Shane - Best Tournament Performance Ever

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Shane just competed in 3 different disciplines and finished:
2nd in the banks
1st in 1pocket
1st in 9ball.

If he wins, he will be the only person to ever win two events in the same year. This will probably be discussed at a Hall of Fame induction. He is already one of only four who have won them in different years.

How can anyone argue he is not the best American. The scary thing is he is still young and can improve.
 
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With Shane's performance, I'm inclined to believe Shane's got to be one of the best in terms of all-around ability in the WORLD, just behind Efren.
 
Kuroky said:
With Shane's performance, I'm inclined to believe Shane's got to be one of the best in terms of all-around ability in the WORLD, just behind Efren.
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Probably can't say that only because he himself states he does not like straight pool and does not want to play it so you wouldn't be condsidered one of the best all around if not proficient or at least competing in that discipline. But make no mistake, he is my favorite player and I am in no way playing down his ability or accomplishments. I'm sure he would excel at the game he just doesn't like it.
 
iba7467 said:
Shane just competed in 3 different disciplines and finished:
2nd in the banks
1st in 1pocket
1st in 9ball.

If he wins, he will be the only person to ever win two events in the same year. This will probably be discussed at a Hall of Fame induction. He is already one of only four who have won them in different years.

How can anyone argue he is not the best American. The scary thing is he is still young and can improve.
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Well sorry to correct you, but in 2005, Efren won the 1-pocket and the 9-ball, But, i agree, if Shane completes it or even if he doesn't, he's been the most dominating player the last 2 years at the derby for sure, and he's getting better
 
iba7467 said:
Shane just competed in 3 different disciplines and finished:
2nd in the banks
1st in 1pocket
1st in 9ball.

If he wins, he will be the only person to ever win two events in the same year. This will probably be discussed at a Hall of Fame induction. He is already one of only four who have won them in different years.

How can anyone argue he is not the best American. The scary thing is he is still young and can improve.
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What do you mean "if he wins..."

and what do you mean by "one of only folur who have won them in different years." Them what?

Freddie <~~~ watched Efren win two in 2005
 
Its a big deal!

Well this puts him in the conversation as the Best all around and he for sure is the best right now..., Efern, Busta, SVB are all a cut obove the rest!
 
Finals

Shane is the only player to play in all three finals n the same year. One mistake cost Shane something that will probably never be done. To win all three in the same year.

Still the best performance at the Derby by anyone ever!
 
iba7467 said:
Shane just competed in 3 different disciplines and finished:
2nd in the banks
1st in 1pocket
1st in 9ball.

If he wins, he will be the only person to ever win two events in the same year. This will probably be discussed at a Hall of Fame induction. He is already one of only four who have won them in different years.

How can anyone argue he is not the best American. The scary thing is he is still young and can improve.
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Champion. Must be lonely at the top.
 
irock said:
Is he not the best player in the world right now, if not who is?
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There are guys at his level. He is not unbeatable. Bustamante just beat him in the last TAR match. SVB is a great player, no doubt. However, there are guys in his league in terms of the world. I wonder how Corteza or Orcullo would fare against him in a long set.
 
Pleased to have been here at the Derby to witness all nine days of Shane's brilliant performance.

Was it the best tournament performance ever? Maybe, but maybe Luther Lassiter deserves mention here. In 1962, he won both the straight pool and the nine ball events at Johnston City, and, of course, the all around title. Remarkably, he repeated these feats in 1963 and again in 1964 winning two of the three major disciplines at Johnston City three years in a row and also the all around title.

If Shane is all around champion again in 2013 it would be hard to deny that his accomplishments are on a par with those of Lassiter at Johnston City.

We are right to be celebrating one of the greatest ever performances in the history of competitive pool. Well played, Shane!
 
NineBallNut said:
Probably can't say that only because he himself states he does not like straight pool and does not want to play it so you wouldn't be condsidered one of the best all around if not proficient or at least competing in that discipline. But make no mistake, he is my favorite player and I am in no way playing down his ability or accomplishments. I'm sure he would excel at the game he just doesn't like it.
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Give Shane time. After he "sows his oats" in rotation pool and matures, he'll get into 14.1. It's inevitable. All-around greatness (and I mean *real* all-around) doesn't happen until a player reaches the age where proficiency in 14.1 is desirable. That doesn't happen until a player is in his/her 30s and beyond. Efren proved this when in the very first straight pool tourney he entered -- the 1995 Maine Event -- and won it. It's the only game that measures true consistency over the long haul. No other game does this. Not even breaking-running 13 racks in rotation pool -- because 13 of those shots were break shots -- estimation/gamble shots, if you will.

Shane may not "like" 14.1 now, because like all rotation players, he gets the quick satisfaction of "success" after each rack. Give him time to mature. He'll inevitably warm to 14.1, and prove his mettle there.

Darren Appleton warmed to 14.1 very quickly, because Darren's background is not rotation (it's English blackball/8-ball, in fact; another "patterns" game, where the patterns aren't dictated by the numbers on the balls -- because there are no numbers on the balls in English blackball).

I'd love to see Shane play 14.1 -- with his heart into it. I know he'd be great!

-Sean
 
sfleinen said:
... Shane may not "like" 14.1 now, because like all rotation players, he gets the quick satisfaction of "success" after each rack. Give him time to mature. He'll inevitably warm to 14.1, and prove his mettle there. ...
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Sean, I can't remember whether it was the TAR interview or somewhere else that Shane was asked about 14.1, but my recollection of his answer is that he doesn't play it simply because he doesn't see any money in it.

However, I hope that what you said turns out to be correct over time.

I always thought that Buddy Hall, with his great cue ball, could have been one of the best 14.1 players ever. But I guess it never appealed to him. Or maybe it was a money thing with him, too -- spend his time on disciplines with greater prospects of monetary reward.
 
Jay Helfert said during the Accu Stats commentary tonight that Shane had ran 160 balls in 14-1 and felt bad about the low number.- Jay told him that only a few players in the world ran over 160-Leonard
 
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