How good does Joey A play?

when you know, your going to possibly give ball in hand and you will get run out in a serious game, you take all the time you need to figure it out, my opinion.

This event could have been the Louisiana State 9 Ball Championship. It was at CueSports in Thibodaux, LA for sure. I think I was playing for fourth or eighth place. Robb and other top players travel a bit to come to Thibodaux, LA to play in CueSports' events.
 
That was very painful to watch.

JC

Boy, you ain't kidding there. I probably would have just forfeited the match to get it over with. :smile: Just said, Go ahead... you can have it.

I think that's a side effect of all these aiming systems, when someone takes 5 mins to line up every angle known to man.

People taking forever to shoot is one of my biggest pet peeves in pool. It just sucks all the pleasure out of pool for me. I've not gambled with many a player that I could rob, just because they shoot too slow. It puts me on tilt big time, so I learned early on to not subject myself to it, when possible. It could very well be why I don't like playing tournaments, because you don't have a choice to play them or not play them... well if you want a chance to win anyways:smile:

My post here is not directed to any one person, it's directed to the example that was posted. If I had a choice to play someone that would teach me to shoot like God, I would politely decline if they shot that slow.

My current living situation now, is limited to shooting in bars again. The past month has reminded me why I hate shooting in bars. These guys that have no clue on how to shoot pool, take FOREVER to shoot and they don't even know where the cueball is going anyways. They could have 7 ducks hanging in the pockets and they can't decide on which one to shoot in. That's why I would rather play by myself, because as soon as the game slows to a crawl, my desire to play has been sucked out of me and I start to get in a bad mood:D

When I played at the 211 Club, there was a guy named "Slow Tony". He didn't get that name based on his IQ, so at least with someone like that, you knew what you were getting into from the get go. I actually admire people that are able to shut all that out and not let them be bothered by it. Wish I had that ability.
 
be proud

This event could have been the Louisiana State 9 Ball Championship. It was at CueSports in Thibodaux, LA for sure. I think I was playing for fourth or eighth place. Robb and other top players travel a bit to come to Thibodaux, LA to play in CueSports' events.

Most players can't say they won a match with Robb ,let alone hill hill.True enough it was a bar box .You made a good hit on that well thought out 5 ball.Joey thought about that shot longer than some think about picking out a wife .:thumbup:
 
Ok i found a match of joeyA and yes he has a very good game .. I do hope one day we can meet up and play .. Thanks for all the kind words about joeya.
 
98% of this board would never let any part of there game be seen on this site, not even a break shot! This is what makes AZ so great for some people :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: This is where the Tuesday night bar box league player can be a world beater and consider himself a pool expert! :thumbup::thumbup:
 
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thats funny

How good is Joey A.?? Well, he's the reason I had to stop posting those "What's your shot" threads. Turns out Joey was giving the answer before I even got the diagram posted up!:D

Now that is fast, and funny
 
How good is Joey A.?? Well, he's the reason I had to stop posting those "What's your shot" threads. Turns out Joey was giving the answer before I even got the diagram posted up!:D

Neil, you only have to worry when I start posting the questions that you are thinking about. :D

All that needs to be said. I want to meet and play Joey sometime and hopefully become Efren's mini backer!!!

Jason,
If you want me to go gangsta on you, start messin' wid my status as Efren's mini-tournament backer.:mad:
 
Joey I'll give you the 8 but it's gonna have to be on a 20 second shot clock =) I like Robb and all but I don't have his patience.... Or his new hair color which at least I am thankful of....
 
Jason,

I didn't want to kick off the side and bottom rail to the back side of the 5 ball for fear of scratching. I tried to imagine myself kicking off the to rail and going straight at the 5 but I had to use Inside English to staighten the cue ball and I just didn't have the confidence to shoot that. I could ahave scratched easily on both of those options.

Why not use draw rather than inside?
Maybe I don't understand the shot you passed on.
 
Joey A i hear a lot about this man on az and ustream chats that he plays jam up . i would like to see how good . Is there something i can see this man in action or a match somewere..
Thanks.

He pretty much can't play a lick.
 
Cheap can be fun and I won't lay down a lemon like some.

I would love to play Joey A some cheap 9 ball or 1 Pocket someday.

;)

Anyone who wants to play JoeyA should send him a PM with your real name, city, state and pool room. ;)

Jay Helfert has already bullied me into a match of one pocket and we'll get to it one day.:rolleyes:

Keepin' a list, checkin it twice.

Don't feel hurt if I don't respond. ;-) I get a lot of PMs.... :D
 
Just Curious

Joey, How many times did you set that shot back up and play out different options after that match was over? It's not every day we get a real tester like that on film in real competiton which gives us the opportunity to set it up exactly for further analysis. Would you shoot the same shot again?

JC
 
Joey, How many times did you set that shot back up and play out different options after that match was over? It's not every day we get a real tester like that on film in real competiton which gives us the opportunity to set it up exactly for further analysis. Would you shoot the same shot again?

JC

JC,
I regularly test out JoeV's two rail kicking system. I even tested it out when I was in North Dakota on their Valley Bar Tables. I try to test out that particular two rail kicking system on every table I play a match on.

I would DEFINITELY shoot that shot all over again. Here's my thinking since others have mentioned various thoughts about what they would do. Now I am not saying any of them are wrong. This is just based upon what I know about myself. I can't say what's good for someone else. :

If I kick off of the side rail and down to the head rail and try to come in behind the 5 ball, I can easily scratch in the corner pocket nearest the 5 ball. If I hit high on the 5 ball, trying to kick it in the nearest corner pocket, the cue ball is taking off like a rocket, looking for a hole to fall in. It is just too difficult for me to shoot at the foot rail with left side spin, bending over the table stretching and trying to see the aim line and again on this particular shot, the corner pocket nearest the 5 ball is HUGE and for the most part the shot is "fraught with peril".

I have practiced this two rail kick well enough that I can most of the time guarantee that I can hit one side of the pocket or the other. Since I am very confident that I can hit either side of the corner pocket nearest the 5 ball, I saw that the 10 ball didn't completely cover the 5 ball on the two rail kick and that I could actually make the ball. I still feared hitting the 10 ball on that shot and giving Robb cue in hand. But I knew in my heart of hearts that I could shoot this shot and possibly win the game. ON a bar table with just three balls on the table it is unlikely that you are going to get back to the table if you miss, unless you are playing a lock up safety, especially against a great player like Robb. Most of the other shots that I considered shooting were low percentages for making the 5 ball, without having multiple shots to "dial in", and then you had the scratch factor with the corner pocket and other pockets on the small bar table. I had to pretty much decide to give myself the best chance of making that 5 ball and based upon my experience and the fact that I regularly practice this shot, I felt I had to go all in and did. After all that thinking, I believe that I gave myself the best chance of winning the game. Ironically, I win the game based upon my opponent having to compensate (by shooting harder than normal) because of a leaning table with a straight in shot at half of a pocket. Pool is a strange game indeed.

And NO, I don't play slow. The pressure of the event and playing a great player like Robb had me reaching farther than I would have liked but at least this time, a "system" paid off well for me. I guess, I should tell people where they can learn how to shoot this shot with amazing consistency. :grin: :D

Oh yeah and if you would have seen what got me into this difficult situation, you would be laughing your butt off. (I did it to myself) aiehhhhhh................ (Now Realizm knows how poorly I really play)
 
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JC,
I regularly test out JoeV's two rail kicking system. I even tested it out when I was in North Dakota on their Valley Bar Tables. I try to test out that particular two rail kicking system on every table I play a match on.

I would DEFINITELY shoot that shot all over again. Here's my thinking since others have mentioned various thoughts about what they would do. Now I am not saying any of them are wrong. This is just based upon what I know about myself. I can't say what's good for someone else. :

If I kick off of the side rail and down to the head rail and try to come in behind the 5 ball, I can easily scratch in the corner pocket nearest the 5 ball. If I hit high on the 5 ball, trying to kick it in the nearest corner pocket, the cue ball is taking off like a rocket, looking for a hole to fall in. It is just too difficult for me to shoot at the foot rail with left side spin, bending over the table stretching and trying to see the aim line and again on this particular shot, the corner pocket nearest the 5 ball is HUGE and for the most part the shot is "fraught with peril".


Oh yeah and if you would have seen what got me into this difficult situation, you would be laughing your butt off. (I did it to myself) aiehhhhhh................ (Now Realizm knows how poorly I really play)

Thanks for the walk through of your thought process at the table. Really my question was whether you set that shot back up later since you had video evidence to make the lay of the balls pretty exact and explored whether your perceived outcome on other options was reality or not. I have watched you play on some vids and know you don't shoot slow. I also see you're not really a CTE guy by how often you line up the contact point with your stick:smile: (not relevant to this discussion, just an observation) The problem as I see it with the two rail kick you chose there is because of the angle you can't get much momentum on the cue ball so any hit you make on the five that doesn't pocket it will likely result in a sure sell out, as was the outcome there. (I bet you thought so at the time). Not much chance for separation of the five and cue ball. Also a perfectly pocketed five was going to give you tough shape on the seven. About where you ended up really. I had fun setting up your shot and exploring options on the table and not just in theory. I always enjoy doing this with the "how would you shoot this" questions I see. Of course my table is nine foot so it's a bit different.

JC
 
Why not use draw rather than inside?
Maybe I don't understand the shot you passed on.

Draw would have been good. I just am not that good especially when leaning over the table like that.
 
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