i noticed svb, corteza, and a few others aim 1 tip low and left on alot of straight in shots then come back to center on the final stroke. bustamante does it to the extreme on all shots. i stood right behind svb at derby and watched him do it and can see it clearly from online videos. any idea on whats going on? tks
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One reason to address the cue ball at the bottom is to find the center of the ball. Some people find centering easier to do at the bottom. I know one player who does it at the top of the ball, and it looks really strange. Many and I think most top players address the cue ball where they're going to hit it and that is really a much, much easier way for a beginner to learn.
I don't think any "left" is involved, though. As I recall, the only player who is off-center when addressing the ball is Bustamante, and his tip is to the right of the cue ball and down on the cloth.
Offsetting from the vertical axis and pivoting to center is an aiming technique.
Anytime you start from an offset position and pivot to center (as opposed to starting from center to begin with), it's an aiming technique rather than sighting technique.
Bustamante is usually on the left side of the ball, not the right. Another player who pivots in this manner is Josh Brothers. Watch any of his youtube videos and you'll see it on every shot.
Anytime you start from an offset position and pivot to center (as opposed to starting from center to begin with), it's an aiming technique rather than sighting technique.
Bustamante is usually on the left side of the ball, not the right. Another player who pivots in this manner is Josh Brothers. Watch any of his youtube videos and you'll see it on every shot.
Helping english?
If the final pivot position is center ball...it has nothing to do with english and everything to do with ball pocketing.
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Not at all. Pocket side would be inside English.
The offset is the start before the pivot to center cue ball.
randyg
Hi Randy 
Happy New Year first!
So now just for my understanding- so "offset" means in this case like for example Stan recommends it in his video (kind of air pivoting into the shot)- So that you "come into your shot* from both sides (depending where the cueballposition is) - is this what you mean to come from the pocketside (opposite) of the cueball *into your shot* ?
lg
Ingo
Happy New Year first!
So now just for my understanding- so "offset" means in this case like for example Stan recommends it in his video (kind of air pivoting into the shot)- So that you "come into your shot* from both sides (depending where the cueballposition is) - is this what you mean to come from the pocketside (opposite) of the cueball *into your shot* ?
lg
Ingo
svb
what i seen is them addressing the ball near 1 tip left then on delivery stroke into center. corteza and svb do it for sure. chris bartrum does this to more an extreme along with bustamante. it caught my eye at DCC last year and confirmed it watching youtube matches. just curious what they are doing. tks, greg
Hi Randy
Happy New Year first!
So now just for my understanding- so "offset" means in this case like for example Stan recommends it in his video (kind of air pivoting into the shot)- So that you "come into your shot* from both sides (depending where the cueballposition is) - is this what you mean to come from the pocketside (opposite) of the cueball *into your shot* ?
lg
Ingo
what i seen is them addressing the ball near 1 tip left then on delivery stroke into center. corteza and svb do it for sure. chris bartrum does this to more an extreme along with bustamante. it caught my eye at DCC last year and confirmed it watching youtube matches. just curious what they are doing. tks, greg
It's my guess that they use some type of pivot aiming. Not unusual at all and very effective.
randyg
Hi Randy
Happy New Year first!
So now just for my understanding- so "offset" means in this case like for example Stan recommends it in his video (kind of air pivoting into the shot)- So that you "come into your shot* from both sides (depending where the cueballposition is) - is this what you mean to come from the pocketside (opposite) of the cueball *into your shot* ?
lg
Ingo
Both Dave & I are referring to the twin sister of CTE, 90/90 aiming.
I will send you the paperwork.
Happy New Year
randyg
Start at a quarter of the cue ball and calibrate from there. For me that's a full cue tip away from center.
randyg
JE54...For the sake of accuracy, Randy means 3mm or 1/8", which is the equivilent of 1 full tip off center. This is the same thing as the size of the red circle on a red circle CB.
Scott Lee
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Offset distance doesn't matter. There are pros/cons for small pivots versus large ones. I think a large pivot is harder than a smaller one (b/c one can arc poorly); but some people like more runway to ensure a perfect arc.
Hal used to teach a 1/2 ball pivot while using a super small pivot to play with. His offset was very small...about 1/4 tip. His bridge length, however, was also very short (about 6").
Certain bridge lengths force certain offsets depending on your pivot technique.
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Hal used to teach a 1/2 ball pivot while using a super small pivot to play with. His offset was very small...about 1/4 tip. His bridge length, however, was also very short (about 6").
Certain bridge lengths force certain offsets depending on your pivot technique.
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Dave, from what I'm reading, not sure if I'm understranding it correctly. Using 90 90 with Ron's hip swivel, instead of going all the way over to the 90 90 or 90 to center positions. You can just go 1 tip off center just like Stan's 1/2 tip pivot. And swivel to center. Is that correct ?
As long as your cue's initial angle of attack is correct into the CB, you can use any offset with any pivot system. Start with the traditional 90/90 offset (at the 90-position) and pivot until you're 1 tip shy of center. Pay close attention to your cue's angle into the face of the CB. If you wish to use the smaller offset, you must start with that angle of attack into the face of the CB. Hope that makes sense.
Dave