Students Responsibility
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The best thing I can hope for in a student is an open mind. Without that, nothing else is of any consequence. Most of us are pretty good at identifying the areas that need the most attention as we progress through a lesson. More often than not, the student may not even know what their needs are. I put more weight on what I observe a student doing, that what they tell me. I've seen students swear their stroke is just fine, until they see the video.
We (instructors) aren't immune either. I have asked other instructors to observe me, and have ended up learning something was wrong that I wasn't even aware of.
Steve
We (instructors) aren't immune either. I have asked other instructors to observe me, and have ended up learning something was wrong that I wasn't even aware of.
Steve
well written STeve- hope all is going great for you
I agree with Steve-especially on the *observation-thing*. I also pay more attention on the *visual observation*. Of course an instructor could also just do *what the student would want to hear*.....but are we then good instructors? That s why you also have to be kind of a psychologist^^ not just explaining what to change-also push some guys *with very well chosen words* step by step into the correct direction
How do you assess what your student needs to concentrate on the most to become a more accomplished pool player?
Well: Video is a great tool- many have never seen themselves playing-cams don t lie. Every student/player is different and individual. Also you have to checkout how *expirienced* he is- theoretically and also of course how about his technical fundamentals. With *transfering* knowledge you cannot go wrong from my opinion and expirience- so that the student understands, why he would need to work on this or that (if not.......the "Cam-Marshall" appears, lol).
For expirienced, where you would try to work on PSR etc- you also have to analyze first, what kind of human is the player: is he introvert? more extravert? ....this is a very very long list- and here just your personal expirience helps you-and of course also knowledge.
These are of course just few things i shown up- just as examples. I definitley couldn t say there s a shortcut
And of course- open minded is the real key. Then the last important thing is, that it makes *click* between you and the student. Without *the click*............it s wasted money.
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This is one reason why video analysis is SO important...many students think their stroke is "fine", when in fact there are often several issues that could be responsible for inconsistent play. I always respect a student who has prepared some kind of 'list' of what they want to cover. As Steve said, usually seeing a video of themselves is enough to get them going in the right direction.
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
AT the beginning of the lesson, that they have an open mind and are willing to put in the work required after the lesson to improve their game.
After the lesson, I like to get a call or an email a few months down the road where they tell me they have put in the time and practiced what we covered and have developed their game and are pleased with the results and are having more enjoyment playing pool.
After the lesson, I like to get a call or an email a few months down the road where they tell me they have put in the time and practiced what we covered and have developed their game and are pleased with the results and are having more enjoyment playing pool.
IMO sarcasm would not be a good teaching tool but maybe it works for you. Have a "fantastic" day! Quoted from one of the best instructors..
I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being truthful. You asked an unfair question.
From an instructors point of view, what do you like to see or hear from your students at the onset of lessons? How do you assess what your student needs to concentrate on the most to become a more accomplished pool player?
whats unfair in either question???
coca colas formula is known in general but not specifics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_formula
i didnt ask coca cola but i did ask google
you could have offered some generalities
jmho
im not an instuctor
so im sure fran thinks im wrong
(meant in jest no offence intended)I asked an UNFAIR question! REALLY??
Your response to my original question was sarcastic and this response is ridiculous. You may go on as long as you like I will not waste another moment responding to your comments. Again, I hope you have a "fantastic" day!
I like to hear that they have an open mind like Steve said; I also like to get the impression that they are "ready to take the nestea plundge" (fall backwards and trust me with their game). And I also like those who are more concerned with what they are going to learn rather than what they can do right now. But I CAN deal with just about anyone, I have taught people that are borderline "nuts" and some of those you just have to "do what you can" with them.
That is where video comes in at the start as Scott also pointed out, I tape them doing absolutely EVERYTHING I have a couple of hours of video of them and I watch it over and over; so when the 1st lesson comes along (the 1st session is the "evaluation" and that is different than lesson #1) I have a complete understanding of 1. what they can and can not do 2. what they do and do not know 3. "how" they view the game. It took me a long time to come up with this system and I get better as a teacher every year.
THANKS to all the posters that took the time to make positive comments. I have taken lessons in the past and am going to be involved in a group lesson next month and want to maximize my time in the best way possible. My other concern was that I did not wish to waste the instructor's time needlessly.