No win situation A.P.A.

Shaky1:

I seem to recall this topic came up in another thread (was it you? not sure...). But there is a rare affliction called "familial benign essential tremors" that, of all things, alcohol seems to suppress.

The great snooker player, big Bill Werbeniuk, had this affliction, and he (Bill) was known for consuming staggering amounts of alcohol to be able to play at his level -- around six pints of lager before a match and then one pint for each frame.

However, it was also this same alcohol consumption that ended his life prematurely, at 56 years of age. So the use of alcohol to treat the symptoms of familial benign essential tremors is a double-edged sword.

Personally, I think the right thing to do, is to consult a medical professional. Perhaps schedule a physical exam for yourself (you should be doing this on an annual basis anyway, and most medical plans cover these as part of the plan). While in the physical, inform the physician about your issue, and he/she may either find the root cause right there in the exam (or perhaps later, after blood/urine/stool sample analysis results arrive back to him/her), or may want to schedule some follow-up tests. It is the right thing to do. It could be hiding some underlying affliction or something. But you won't know unless you have a professional look.

Hope this is helpful!
-Sean

If he needs all those samples I'll just throw him my underwear. He might get a semen sample as an added bonus! :D
 
You pretty much summed it up there. Afraid of being exposed? Yes. Afraid that I'm not as good as the rating says? Yes.
Afraid my team mates will hate my guts. Yes.

Shaky1:

Find another team, if that result you describe comes to pass. Medical conditions or afflictions (*if* that's the case) are not to be trifled with, and anyone who puts your performance above and over your health, is not your friend or "team" mate.

Have a professional (physician) take a look. It's time well spent, and will put your mind at ease as to the diagnosis, and the proper course of action.

HTH,
-Sean
 
You pretty much summed it up there. Afraid of being exposed? Yes. Afraid that I'm not as good as the rating says? Yes.
Afraid my team mates will hate my guts. Yes.

If you are on a team that won't support you when you lose, you need a new team. That is one sure fact from all of this.

I think it's healthy to not want to let your team down. I also think it's good that you want to play to your own expectations. I do understand your anxiety about being "exposed"... But ya gotta ask yourself, is it worth it? Am I enjoying myself, and/or meeting my expectations about how I play? If this really bothers you, my suggestion would be to talk to your teammates and tell them "I'm gonna play sober now, and it may affect my game for a while."

I'm no teetotaler, I like to throw back some beers, both while playing and while not. I am not the player you are, skill wise. When I started, I used to think that I played better after having a few. As I've gotten more experience, I've found that not to be true. I may have one light beer, and nurse it over the course of the evening, but other than that, not till the matches are over. It took me a while, and I probably am not nearly in the same situation that you are. But I bet you can do it, if you give it a chance.

I wish you luck with it.
 
Better yet...find another league! It may be the APA format that drives you to drink. Especially when you consider the lower skill level player that you must play next is a sandbagger! It also does not help to sit in a bar for 2-3 hours waiting for your turn to play. What else can you do in a bar for 2-3 hours? Other leagues, like BCA & VNEA, play round robin!
 
I get nervous and tight when i shoot my pool league nights. Ive tried every little suggestion with little results. I too would drink 5 or 6 beers. Then i noticed if drink too much its not good either. Seems to be 2 or 3 beers is about right. My team captain usually puts me up first. That way he figures i havent had chance to drink too much and i havent had a chance yet to get too tight and nervous. Im just a APA 3 or 4 though. Sometimes ill hit a couple hard shots in a row, only to screw up on a simple shot because the nerves come back.
 
I have two suggestions

- Shoot fast. I call this shooting ahead of your nerves. If nerves are getting the best of you sometimes playing in a reactionary way helps because you don't have time to think about what might happen.

- Try taking valerian root. Valerian root is a calming herb which may have the same calming effects of alcohol without the slurring, loud talking, bad dancing and regrets of waking up next to the swamp donkey you swore was a 10 twelve beers ago.
 
I have two suggestions

- Shoot fast. I call this shooting ahead of your nerves. If nerves are getting the best of you sometimes playing in a reactionary way helps because you don't have time to think about what might happen.

- Try taking valerian root. Valerian root is a calming herb which may have the same calming effects of alcohol without the slurring, loud talking, bad dancing and regrets of waking up next to the swamp donkey you swore was a 10 twelve beers ago.

Ha Ha Ha!!!!! Sometimes when I do shoot really fast it does help! I'm headed to the bar tonight and try to play thru the nerves. If I can't, at least it will be cheap. My damn bridge hand fingertips are brush burned from the felt, that's how many shots I have hit at home practicing. Still can't run a rack at home and sober.
 
Better yet...find another league! It may be the APA format that drives you to drink. Especially when you consider the lower skill level player that you must play next is a sandbagger! It also does not help to sit in a bar for 2-3 hours waiting for your turn to play. What else can you do in a bar for 2-3 hours? Other leagues, like BCA & VNEA, play round robin!

I believe everyone understands how much you dislike the APA. What I dont understand is why you keep opening all of the APA threads just to bash them. Why not let players in the APA or other leagues come to their own conclusion?
 
You are going to have major problems if you don't stop doing that. The alcohol is a crutch. Get used to playing sober.
 
I play APA and I am a 6. There are 3 players that are 7's. I beat them most of the time.

I have a few beers and I play my game. There is one 7 that I beat 5 times in the last year. He finally beat me after going hill-hill. He plays me too tight. There is no flow to his game. Plays to soft and misses his position and safes himself. He is a very good player and is fully capable of beating me.

He doesn't drink.....................

LMFAO

Kim
 
I knew this was coming.

Don't worry about it Shaky. Everyone has a different row to hoe and we all have different ways of doing it.

If you're not drinking at home or any other time, you're using it as a way to calm yourself down. I love beer and pool, it goes hand in hand with me.
I once tried to drink coffee in a tourney match. I wasn't playing well. I asked the waitress to take the coffee away and bring me a beer. Problem solved.
I drink beer when I practice, league etc, so why should I change my routine for a tournament game.

Maybe you can find a different way to calm yourself while playing. Obviously its bothering you otherwise you would start a thread about it.

If its not a problem, just relax and enjoy the amount of time you have on earth and don't worry about what others think. Drink beer and enjoy your games.
 
Ha Ha Ha!!!!! Sometimes when I do shoot really fast it does help! I'm headed to the bar tonight and try to play thru the nerves. If I can't, at least it will be cheap. My damn bridge hand fingertips are brush burned from the felt, that's how many shots I have hit at home practicing. Still can't run a rack at home and sober.

Are you saying even when you are home you can't play well unless you drink?

If yes,,hmmmm?

I have seen many people that could play there arse off in a basement,,but played terrible at tournaments. It happens or happened to everyone somewhere along the line. Most pull out of it.

The difference between the Pro's and the other 100,000 great pool players in the world. The Pro's can control there minds,thoughts and focus on playing to win.
NOT a easy thing to do.(It's huge)

You are not alone,,by far,,all in the mind.

Get the book "point the way" by the MONK. You won't regret it.
 
I just finished reading "Pleasures of Small Motions" by Bob Fancherb. Two others have recommended this to you. I think you will find much of what he writes just up your alley and a tremendous help. Good luck, Steve
 
Well........ here is what happened.
I went in with my wife to have dinner....
Before I ever sat down, the girls were there to give me a beer.:(
I didn't ask for it.
I took it . Drank it as slow as possible, about an hour.
The barmaids kept asking if I was ready for another. I said NO.
I then started to play pool. I ran the first two tables..,,,,,,,,,
Then I got nervous...........
I lost about the next 7 games.......
I then got pissed........
I ordered drinks.........
I only wound up losing about 15 bucks.
I drank , but I didn't shoot good at all! But I saved a lot of money. :(
I could have lost every game. :(
I played like @#it all night, but I hate losing. I did what I had to do. :(
 
I just finished reading "Pleasures of Small Motions" by Bob Fancherb. Two others have recommended this to you. I think you will find much of what he writes just up your alley and a tremendous help. Good luck, Steve

I'm going to have to read this, because a lot of folks recommend it!
In fact , my smart wife may already have it. ;)
 
I'm just an honest man trying to be honest. Nothing more.

nothing wrong with that.

i quit drinking a year and a half ago, my game has suffered ever since. to this day whenever i am in a tough match and it looks like i am not in the game so to speak my teamates tell me i need a couple of beers . they all think i dont play as good as i used to when i drank.

what it all boils down to is the mental aspect of the game. beer relaxes you and makes you quit thinking so much. there are times when i play like i used and i attribute it to when i quit over analyzing things and just make the shot.

anytime i miss an easy shot that i have made a hundred time before it was because i was thinking too much.

as the old saying goes , when you start drinking , you stop thinking.
 
A little advice would be to not stop drinking the same night you intend on gambling.
You should give yourself some time to get used to the difference in playing while sober before you get into the gambling matches.
 
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