Worn out threads

KJ Cues said:
The insert that Joey shows will work on most other threads but not the Cog which is 7/16x11.
The reason that it won't work is because the threaded section of the insert (Unique Products) is 1/2x20.
That has a minor dia. of approx. .413 which is smaller than the major dia of the pin.
What's likely to happen is that the 7/16x11 tap will take out 1/2 of the installed insert.
The 1/2x20 threaded section will be gone and what remains of the unthreaded section will have
a wall thickness of .0315".
Consider also that the Unique insert is about 1" in total length. The Cog pin is longer than that.
Plugging & tapping is the way to go, I just wouldn't use that insert.
Atlas has the 7/16x11 tap in stock.

http://www.cuestik.com/store/product.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=129&ITEM_ID=5824
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That info is a printer for file/ Thanks
 
TomHay said:
Michael, I believe he said it was his favorite shaft. My take on this is he has two shafts with the cue. The best is to send it back to the cuemaker which brings up numerous issues. 1. Economic times. 2. Most cue makers I know want the but and other shaft so when they are completed everything is as pristine to feel of fit on shafts as originaly made.

The shaft IMO is already not right and by all means the best is going to come from boring, plugging and rethreading. Some failed super glue attempt should not cause any more cost to have repaired right.

I say this not out of disrespect but I know by reputation you do things right period. There is no other way for you. This is a good thing not bad.

They sell things like Fix a Flat and Radiator sealer. This is not the final solution and does not work everytime. For some it allows the time and money to get them where they are going while they make plans on having it done right.

Due to your highly ranked reputation of seeking perfection in your craft I understand concern and you can not be known it the slightest for a Jury rig of any kind but sometimes a mans gotta do what he's gotta do for reasons we can not judge him by.
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Hi Tom:
You give me way to much credit. Here's my thought, if you just by chance, add to much super glue, an oooops, if you will, You would need the correct tap to fix that situation, if the glue just by chance again, builds up higher on one side than the other and it's forced a bit when the shaft is connected to the butt, NOW??? the shaft sits off center and could possibly warp when you play with it, because it's cocked, Nothing more, nothing less than good old fashion human error and physics.
 
Michael Webb said:
I just gots to ask:grin:
Do people really do this??
And if they do, what happens if there's and oops and you don't have the tap???:eek:
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Yeah, no matter how good a job you do of slinging out the thin cyno, you are gonna end up with some misalignment without the correct tap to chase and clean up the threads. :grin:
 
Michael Webb said:
Hi Tom:
You give me way to much credit. Here's my thought, if you just by chance, add to much super glue, an oooops, if you will, You would need the correct tap to fix that situation, if the glue just by chance again, builds up higher on one side than the other and it's forced a bit when the shaft is connected to the butt, NOW??? the shaft sits off center and could possibly warp when you play with it, because it's cocked, Nothing more, nothing less than good old fashion human error and physics.
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How about the cyano builds up unevenly, feels like its going on smooth and poof, blow out the side of the joint ring?
Or
The pin loosens? I've seen that before :)
 
Michael Webb said:
Hi Tom:
You give me way to much credit. Here's my thought, if you just by chance, add to much super glue, an oooops, if you will, You would need the correct tap to fix that situation, if the glue just by chance again, builds up higher on one side than the other and it's forced a bit when the shaft is connected to the butt, NOW??? the shaft sits off center and could possibly warp when you play with it, because it's cocked, Nothing more, nothing less than good old fashion human error and physics.
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and than he has no more favorite shaft ever again. There is always a reason not to try miricle cures. Anyone have a crowbar? I need some help getting my foot out of my mouth.
 
just wrong in so many aspects

cuejo said:
How about the cyano builds up unevenly, feels like its going on smooth and poof, blow out the side of the joint ring?
Or
The pin loosens? I've seen that before :)
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That's my thoughts, you beat me to it.. To much PIN and not enough HOLE ...POW :eek:
 
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