I can't HELP it.
I know, in that satire, there have been people who said exactly those things. That's what makes it so funny, and crazy at the same time. Furthermore, I also stated I have nothing against aiming systems. I wrote a post saying how I would love for CTE to do what it claims to do. Wouldn't you? Wouldn't it be great for a geometrically sound aiming system to come forth, that utilizes more definitive lines of reference such as ball edges and centers and produces the correct line of aim for pocketing the ball?
It does.
I think so. That would be awesome. It would be the holy grail of aiming.
It would be. It might just be that. Maybe you should learn it and then give us a report.
But there are consequences to that. If that is achieved, then aiming is done. It is conquered. Follow the procedure, get the line of aim. Why do people struggle with it then? Even the biggest supporters and believers are constantly qualifying their statements by saying they work long and hard on it, and the skeptics don't want to put the "time in" ...
Because that is how it is. People who struggle with it don't have it down. That's where the work comes in, also called practice. However once you get it then you don't have to work on it any more. Unless you want to. Sometimes it opens up a whole other world of looking at how to "aim" and that in itself is fun to play with.
The proponents of CTE make claims, that if true, means that they ought to be done with the search for a line of aim, and now be onto perfecting their stroke. In effect, if CTE is what they say it is, CTE doesn't expand the study of aim and cause people to delve into a regimen of practicing it. It does the complete opposite. If it works, it brings an END to having to work on aiming. Thus, those people are now free and unburdened to work on other things, like stroke or mental game.
That's exactly the way it happens. Except for the proponents that already had a great stroke before switching to whatever system they use. It does bring an END to worrying about the shot line. Then the SHOOTER is free to focus on execution.
That's what I tried to get across to a certain somebody, but being that this logic tears apart their position, it just gets ignored.
If you mean me your logic doesn't tear apart anything. You claim that only hard work is what's needed and when someone comes with an aiming system and says flat out that it takes hard work to make it a fluid part of your game you say then that's not much of a system if it requires work to master it. Then you say that system users offer diet pills and down play hard work and get pissed off when you get the instructions and it says in the first line - "be prepared to work hard".
I have said a million times that using an aiming system has FREED me to work on other parts of my game. I have said that using an aiming system has allowed me to play better due to being able to focus on delivery. IGNORED...... personal testimony not allowed.
According to you I am delusional no matter what UNLESS I agree with you. Then I am rational.
Oh well...
What CTE users need is not geometry or mathematics, nor logic. What they need are psychologists. Psychologists to help them cope with the realities that Santa Clause isn't real, nor the Tooth Fairy. It is obvious that there is a strong, strong emotional attachment to CTE by system users. I described a likely reason why. Because of that euphoria and great pleasure derived from success or at least perceived success.
Um, the pool balls don't lie. When you line up on a shot either it goes or it doesn't. Any half decent player knows when they are making more balls or not. They know when they are making tougher shots or not. Maybe you should go into the TV Psychic Business with your willingness to act like you can judge a person's level of self-awareness through the internet.
The strong emotional attachment comes from actual success. Success as measured first by watching balls disappear and then by watching opponents quit and hand you money and finally by topping fields of players you couldn't beat before.
There is such a thing as non-chemical addiction. Habitual addiction. This has been documented as part of the placebo effect. If someone thinks something is helping them, they will fight tooth and nail for it. Regardless of whether it has real benefits or not. They will even argue that the false benefits tricks them into REAL benefits. This is lying to one's self, but some even say they don't care, only results on the table matter.
And apparently you are addicted to constantly tearing PEOPLE down for achieving what you with all your intellect refuse to learn in the real world. You SEEM to desperately want to achieve a moral victory over people who have real world results to stand on. For some reason you want to hold up your own failure to learn as a counterpoint to their success.
That's like saying the SAT test is invalid because you can't score high enough to get into a good college when other people manage just fine.
Personal testimony from those who are successful is not allowed because obviously it's all from delusional lunatics whereas personal testimony from those who didn't get it is from rational and logical people. That makes sense.......
This has been said in the CTE threads in round-about ways, and even overtly in the "Custom Cue Mythology" thread.
Your logic fails in both areas. As I said to you in the cue thread if you want to pick two pro players and bet super large and let me pick your guy's equipment then we can. We can let an independent lab verify that the equipment I choose for you meets the BCA specifications for a cue stick. I promise to bet as much as I can beg borrow and steal.
Trying to have a factual, logical, and civilized dialogue with superstitious addicts who appeal to the irrational is obviously very difficult. Perhaps futile.
And trying to have a discussion about HOW to use a particular system is very difficult when it's constantly polluted by people with a propensity to insult and injecting red-herring falsehoods. Thus you people have torn apart just about every thread on this forum for years because of it.
I have created ANOTHER safe haven to discuss this stuff on another forum:
http://poolcuemarket.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=18
In this forum section aiming will be discussed in terms of how to approach it without the arguing about which method is "better" and which methods really WORKS or not. I promise that flamers are not allowed. If you wan to come and discuss the method in terms of how you tried it and what you don't get then feel free. Any method presented that can't stand up to the ON TABLE scrutiny of the majority of people who try it will be discovered soon enough and that will serve as plenty of warning to all new players who happen to come across it and want to get a REAL review of it.
There will be none of this crappy theoretical nonsense, and make no mistake it IS nonsense from the opening post.
Either you try it or you don't. People who try it can criticize it and have their critique discussed and dissected. People who won't try it and just want to stir the crap will be asked to leave nicely. AZB desires to have long running threads and I assume that these will continue here. It's good for the advertisers to have threads like these.
But it's terrible for the participants. I know from experience that nearly everyone is cool in person. 99% of the insults that we sling would not cross our lips or enter our thoughts were we face to face in the pool room.
So the space I have created is NOT ad-supported and thus like any good poolroom civility will be enforced. Discourse is great. Dissection is great. Making a constantly stream of insults is not.
Stay here if you want to spend an endless amount of time in an endless ARGUMENT. Go to my forum if you want to discuss aiming in a space free of people who don't want you to discuss the actual methods.
I also do not expect to see many of you there and I expect it to be quiet. At their core on the net people love the drama. They relish the "fight" without immediate consequences. I seem to. But unlike bruises which heal the cutting remarks you make about me don't heal so easily, nor I am sure do the ones I make about you.
It is unbelievably NUTS that we are arguing about how to play pool. As if any of us have the right to argue about how to play pool.
Jesus it's just pool.
Don't you all LOVE to play it?
Why beat someone up over how they choose to play it then?
