Learn To Aim Like The Pros!

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JB Cases said:
Sir, fractional aiming is not Ghost Ball Aiming. Fractional aiming is when you aim by overlapping the actual balls on the table to determine the fullness of the hit.

Contact Point aiming is also not Ghost Ball sir. It is known in Snooker as Back of the Ball aiming. Also the contact points are used in Contact Point to Contact Point aiming which is highly accurate and also not Ghost Ball.




Are you not sir? Did you not tell the readers not to waste their money and time on any other methods? I do not want to lose respect for you sir as your 98% success rate in pool is staggering and awesome. But would you please try to achieve that same rate or better with your statements so that we, your fans, don't have to defend inaccuracies.



Excellent advice. And certainly you also mean to say to others that if the aiming method they are using is not working then they should try something else.




Could you provide the names of the pros who use the Ghost Ball method?

The WPA maintains a list of ranked professional players. When you say most I think of a simple majority being 51%. So are you saying that you know for a fact that 51% or more of the world's professional players use the Ghost Ball method of aiming? Can you cite your source on this sir. The readers here would love to have the facts.

I started a thread on this a while back asking for what methods the pros use and in my list the overwhelming majority did not use Ghost Ball. Granted the list was very small as I asked for people to post only what they knew from first hand experience or through published sources.

So sir would you be be so kind as to publish your source that GB is used by most pros?
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Good questions.
 
JB Cases said:
Ghost Ball is so easy to learn that we have a plethora of devices to help anyone wishing to learn it.

Tom Simpson, BCA Master Instructor, invented the Ghost Ball Aim Trainer. http://www.poolclinics.com/

Ironically he now teaches alternative methods of aiming that he considers to be much better than GB.

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The Spider Laser Aim Trainer
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http://www.cuesight.com/spiderlaser.html

Porper GB Trainer -
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Well that's all the time I have now for this but I want to repeat the link for Tom Simpson's website. As the inventor of the Ghost Ball Aim Trainer, which is still a great selling product, Tom's views on aiming now and what he teaches is worth reading about.

http://www.poolclinics.com/
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Tom has good views on aiming.
 
JB Cases said:
Why is that? Mr. Pollak has identified himself many times to us. And for that matter anyone who makes 98% of the "makeable" shots they shoot at deserves to be formally addressed.

Oh.....you mean because of the comments about Mr. Pollak's bragging about being declared legally blind and yet having the ability to make 98% of the makeable shots he takes? I think that he has enough integrity to not take disability payments when he is capable of working. Perhaps the bar for being legally blind is low enough not to affect the ability to accurately imagine balls sitting firmly on the table shot after shot. After all how would one test that?

You can't really measure the ability to "see" something invisible can you? I mean if I said I "see" three balls and always pick the middle one then that would be fine for pool but not for driving a truck. So when someone says that they make 98% of their shots despite being declared blind I have to guess that they are somehow using something besides their vision.

But an impartial observer might not see it that way. They might consider pocket billiards to be a visually demanding activity and consider a 98% success rate to be indicative of incredible visual acuity. I don't want to see Mr. Pollak get into trouble when he is only attempting to help us to become better players. I desire to be one of the 98% and plan to take Mr. Pollak up on his offer to help anyone who has questions. In fact I know many others who would like his help as well. I plan to send them all to Mr. Pollak to take him up on his more-than-generous offer to help anyone who has questions about the Ghost Ball method of aiming.
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You huff and puff all you like but that was bang out of order.
 
JB Cases said:
cfrandy said:
I never had a problem on rail shots! To me, they are no different than any other shot, unless the OB is frozen to the rail. Then you must hit the rail an instant before hitting the OB to compensate for friction.
I believe anyone who does have a problem with rail shots, regardless of their aiming system, is someone who believes rail shots are somehow more difficult!
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Does Dr. Dave confirm your contention that the rail must be hit first when the object ball is frozen?http://billiards.colostate.edu/high_speed_videos/index.html

Apparently Dr. Dave does have video of this - start at 128 and go through to 141. Looks like the shot can be made by hitting the rail first OR the ball first.
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I have lots of resources (videos, articles, illustrations) dealing with rail cuts here:

With no English, and with the frozen OB far from the pocket, you must hit the cushion first to create a slight back cut to compensate for cut-induced throw (CIT).

But this is still ghost-ball aiming, IMO. The ghost-ball position can be chosen to compensate for CIT.

As demonstrated in the videos, with outside or inside English, and when the OB is close to the pocket, all sorts of things are possible with rail cut shots.

Regards,
Dave
 
JoeyInCali said:
It's no good b/c it uses ghost table.:grin:
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I find the Ghost Table system to be quite accurate. Jimmy Reid taught me the double the distance system which works pretty well for kick shots.

In combination with the Ghost Player lining up to the Ghost Ball on the Ghost Table it makes beating the Ghost super easy. I like to imagine it all at once. That is a very high degree of skill to imagine all the Ghost positions at one time. Then I simply assume each position and let the Spirit guide the cue.

Works great.
 
JB Cases said:
I find the Ghost Table system to be quite accurate. Jimmy Reid taught me the double the distance system which works pretty well for kick shots.

In combination with the Ghost Player lining up to the Ghost Ball on the Ghost Table it makes beating the Ghost super easy. I like to imagine it all at once. That is a very high degree of skill to imagine all the Ghost positions at one time. Then I simply assume each position and let the Spirit guide the cue.

Works great.
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you better call ghostbusters! lol

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JB Cases said:
I find the Ghost Table system to be quite accurate. Jimmy Reid taught me the double the distance system which works pretty well for kick shots.

In combination with the Ghost Player lining up to the Ghost Ball on the Ghost Table it makes beating the Ghost super easy. I like to imagine it all at once. That is a very high degree of skill to imagine all the Ghost positions at one time. Then I simply assume each position and let the Spirit guide the cue.

Works great.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLfy...xt=C3b3c799UDOEgsToPDskLaBtUt3mX3B-Wp6LuXr6Qj
Or you could use the center base of the ghost ball with bhe.
You could also pretend to be using twirl and swirl smokescreen but visualize ghost ball center go through the object all the way to the rail.

Oh, what did Mr Wilson say ?
 
JoeyInCali said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLfy...xt=C3b3c799UDOEgsToPDskLaBtUt3mX3B-Wp6LuXr6Qj
Or you could use the center base of the ghost ball with bhe.
You could also pretend to be using twirl and swirl smokescreen but visualize ghost ball center go through the object all the way to the rail.

Oh, what did Mr Wilson say ?
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You don't like the idea of the Ghost Player? In all sports visualization is a solid concept. You should visualize the outcome first and then step into it. So the idea of the Ghost Player seems to me to be the natural extension of the Ghost Ball. Why try to imagine a single ball when you can imagine a whole person perfect lined up? Then you simply assume that Ghost Player position and everything is dead nuts in line.

I am trying to help expand the Ghost Ball system to a much higher level. 98% pocketing is not enough, I want 100%.
 
JB Cases said:
You don't like the idea of the Ghost Player? In all sports visualization is a solid concept. You should visualize the outcome first and then step into it. So the idea of the Ghost Player seems to me to be the natural extension of the Ghost Ball. Why try to imagine a single ball when you can imagine a whole person perfect lined up? Then you simply assume that Ghost Player position and everything is dead nuts in line.

I am trying to help expand the Ghost Ball system to a much higher level. 98% pocketing is not enough, I want 100%.
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I think your on to something, I'll try it later.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Someone is losing it.
Eddie Wheat meltdown coming ?
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Would that be you? Using the Sharpie to make your wood grains now?

All I know is I am liking this Ghost Ball/Ghost Player method. Today I imagined a ghost player running out the rack and I just stepped in and assumed his place and ran out the rack.

You are a genius Joey. This Ghost Disc concept of yours is pure gold.
 
JB Cases said:
Would that be you? Using the Sharpie to make your wood grains now?

All I know is I am liking this Ghost Ball/Ghost Player method. Today I imagined a ghost player running out the rack and I just stepped in and assumed his place and ran out the rack.

You are a genius Joey. This Ghost Disc concept of yours is pure gold.
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You're welcome.
 
duckie said:
How bout a real challenge like this one where you carom the 1 off the 4 into the 5 and the 1 goes in the side. Yepper I've done this shot.

BTW, all these shots are on a 9 ft table, you know where you have to reach at times and the ball layouts are such that you can not use any like what would be considered a normal stance. You know, like the cue behind the back shot.




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can you do this shot with ghost ball?
 
Fractional aiming IS a variation of ghostball aiming. I have support this claim with these resources:
Snooker Tips - Ghostball
Snooker Tips - Line Of Aim
Fractional Aiming
CueTable Ghostball Aiming Software
Allison Fisher's Bat Trainer

During practice, the ghostball is used to determine the fraction of object ball that must be hit to pocket the ball. That is why, in the software and the BAT, there are indicators of the fractions necessary for pocketing the ball. You could also determine the fraction by simply placing the two balls together (object ball and ghostball on the object ball path line and look down the cue ball path line...like I suggested in the very first post. The easiest fraction to determine is a half-ball hit. It is a definitive line! Practice will teach you how to adjust your aim for 3/4 & 1/4 shots. Anyone could begin pocketing balls immediately using this method!

If you wish to debate whether or not Fractional Aiming is a variation of ghostball aiming...I suggest you start your own thread on the subject using your resources. So far I have seen nothing but negative opinions aimed at disrupting this thread! No resources, just opinions!
 
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