back to maple. Just goes to show you different strokes for different folks. With that said, I may learn to like it if I were to use it for 6 months, but I'm perfectly happy with my maple shaft.
 
swisslife77 said:
I do for training!
Explain:
I play with 314-2 with ultraskin. Love it. Lot of confidence. But! Is too much forgiving!
So every now and than, I play some game( practice only) with my original maple shaft, to straighten my shoot! Same with some random bar cue, to get used to use less or no English for position!
After, when I get back to 314, life is easier! ;-)

My little secret!

Some time use to practice with breaking cue (phenolic) !!! Tough!! But useful!

My 2 cents.
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When you mention getting used to less or no english....your comment is worth WAY more than 2 cents.

My observation is that the less skilled players use WAY too much english most of the time.

Pros tend to be much more precise in getting correct position such that they don't need much...if any...english to get on the next shot.

So, while there are advantages to LD shafts (I use one) I think a negative might well be the temptation to use more english than is necessary.

On the other hand, since most players are just FLAT going to use more english than they should...sometmes because they don't know they are and sometimes because they HAVE to to get pos....an LD shaft may well save quite a few shots that otherwise would miss.

EagleMan
 
LD / laminated LD

I dont like the way a LD shaft sounds.

I have had warranty problems on few laminated Ld shafts.

I dont stock the special ferrules that most LD shafts require.

I have owned a few. but I am hooked on solid maple shafts .

MMike
 
I have had many pros tell me that you need to give it time with an LD shaft. I for one have tried them all and I always go back to my original shafts. Once you understand front-hand english and back-hand english, there is really no need for an LD shaft. I was playing league one night about 2 years ago and I just decided right before my match that it was time to switch back to my original shaft from a 314-2. I proceeded to break and run 5 racks with ease. It varies from person to person though. Some people prefer to have a low deflection shaft and some don't. Its all in what makes you feel comfortable at the table. Hope this helps a little!
 
Switching shafts or cues is one of the worst habits you can develop.

Some people claim they can play to the subtle differences, like use a certain shaft for certain heavy deflection shots. They're deluding themselves.

Pick one shaft and stick to it. Switching cripples your consistency, changing how you aim and where you hit the cue ball. It will only hurt you in the long run. In fact, if you care more about your performance than about equipment, don't buy a new cue or shaft every few years. Figure out what you like in a cue and then stick to it as long as possible. Make it an extension of your arm.
 
I can switch between my Varney with ld and my Dishaw with standard and not have too much problem. I should note, however, that my Varney shafts are not laminated. Though I like the ld shafts, I seem to often have too much cue ball movement when using them. I think I'm more accurate as far as pocketing goes with the ld.
 
Totally agree!! I was a prime example of someone who did this and suffered for it. Good post.

CreeDo said:
Switching shafts or cues is one of the worst habits you can develop.

Some people claim they can play to the subtle differences, like use a certain shaft for certain heavy deflection shots. They're deluding themselves.

Pick one shaft and stick to it. Switching cripples your consistency, changing how you aim and where you hit the cue ball. It will only hurt you in the long run. In fact, if you care more about your performance than about equipment, don't buy a new cue or shaft every few years. Figure out what you like in a cue and then stick to it as long as possible. Make it an extension of your arm.
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CreeDo said:
Switching shafts or cues is one of the worst habits you can develop.

Some people claim they can play to the subtle differences, like use a certain shaft for certain heavy deflection shots. They're deluding themselves.

Pick one shaft and stick to it. Switching cripples your consistency, changing how you aim and where you hit the cue ball. It will only hurt you in the long run. In fact, if you care more about your performance than about equipment, don't buy a new cue or shaft every few years. Figure out what you like in a cue and then stick to it as long as possible. Make it an extension of your arm.
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I like this post and couldn't agree more. I see people all the time that have multiple cues and shafts and try to switch it up and wonder why they can't make a ball! I have one playing cue with a couple of shafts but only one gets used and the others will get played only when the main player is out of commission.
 
Taper

I have found that for ME...the TAPER actually affects me more that whether the cue is laminated or not. I like a long narrow 12-14" pro taper...like my pred 314-1 shafts have. Any maple cue wih that same taper, feels good to me, although I will still miss shots due to miscalculation of squirt :cool:
 
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