I my APA league, I play on 2 nights. Everyones SL goes up and down for both nights. I don't believe you can be 2 different SL's in the same league. Not possible.
KIm
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I my APA league, I play on 2 nights. Everyones SL goes up and down for both nights. I don't believe you can be 2 different SL's in the same league. Not possible.
KIm
This may be an obvious question, but is he playing the same game on different nights?
I play 8-ball on Tuesday and 9-ball on Thursday. I have different skill levels in each.
Doublejr
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I think it all depends on how well the LO is at keeping up with the handicaps. The new computer system is a mess in it current state, it should automatically keep track of things like this for the LO so they do not have to micromanage.
For instance a guy on my 9 ball team was a 6 and a 3 on his 8 ball team, as far as I know you cannot be more than 2 skill levels lower than the highest skill level across the board. The new system should flag this, but it is not in the code.
@justadub You can be a different skill level between 8 and 9, but should be the same if you are on two 8 or 9 ball teams.
For instance a guy on my 9 ball team was a 6 and a 3 on his 8 ball team, as far as I know you cannot be more than 2 skill levels lower than the highest skill level across the board. The new system should flag this, but it is not in the code.
@justadub You can be a different skill level between 8 and 9, but should be the same if you are on two 8 or 9 ball teams.
I realize this, just pointing it out in response to the question I quoted. the poster didn't make clear whether it was different formats or not.
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Unless they've changed things, I've seen people that were 7/4 and 5/8. The 7/4 got bumped up to a 7 quickly because they played well starting out and continued to win, but they couldn't play 9 well. The 5/8 had been a 6/7 I think.. obviously had a much better 9 game. To me, a higher 9 player means they're a shooter, while a higher 8 player would mean they're a scrapper and will make you work for games. Most people are only a single level apart.
Other than that, I don't believe you can move more than 2 skill levels without something like a doctor's note that states you've lost 9 fingers.
You don't know me, do you?
It's true, the National office knows your address and since you're a member of their organization the do have your information as a member, so I suppose you're correct, they do have knowledge of your skill level, so should they chose to look at it they can, however, skill levels are kept at the local level. If you play in five different areas of your state (or a couple of states) you have potential to have five different skill levels for the same game.
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Doublejr
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It took a few weeks but it got remedied. He actually dropped to a 5 in 9 and went up to a 4 in 8. So it all worked out in the wash.
The system is not perfect but it works as long as someone is paying attention and speaks up here and there.
Edit: He was established in both leagues having play 5+ years in each so I have no idea how this happened to begin with.
The system is not perfect but it works as long as someone is paying attention and speaks up here and there.
Edit: He was established in both leagues having play 5+ years in each so I have no idea how this happened to begin with.
It is APA 8-ball both nights. I don't know if the LO is the same for both nights. It is also at the same pool hall both nights.
Doublejr
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That is strange, I thought the LO's basically owned a region. It may be different in your area.
We did have a guy who got added to our team twice as two different people, his name first and last names were both first names so that was where the mix up came from. Plus some funny business from my teammates, it took a while to clear up. Although it should have been clear to the LO.
I am not sure what information a LO has at his disposal in relation to APA players outside his franchise area. If someone shows for a tournament saying they are APA with their card it may not be possible to verify this immediately without contacting the LO from where the player came.....we had someone just this past weekend and our LO was not in attendance, one of his Reps was.
as Scott mentioned I believe all scores for each player number are reported weekly to the APA Database.
Than it is the same LO, since franchises are based on counties and cities.
To clarify one thing. When a LO enters scores from matches in their computer they are being entered directly onto the APA server. They are actually logged onto the National Database. If a player plays for 2 different LO's and they are properly identified as the same person when being entered into the second LO's league their skill level will be the same in both leagues as long as the LO's enter the scores timely each week.
Now if they are not identified as the same person, than the scores will be separate since they will have two different member numbers. When a new player is entered with name and DOB matching a current player it will ask the LO if this is that player.
Now if they are not identified as the same person, than the scores will be separate since they will have two different member numbers. When a new player is entered with name and DOB matching a current player it will ask the LO if this is that player.
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They most certainly have our scores at national HQ. Just go to their website, and set up your log in and such. My scores are updated 3-4 days later, usually. Along with Skill Levels and such. Winning percentages, history going back a couple years.
On Friday I will check and see our Tuesday league standings, scores and I can see everyone's roster in our division. (I can see if anyone's Skill Level has changed that week.)
There is no method to view other divisions within our own LO's territory, though. That would be cool, especially going into tricups and states. The national website is still kinda new, so that may change over time.
Celophanewrap...Nope, I don't know you from Adam...but I do know you're not an APA LO. I do know that you posted wrong information about how APA National keeps track of all APA member scores, no matter what league area(s) they play in...and I do know that those numbers are input into the database regularly (used to be weekly...it may be the same or not now). Other APA LO's here have already verified what I said. I'm not arguing that one player could have different SL's...I'm saying that info is already in the national database AND in the local LO's database too.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Banks
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I can see all 48 divisions(8&9 counted separately for double-jeopardy nights) in my LO's territory. It makes it kind of interesting to check around to see who's out there and how people have been doing. Granted, you have to go into each division's rosters, but it can kill some time now and then.
*yawn...*
I believe that as an APA League Operator you've taken a vow of celibacy, or silence, or something like that, signed a confidentially agreement and LO or not, I believe it's a life long commitment. I believe that you were once an APA operator, I'm sure you're everything you seem to be, you certainly appear to be one. I humbly bow before you and ask for your eternal forgiveness.
Everyone, I'm sure Scott is right... again...
Are you viewing that on the National website, or your LO's website? www.poolplayers.com?
I cannot see any way on the National site to access anything other than my own division.
Could ya help me with that?
Celophanewrap...Whoa, looks like your dander is up. Yes I am a former APA LO...and no I have never signed any kind of confidentiality agreement, let alone made a "life long commitment". There is a lot of misinformation spread about the APA. The current and former (like myself) APA LO's who post here merely try to keep things current, truthful, and positive. Sorry you got your feelings hurt.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
No need to apologize (sincere or otherwise), no hurt feelings here, just an odd curiosity. As you and the numerous other APA former and current League Operators wish to keep things current, truthful, and positive, and seeing as how there is no confidentiality agreement between you and the numerous other League Operators here, with the APA, and in a effort to keep things truthful please publish all the documents (hard docs and electronic) that you and the other League Operators might possess that would reveal the skill level system and it's intricacies and please describe any personal information that you have that would pertain to this issue. As well, please make available all information regarding prize money distribution at every level of the APA.
One other thing, I don't have any dander
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Meaning: To get excitedly angry - into a temper.
Example: Don't get your dander up - I'm only doing my job!
Origin: The phrase has Dutch origins where 'op donderen' means to burst into a sudden rage. This, in turn, comes from Donder=Thunder.
Alternative: "Donder op!" in Dutch means: Get out of here! or Hop it! Of course we only say this after we burst into a sudden rage... Thanks to Idske Mulder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dander
Example: Don't get your dander up - I'm only doing my job!
Origin: The phrase has Dutch origins where 'op donderen' means to burst into a sudden rage. This, in turn, comes from Donder=Thunder.
Alternative: "Donder op!" in Dutch means: Get out of here! or Hop it! Of course we only say this after we burst into a sudden rage... Thanks to Idske Mulder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dander