Nice post Jive, good pictures too.
I'm merely trying to get you to understand why your statement was not appropriate or true.
For expensive, then the sky is the limit in China...in Cities like Shanghai you can find expensive food much easier than in New York...
I go to a club in Shanghai called M2 all time when i'm in Shanghai, whenever i'm there and people there order champagnes by the dozen..i was there with a bunch of friends last year and we thought we drank and ordered alot of drinks...next table a guy comes in alone, sits down and next i see 10 buckets of champagne..that's 5 Bottles per Bucket, not your typical 1 btl per bucket. 50btls of champers...he didn't order no Krug but it's still a Moet Rose and the club sells it for about $190 per btl...and having been there a couple of times it's a pretty common sighting...
Notice the chevrolet logos in the back of the pool room. Why they sponsor over there and not here?
Millions of people there watch pool on TV, over here we get tens of thousands, its just a numbers thing. They also do not have the big sports we have either so pool is a big deal, pool had its time and fanfare here but its over and never ever will be what it was again. I do not even think a big movie will do the trick at this point either, there is no hope, we are all condemned.![]()
You come here buddy. You bring Sean and that other fella and come see for yourself. You come and play all 3000, then, when you've found one that can play, you can prove that my statement is untrue.
But don't tell me what's true and what's not in my own backyard, eh?
I'm not disputing that the 3000 Chinese players there are crap, infact I take your word that they suck and must've been sent there as a concentration camp thing.
It's the stereotyping that I'm trying to correct. You seem to believe that pool players in China suck and while I'm not actually standing up for them since I don't know 1.2+++billion of them that well, I know for a fact that there's loads of good players in china more than what you seem to accept. That's all. I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I'm still not against you as a person, I am merely trying to get you to believe that there are many good Chinese good players that you've never met. Therefore don't generalise so easily.
Jive:
This is spot-on. Tim isn't getting what we're trying to say -- he's just spin-locked on defending the wording of his post, saying *we* (plural) are idiots because we're taking his post a certain way.
I'm not going to respond to his "rutting season" comment, because it's obvious he just wants to engage in banter. It's almost like a Monty Python skit:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
I don't know why, but I imagine Tim as that guy in the glasses...
-Sean
I'm not disputing that the 3000 Chinese players there are crap, infact I take your word that they suck and must've been sent there as a concentration camp thing.
It's the stereotyping that I'm trying to correct. You seem to believe that pool players in China suck and while I'm not actually standing up for them since I don't know 1.2+++billion of them that well, I know for a fact that there's loads of good players in china more than what you seem to accept. That's all. I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I'm still not against you as a person, I am merely trying to get you to believe that there are many good Chinese good players that you've never met. Therefore don't generalise so easily.
It's not "obvious I want to engage in banter". Sean, I don't mean to be unkind here, but I really don't look to this site for top quality banter...
As for the clip, you MUST be joking! That nerdy, petty annoyance is a shoe best worn by someone else, someone who does seem to enjoy a spot of projection from time to time, so I've noticed. You know the type, those that like diagrams and statistics and equations and all sorts of long-winded guff to prove points nobody's interested in anyway.
"Oh! This is Abuse. You want room 12A, next door..."