Who is the BEST pool-playing INSTRUCTOR?

Sorry. Maybe I didn't understand your post.

So are you saying that Fran is a top, pool-playing instructor?

I have never seen Fran play so I don't have any judgment on her level of play.

You know what, Joey? I can play. I'm deeply touched that a student of mine came on here and said that.

Do you want to come to NY and test me out, Joey? Feel free, or are you going to keep asking for further clarification?
 
Hm,

often i enjoy JoeyA s threads- some are fun, some are nice discussions. But how the hell do you want to rate this?
There are for sure many many instructors who are or has been great players.
HOw you rate *make a profit*-- you can choose also Dallas West, JOhn Schmidt or Ray Martin- furthermore we could throw Grady Matthews into the ring. This list would be endless. All of them teach for money- and they do great. And all of them are champions, if not world champions.

It s like seperating instructors furthermore into licenses, not licensed and we ll find many more things to make more different points of view.

I like you Joey- but this thread is a little too strange for me.
 
In case you guys dont know, Fran is still a force to be reckoned with. I just played her and let me tell you, shes still got it.
 
Scott and Fran are among the best. They belong on the list of Who's Who. Case closed.
 
Try Ray Martin. He still teaches at his home in Largo and everyone I know of that has taken lessions from Ray has nothing but praise for him. :bow-down:
Give him a call. 727 798 5561.
 
You know what, Joey? I can play. I'm deeply touched that a student of mine came on here and said that.

Do you want to come to NY and test me out, Joey? Feel free, or are you going to keep asking for further clarification?

Maybe Joey and you can set up a heads up match on TAR. I believe many would like to see that match.
 
In case you guys dont know, Fran is still a force to be reckoned with. I just played her and let me tell you, shes still got it.

Now that's what I have been waiting for.
Fran is one the list.
 
I'm hoping that all of the people that the AZB members are recommending are not only good instructors but EXCELLENT PLAYERS.

This thread isn't about who is the most liked instructor or the best instructor.

It is about THE BEST POOL-PLAYING INSTRUCTOR and one who teaches on a REGULAR basis.

I have immense respect for everyone who teaches pool, but I didn't want to have a list of pool-playing instructors that only teach occasionally or that didn't play at a very high level.

If someone says that a player plays at a very high level and I don't know better, I will add them to the list.

I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. That's not what this is all about and that's not what I am about.
 
You know what, Joey? I can play. I'm deeply touched that a student of mine came on here and said that.

Do you want to come to NY and test me out, Joey? Feel free, or are you going to keep asking for further clarification?

I don't know how you play Fran and I know that it is an honor for someone to mention your name. The poster mostly alluded to the fact that their game had improved dramatically because of your instruction and I am sure that is gratifying to both of you as it should be.

Bambu stated that you are a force to reckon with and that is why your name has been added to the list. The other poster didn't really say anything about your "best pool-playing" credentials.

As to NY, I have never been there. I hear it's quite expensive. I would love to play you some pool sometime but I doubt if coming to NY to play you is in the cards.

If you are coming down to New Orleans for the vacation or holidays, please let me know and I would be happy to play you.

JoeyA
 
Frank stellman "sailor from Racine WI. Has trained many champions.

Does Frank still teach or train players today? And is he "still a force to be reckoned with"?

Again, no disrespect to any of the fine names that have been suggested. I am simply seeking the names of TOP PLAYING INSTRUCTORS who teach on a REGULAR basis, currently.

I'm sure I could learn a lot from any of the names who have been mentioned.
 
Hm,

often i enjoy JoeyA s threads- some are fun, some are nice discussions. But how the hell do you want to rate this?
There are for sure many many instructors who are or has been great players.
HOw you rate *make a profit*-- you can choose also Dallas West, JOhn Schmidt or Ray Martin- furthermore we could throw Grady Matthews into the ring. This list would be endless. All of them teach for money- and they do great. And all of them are champions, if not world champions.

It s like seperating instructors furthermore into licenses, not licensed and we ll find many more things to make more different points of view.

I like you Joey- but this thread is a little too strange for me.

Thanks Ingo. I like you too. I don't know what's strange about this.

I have tried to define the parameters as best I can with my subsequent posts. The truth is MANY OF THE PRO PLAYERS teach and teach well, BUT NOT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

Even Ralf Souquet teaches pool but I don't think he does this on a regular basis. I don't particularly want to add every top playing pool player who occasionally gives a lesson here and there to the list.

Your post concerns me as you aren't one of those with an agenda. I hope I have made myself clearer. If a majority of posters think that I have disrespected any person or group of people I will be happy to remove all of my posts in this thread and ask the moderators to remove the thread altogether.

We're not all created equal. Some people teach better than others. Some people play better than others. I am only interested in noting the people who regularly teach pool and who also play at a very high level.

Again, my apologies if anyone's feelings have been hurt. It isn't and wasn't my intention.
 
Does Frank still teach or train players today? And is he "still a force to be reckoned with"?

Again, no disrespect to any of the fine names that have been suggested. I am simply seeking the names of TOP PLAYING INSTRUCTORS who teach on a REGULAR basis, currently.

I'm sure I could learn a lot from any of the names who have been mentioned.

JoeyA what are your criteria for defining a "top playing" or high level of play?

Does it require pro tournament wins? Taking down the cheese from a top pro playing heads up?

It seems by your posts in this thread that the only possible solution would be for the instructor to have been a pro player and maybe that isn't good enough as they may not still play at a "high level"

Why don't you just give us your list of those that are qualified in your eyes.

BTW I do not belong on that list.
 
JoeyA what are your criteria for defining a "top playing" or high level of play?

Does it require pro tournament wins? Taking down the cheese from a top pro playing heads up?

It seems by your posts in this thread that the only possible solution would be for the instructor to have been a pro player and maybe that isn't good enough as they may not still play at a "high level"

Why don't you just give us your list of those that are qualified in your eyes.

BTW I do not belong on that list.

I think that a top player or high level is self explanatory but I'll try to explain further.

For this thread a top player, is someone who currently competes in big matches and national events and cashes in these events. A top player does not have to be a professional pool player but can be just as long as that pro player teaches on a REGULAR basis.

I'm not great on the A, B, C, D method of rating players but if an A player is a pro player who occasionally cashes in national or international events, then a B player would not qualify as a top player. AA players would be players that have held titles in national or international events.

Hope that helps.

BTW, I do not belong on that list. :D
 
We're not all created equal Some people teach better than others. Some people play better than others. I am only interested in noting the people who regularly teach pool and who also play at a very high level.

Again, my apologies if anyone's feelings have been hurt. It isn't and wasn't my intention.

Hi JoeyA, (its me, the thorn in your paw.) :smile:

My feelings were very hurt..Simply because you have found another method (albeit insidiously) to bring teacher's and 'aiming systems' together in a thinly veiled manner..:o

The bottom line is STILL what you said (in red) in YOUR post. You simply cannot make a silk purse, out of a sow's ear..I wonder how many instructor's just groan, when they see a new pupil, with zero hand/eye coordination. Do they tell him up front, or do they encourage him to spend more $$$, knowing he'll never be an APA 3..at best :o Granted, there are some people who aspire to play at that level...But why ?

As I have said many times to you and John B... you can take all the lesson's you want, and learn all the ASSystems you can...Bottom line is, as you yourself finally admitted, We are not all created equal. :thumbup:

PS..I take that to mean, you will NEVER progress to a 'top player' WITHOUT that magic ingredient called TALENT..:cool:

PPS..Citing your rigid criteria..Would it count, if a player/instructor, specialized in ONE POCKET only...And would not take on rank beginner's (to lazy)..:rolleyes:.(Please do not play the 'age' card on me)
 
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Must have missed this thread.

SVB giving lessons...and easily the best player in the country.

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