How much will I need to adjust?

[zpele]

So I have an 11.5mm classic pro shaft on the way from OB as we speak and I was wondering if anyone would like to share stories of how hard it was for them to switch to a thinner diameter shaft.

I was currently using an OB-1 12.75mm so I think this will make a big difference....

 

[Cdryden]

So I have an 11.5mm classic pro shaft on the way from OB as we speak and I was wondering if anyone would like to share stories of how hard it was for them to switch to a thinner diameter shaft.

I was currently using an OB-1 12.75mm so I think this will make a big difference....

A whole bunch.......none.........maybe a little.............WHO KNOWS!

No one can really answer that for you. None of us know how quickly you learn and adapt.

And in the end why worry about it. I will take as long as it takes.

 

[Six Shooter]

So I have an 11.5mm classic pro shaft on the way from OB as we speak and I was wondering if anyone would like to share stories of how hard it was for them to switch to a thinner diameter shaft.

I was currently using an OB-1 12.75mm so I think this will make a big difference....

It didn't really take me all that long but I can't attest to others. If memory serves me correctly, I believe it took me about 2 weeks +/- day it two. It actually felt really comfortable from the start. All I had to do was just get used to the performance.

 

[Espartaco_7]

So I have an 11.5mm classic pro shaft on the way from OB as we speak and I was wondering if anyone would like to share stories of how hard it was for them to switch to a thinner diameter shaft.

I was currently using an OB-1 12.75mm so I think this will make a big difference....

I´d say it will depends on your style of play. If you´re a center ball guy like a friend of mine, you´ll adapt pretty soon. But if you´re a english addict like myself i will take quite long. Just MHO.

 

[Andrewjoseph]

So I have an 11.5mm classic pro shaft on the way from OB as we speak and I was wondering if anyone would like to share stories of how hard it was for them to switch to a thinner diameter shaft.

I was currently using an OB-1 12.75mm so I think this will make a big difference....

The first and only shaft I have ever played with is the predator z2 which has an 11.75 mm tip and I really like it. I have only been playing pool for less than 2 years and I am fairly decent with a few BnR's under my belt, which begs the question is it me or the cue?

I was thinking about making the switch to the ob classic pro because i keep hearing great things about it and the hit is supposed to be more satisfying hit

 

[zpele]

The first and only shaft I have ever played with is the predator z2 which has an 11.75 mm tip and I really like it. I have only been playing pool for less than 2 years and I am fairly decent with a few BnR's under my belt, which begs the question is it me or the cue?

I was thinking about making the switch to the ob classic pro because i keep hearing great things about it and the hit is supposed to be more satisfying hit

I'll let you know how it is once I get it. Customer suppor from Shane at OB has been nothing short of amazing and I can't wait till that package arrives in the mail. I hope to god it comes before this weekend's regionals but I wouldn't be surprised if I don't get it before next week.

As for if I am a center ball guy.... not at all lol. Hopefully this will let me add even more spin to the ball (although I get more than enough for anything outside of trick shots now). I just love getting crazy reactions from the cueball and being able to control those reactions.

 

[naji]

So I have an 11.5mm classic pro shaft on the way from OB as we speak and I was wondering if anyone would like to share stories of how hard it was for them to switch to a thinner diameter shaft.

I was currently using an OB-1 12.75mm so I think this will make a big difference....[/QUOT

I have been using small 11 mm shaft (not OB) for almost 30 years, the beauty of small shaft is you do not have to go all the way to edge to get english on CB, therefore its deflection with right bridge location cancels stun with english so you can aim at center of pocket or at most right or left of pocket, not 1/4 a diamond. Have to be cogent of the shaft level to avoid swerve on slow speed, also tip contact point to avoid unwanted english. It might be good to look at exact tip contact last. If you need to use extreme english shaft will deflect like others do, but you can adjust, or bridge at pivot point where possible.

 

[Maniac]

If your stroke is straight and true, you shouldn't have any problems adjusting. I played with Z2's for a couple of years, but my stroke was/is just too wobbly to hit the cueball EXACTLY where it needed to be hit, so I sold both of them and now use an OB Classic.

Good luck and most of all, ENJOY!!!

Maniac

 

[Dunnn51]

I guess I'll ask. Do you really feel there is a need to go to a thinner shaft? Reason why I ask is there are advantages & disadvantages to doing so.

 

[zpele]

I guess I'll ask. Do you really feel there is a need to go to a thinner shaft? Reason why I ask is there are advantages & disadvantages to doing so.

No I don't feel there is a need per say. I have no problem moving the cueball around the table at all I just wanted to try a smaller diameter shaft for once to see how it plays.

In your opinion, what are the advantages and disadvantages to using a smaller diameter shaft?

 

[Tramp Steamer]

Shouldn't be too difficult. Just a matter of getting used to the change.
Kind of like Tiger Woods with a new set of clubs. He's still Tiger. :smile:

 

[RAMIII]

2 weeks

I play daily 1-2 hrs and it took me two weeks to adjust from the 12.75 Gcore shaft that I was using. It's frustrating at first, but be patient, you can make some amazing shots with this shaft. Good luck.

 

[Dunnn51]

Smaller Shaft

sorry, I am trying to change my profile pic, and not having much luck. (It sez it cannot take the pic,... its small enuff.) geez !

Anyway, I went to a smaller diameter shaft yrs ago when I was playing as a teen. The advantage is that (IMO) you get a much cleaner sight-line (I think they call that CTE now) to the OB when you line up with the CB. I had problems doing so with a 13mm shaft. That got clear when I could plant a bead easily with an 11mm.
There are 2 small disadvantages that you may want to consider.

First is stroke, the narrower sightline to the OB will magnify any imperfections in your stroke. I get caught when I'm not cognisant,.... usually when i'm tired in a tourney.

second is there is a lil less real estate on your tip, something to consider for sharp angles,(hard cuts), and to a lesser extent English.

 

[zpele]

sorry, I am trying to change my profile pic, and not having much luck. (It sez it cannot take the pic,... its small enuff.) geez !

Anyway, I went to a smaller diameter shaft yrs ago when I was playing as a teen. The advantage is that (IMO) you get a much cleaner sight-line (I think they call that CTE now) to the OB when you line up with the CB. I had problems doing so with a 13mm shaft. That got clear when I could plant a bead easily with an 11mm.
There are 2 small disadvantages that you may want to consider.

First is stroke, the narrower sightline to the OB will magnify any imperfections in your stroke. I get caught when I'm not cognisant,.... usually when i'm tired in a tourney.

second is there is a lil less real estate on your tip, something to consider for sharp angles,(hard cuts), and to a lesser extent English.

Mmk thats good to know. I'm not worried about my stroke unless in long tournaments but I do tend to load up lots of english on the cueball. I will have to start using a bit less english it sounds like.

 

[Dunnn51]

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Don't worry too much about losing any ability concerning English. (That's why I said to a lesser extent). Don't quote me, but if I remember correctly you can pull about 2 1/4 sticks of English onna 13mm tip. (i'll say 2+) With an 11mm, 2 sticks is just about the limit, and that I've found will take care of 90% of my needs on the table.

hope this helps ! :smile:

 

[Patrick Johnson]

...the narrower sightline to the OB will magnify any imperfections in your stroke.

I don't know what you mean by "the narrower sightline", but a smaller shaft doesn't magnify stroke imperfections.

...there is a lil less real estate on your tip

There's plenty of real estate for anything you want to do. The outside edges of larger tips are mostly unused.

pj
chgo

 

[Dunnn51]

There's plenty of real estate for anything you want to do. The outside edges of larger tips are mostly unused.

pj
chgo

P J , I respect your opinion, but I beg to differ. Try shooting a corner pocket shot thats has both the CB & OB inside the corner pocket diamond box, and is blocked for a bank. You'll be looking for every edge of that tip you have.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

There's plenty of real estate for anything you want to do. The outside edges of larger tips are mostly unused.

pj
chgo

Dunnn51:
P J , I respect your opinion, but I beg to differ. Try shooting a corner pocket shot thats has both the CB & OB inside the corner pocket diamond box, and is blocked for a bank. You'll be looking for every edge of that tip you have.

Here's a drawing showing what I mean. Each of these tips is at the miscue limit, so their point of contact with the cue ball can be no farther from the tip's center without miscueing. Notice that the 12.75mm tips don't use their outermost edges.

pj
chgo

 

[zpele]

Here's a drawing showing what I mean. Each of these tips is at the miscue limit, so their point of contact with the cue ball can be no farther from the tip's center without miscueing. Notice that the 12.75mm tips don't use their outermost edges.

pj
chgo

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Usually I like to argue with you but on this one you are correct.

Many things in pool are mental and unless you know the exact reason behind some aspects it is easy to develop logic in order to explain to your brain what is going on.

I believe there are some shots out there that people just dont trust will work and when you don't believe it you will often miss. What it comes down to is confidence in your equipment and if a smaller diameter shaft accomplishes that then I'm all for it.

I am however looking forward to becoming more accurate due to the smaller shaft size.





This does lead me to another question however.....

Does a tip flatten when it strikes the ball? If it does than the contact point will be much smaller and I would imagine less energy being transferred from the cue to the cueball. Is this true or is the resulting deviation not enough to be noticed after adjusting to it?

 

[Dunnn51]

Here's a drawing showing what I mean. Each of these tips is at the miscue limit, so their point of contact with the cue ball can be no farther from the tip's center without miscueing. Notice that the 12.75mm tips don't use their outermost edges.

pj
chgo

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Nice fancy drawing ! Wanna know something? I don't dispute ANY of that.

NOW,............. CHANGE THE ANGLE of the stick in your diagram ! THEN go and look at my 2nd post where I said hard cuts,... ie sharp angles. then re-examine my example in my post prior to this.

when I joined AZ, I promised myself I was not going to get into any pissing match with someone here.

If you don't like me or my opinion, that's fine. PEACE I'm done .