Danny Harriman & World Straight Pool Championships

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From another thread -

dmgwalsh said:
I sent them an email regarding Rempe and West. Invited but declined.

How about Strickland, Harriman? Are they in?
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Danny Harriman was not invited to play in this event. It would be kind of rude to ask a player of Danny's ability to qualify for an event that he is quite capable of WINNING when others of equal ability are exempt from having to qualify. There is also the fact that Danny has still not been paid money that he won 4 years ago, and nobody seems to be in a hurry to correct that. Those that are in a position to help out have decided not to, or to participate in blackballing him for whatever reason. Its really a shame because Danny says he is playing some of the best pool of his life right now.

To those in power that may read this:
This is not about personalities, it is a matter of principle. You have the power to correct this and you have chose not to do anything except laugh about it and bury it as if it were not important. Choose to do what is right instead of playng good ol' boy politics to blackball one of the greatest players in the world.

In closing, I commend Randy Goldwater for everything he is doing for the game of 14.1 continuous. Danny Harriman plays the game of 14.1 at its highest level, IMO, he is one of the best. There is no excuse for his exclusion. It was not an oversight. His IPT application (supposedly lost) was not an oversight either. Feel free to contact me (that includes Charlie Williams / Randy Goldwater / Brady Behrman)

at 386-208-0011

After tomorrow I will be in El Paso for a few weeks- I can be reached at 915-591-3089. Let's see if we can work this out - again.
 
Blackjack said:
From another thread -



Danny Harriman was not invited to play in this event. It would be kind of rude to ask a player of Danny's ability to qualify for an event that he is quite capable of WINNING when others of equal ability are exempt from having to qualify. There is also the fact that Danny has still not been paid money that he won 4 years ago, and nobody seems to be in a hurry to correct that. Those that are in a position to help out have decided not to, or to participate in blackballing him for whatever reason. Its really a shame because Danny says he is playing some of the best pool of his life right now.

To those in power that may read this:
This is not about personalities, it is a matter of principle. You have the power to correct this and you have chose not to do anything except laugh about it and bury it as if it were not important. Choose to do what is right instead of playng good ol' boy politics to blackball one of the greatest players in the world.

In closing, I commend Randy Goldwater for everything he is doing for the game of 14.1 continuous. Danny Harriman plays the game of 14.1 at its highest level, IMO, he is one of the best. There is no excuse for his exclusion. It was not an oversight. His IPT application (supposedly lost) was not an oversight either. Feel free to contact me (that includes Charlie Williams / Randy Goldwater / Brady Behrman)

at 386-208-0011

After tomorrow I will be in El Paso for a few weeks- I can be reached at 915-591-3089. Let's see if we can work this out - again.
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Dave...Danny needs representation? Cant you see that its a situation we call in business as the "Good Ol' Boys Club"...if your in your in, if your not in you'll NEVER get in.
 
Blackjack said:
From another thread -



Danny Harriman was not invited to play in this event. It would be kind of rude to ask a player of Danny's ability to qualify for an event that he is quite capable of WINNING when others of equal ability are exempt from having to qualify. There is also the fact that Danny has still not been paid money that he won 4 years ago, and nobody seems to be in a hurry to correct that. Those that are in a position to help out have decided not to, or to participate in blackballing him for whatever reason. Its really a shame because Danny says he is playing some of the best pool of his life right now.

To those in power that may read this:
This is not about personalities, it is a matter of principle. You have the power to correct this and you have chose not to do anything except laugh about it and bury it as if it were not important. Choose to do what is right instead of playng good ol' boy politics to blackball one of the greatest players in the world.

In closing, I commend Randy Goldwater for everything he is doing for the game of 14.1 continuous. Danny Harriman plays the game of 14.1 at its highest level, IMO, he is one of the best. There is no excuse for his exclusion. It was not an oversight. His IPT application (supposedly lost) was not an oversight either. Feel free to contact me (that includes Charlie Williams / Randy Goldwater / Brady Behrman)

at 386-208-0011

After tomorrow I will be in El Paso for a few weeks- I can be reached at 915-591-3089. Let's see if we can work this out - again.
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Unfortunately, I am not at all surprised, but still disappointed. It is absolutely political & Danny does not play along with politics.

Danny belongs in any professional event regardles of the pocket billiards dicipline. He has been playing as a professional (successfuly mind you) for about 16 years and is still just in his thirties.
 
Blackjack-
I couldn't agree more. There are several notables in the world of straight pool that did not receive invites and should have while others were exempt from having to qualify. Harriman is one. Sloezen is another. These guys (and several others) deserve to be there as they are some of the better 14.1 players in the country if not the world. But Charlie and his Dragon Productions needs to have more familiar faces around for tv ratings. This is part of the reason why I have no respect for Charlie Williams or his Dragon Productions.
-Brian
 
If there was ever any doubt of Danny's playing ability he proved at DCC that he is a truly great player. You would have thought with his impressive performance in the 14.1 event that he would be a lock to get the invite to the 14.1 world championships:confused:
 
Blackjack said:
Danny Harriman plays the game of 14.1 at its highest level, IMO, he is one of the best.
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Hi David. At the Big Apple tournament in Queens, NY in 2005, Danny was talking to a friend of mine. I was in their general area. Danny stopped his conversation, looked me in the eye and said, "Hi. I don't know you, but I feel like I should. I see your face at some of the tournaments and would like to introduce myself. My name's Danny Harriman." And then he outstretched his hand.

I can tell you for a fact that has never before happened to me from a top player in the pool world. I am not saying the other guys have been rude; I am just saying that his was the most polite and humble introduction I've had the pleasure of receiving.

Truly a stand-up guy from what I've seen. David, if you see him, please tell him he really made a great impression on me that day.

- Steve
 
Blackjack said:
From another thread -

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To those in power that may read this:
This is not about personalities, it is a matter of principle. You have the power to correct this and you have chose not to do anything except laugh about it and bury it as if it were not important. Choose to do what is right instead of playng good ol' boy politics to blackball one of the greatest players in the world.
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Good to see you posting again, after you swore off Pool forums for good :p

IMO, this seems like the "unstoppable force meeting the inmovable object". I only know part of the story but it seems like neither party will concede or budge an inch. I hope you're interactions are successful but it seems like someone has to start making some concession to get this moving somewhere. Good luck.


Eric
 
To me not getting invited to the event is not as big of travesty as
the fact that he is still owed money. It baffles my ind that pool players
continue to associate with events and promotors that still owe
thier breathren. As far as I have heard Danny is not the only person
that has been left empty handed.
 
You know thats just a big shame. Its seems like things get tuff for Danny and I dont know all the ins and outs but one thing I know - Danny is world class pool. WORLD CLASS. I dont understand. Re ITP: I will say that as excited as I was about it when I first found out about it, I was really disappointed that Harriman was not on the list. Does not make sense. Way to go pushing one of the best aside. You know then I hear he dont want to play any more, I dont know if thats true cause I didnt hear it out of his mouth but if I was as good as him and I got dumped on like that I may just go on tilt. Danny you got fans bro!!
 
I am saddened to see that such a great player as Danny is being excluded also. That sucks.. Mike zuglan "FINALLY" got his invite a few weeks ago and is in. I hope that my posts on this board had something to do with it. Everybody kept saying that he had been invited. That was a couple of months ago. And finally he got the invitation personally from Charlie Williams himself. I hope Randy had something to do with that and i also give Kudos to him for backing such a great game........................mike
 
Steve Lipsky said:
Danny stopped his conversation, looked me in the eye and said, "Hi. I don't know you, but I feel like I should. I see your face at some of the tournaments and would like to introduce myself. My name's Danny Harriman." And then he outstretched his hand.
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That is classic Danny. Anyone that knows him, knows that you quoted it just like he said it... I can almost hear him saying "I don't know you, but I feel like I should."

He's a super nice, respectful, well mannered gentleman. He always has been... you don't see many teenagers acting like that but Danny did and he never lost it. ;)

IMO the good ol boy crowd is jealous... he's a better person, better man, and a better player. None of those yahoo's can hold a candle to Danny. It's not my nature to put down pro players on here... I normally stand up for them but some aren't worth it.
 
I, too, have had the pleasure to meet and shoot a bit with Danny. He was very nice and great to talk to. I wish the best for him in the future and would love to see this mess straightened out so he can do what he was made to do.
 
I play at a room in St. Louis called "Cue and Cushion"--great room by the way. One night Danny Harriman came in, and I had no clue who he was, but a few others recognized him. He introduced himself to the counter guy--who that night I think was a member of this forum--whose handle is not surprisingly "Cue and Cushion"--and Danny said something like, "I play really well and I am interested in playing $100.00/ game one pocket, do you think anyone in here will play." No one was there that night for Danny, but this was one of the rare occasions where I have been pleasantly surprised by a pool player. It is a shame there isn't a way for him to play in the 14.1, he seemed like a great guy.

kollegedave


Steve Lipsky said:
Hi David. At the Big Apple tournament in Queens, NY in 2005, Danny was talking to a friend of mine. I was in their general area. Danny stopped his conversation, looked me in the eye and said, "Hi. I don't know you, but I feel like I should. I see your face at some of the tournaments and would like to introduce myself. My name's Danny Harriman." And then he outstretched his hand.

I can tell you for a fact that has never before happened to me from a top player in the pool world. I am not saying the other guys have been rude; I am just saying that his was the most polite and humble introduction I've had the pleasure of receiving.

Truly a stand-up guy from what I've seen. David, if you see him, please tell him he really made a great impression on me that day.

- Steve
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Well, I agree BUT ...

I agree that Danny is a great player and a very nice well mannered intelligent person, BUT, why for Pete's sake, after trying endlessly to get this situation resolved, hasn't he got himself an attorney, and sued to get his money, and all associated costs (including his attorney fees, court costs, etc). Danny could get this resolved and get compensated with NO OUT OF POCKET COST S to him after judgment is rendered. He probably could even receive punitive damages, or at the very least, interest on the money owed him from time he was supposed to be paid until the present.

Believe me, a judge would make them pay, whether wages had to be garnished, assests liquidated, or by other means.

If Muhammed will not come to the mountain, subpeona his a** to get him
there.

Scott (who has an practicing over 30 years attorney big brother that
is also a Poolplayer, widely known as the Poolplayer's attorney
here - over 100 served )
 
Here's the dilemma....

If Danny decided to start "fresh" and let by-gones be by-gones, he is letting his fellow pro-players down. How so? The promoters will have gotten away with not fullfilling their obligations to the player. That leaves the impression that the players mentality (in general) is weak to pursue what is rightfully owed to him/her. Which could lead to more failures to pay because "the players" will roll over and quit persuing what is rightfully owed to them in time.

Since Danny has stood his ground, fighting for what is RIGHT, he is stereotyped as a trouble maker, and bad for the game of pool. How ironic this perception is. Danny's demeanor should be used as a role model for pool players of all levels to replicate. Danny will be the first to tell you " I am no Angel." Well nobody is perfect, and I, for one, know I have done things in my life that I am not proud of, just as everyone else reading this has as well. Overall, Danny is a good young man, with a kind heart, and a strong passion for the game of Pocket Billiards.

It is a tragedy that Danny, has been neglected in the IPT, Stiffed from the U.S. Open, Deprived of his 2003 UPA Tour Championship Trophy, The lack of an invitation to the 14.1 World Championships, and the lack of recognition for his Derby City Straight Pool Run/Win.

Danny should be an ambassador of United States Cue sports. But instead, Since he has stood his ground on not backing down on what is right, not only for himself, but for his fellow pro player. He is labeled an outcast.

I wonder, if Danny just "let it go" what the general impression of him would be then.

I will say this, I see Danny doing great things for the Billiards community, it may not be via the IPT or UPA. I guess we will have to see what happens in the future.
 
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Blackjack said:
From another thread -



Danny Harriman was not invited to play in this event. It would be kind of rude to ask a player of Danny's ability to qualify for an event that he is quite capable of WINNING when others of equal ability are exempt from having to qualify. There is also the fact that Danny has still not been paid money that he won 4 years ago, and nobody seems to be in a hurry to correct that. Those that are in a position to help out have decided not to, or to participate in blackballing him for whatever reason. Its really a shame because Danny says he is playing some of the best pool of his life right now.

To those in power that may read this:
This is not about personalities, it is a matter of principle. You have the power to correct this and you have chose not to do anything except laugh about it and bury it as if it were not important. Choose to do what is right instead of playng good ol' boy politics to blackball one of the greatest players in the world.

In closing, I commend Randy Goldwater for everything he is doing for the game of 14.1 continuous. Danny Harriman plays the game of 14.1 at its highest level, IMO, he is one of the best. There is no excuse for his exclusion. It was not an oversight. His IPT application (supposedly lost) was not an oversight either. Feel free to contact me (that includes Charlie Williams / Randy Goldwater / Brady Behrman)

at 386-208-0011

After tomorrow I will be in El Paso for a few weeks- I can be reached at 915-591-3089. Let's see if we can work this out - again.
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Yes!!!! I think it's a joke that he was not invited to the World Championships, he plays the game GREAT and SMART and would be a pleasure to watch him play and compete in the tournamet!!!! What a shame.
 
Danny is world class in every repsect, but the common thread among nearly all those selected is that they have played and distinguished themselves in straight pool competition.

Some have been invited because they are living legends of straight pool.
Most of the Europeans invited have already distinguished themselves in either the European Straight Pool Championships or the 2000 BCA 14.1 Championship. The vast majority of the other invitees have distinguished themselves in the NJ Straight Pool Championships, the best event on the straight pool calendar for a few years now. The invitees are those who compete at straight pool, not just play it.

It was not beneath Nick Varner's dignity to qualify for the World Straight Pool championships in the late 1970's, and he won it in 1981. Why would playing a qualifier have been beneath Harriman's dignity? If he's got game, and I feel certain he does, he'd have had an easy time winning a spot in this event.

I will be very happy if Danny is added to the field, but see no grave injustice in his omission. He has not, to my knowledge, even competed in the most major straight pool events played in recent years.

A very solid case can be made for many others who failed to be selected, such as NYC's own Tom Walter (9th in 2000 BCA 14.1 Champioships and 6th in the 1981 World Championship Straight Pool Event), but better we should rejoice in the excellence of those who were selected.

This is a great event with a great field, and most, but admittedly not every single one of, the elite straight poolers will be there.

I'm tiring of all these complaints regarding the field selection process.
 
Scottster said:
If Danny decided to start "fresh" and let by-gones be by-gones, he is letting his fellow pro-players down. How so? The promoters will have gotten away with not fullfilling their obligations to the player. That leaves the impression that the players mentality (in general) is weak to pursue what is rightfully owed to him/her. Which could lead to more failures to pay because "the players" will roll over and quit persuing what is rightfully owed to them in time.

Since Danny has stood his ground, fighting for what is RIGHT, he is stereotyped as a trouble maker, and bad for the game of pool. How ironic this perception is. Danny's demeanor should be used as a role model for pool players of all levels to replicate. Danny will be the first to tell you " I am no Angel." Well nobody is perfect, and I, for one, know I have done things in my life that I am not proud of, just as everyone else reading this has as well. Overall, Danny is a good young man, with a kind heart, and a strong passion for the game of Pocket Billiards.

It is a tragedy that Danny, has been neglected in the IPT, Stiffed from the U.S. Open, Deprived of his 2003 UPA Tour Championship Trophy, The lack of an invitation to the 14.1 World Championships, and the lack of recognition for his Derby City Straight Pool Run/Win.

Danny should be an ambassador of United States Cue sports. But instead, Since he has stood his ground on not backing down on what is right, not only for himself, but for his fellow pro player. He is labeled an outcast.

I wonder, if Danny just "let it go" what the general impression of him would be then.

I will say this, I see Danny doing great things for the Billiards community, it may not be via the IPT or UPA. I guess we will have to see what happens in the future.
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There was another thread on the topic of him not getting paid for winning the tournament. He has every right to be upset but at this point in time it's counterproductive for him to dwell on the past. Of course that's easy for me to say because I'm not the one who got stiffed out of the money. My advice would be to make nice with everybody and look to the future, but he is a grown man and he can do what he wants.
 
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