your incorrect BB is scheduled around other events
Derby City Ten Ball Invitational
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your incorrect BB is scheduled around other events
I guess u didnt look at the schedule closely. They play EVERY weekend. Not all teams do, but some will always be playing.
Its a good thing though
I am just curious how Derby helps Bonus Ball? I cannot see an operation who is spending more money then all the major tournaments combined to just shut down for 2 weeks, that would be a bonehead move. The players who do well at Derby making money will be going so DCC will not lose any of the top dogs I am thinking, some players will do Bonus Ball because they might not perform well (make money) usually at Derby.
I do not think Bonus Ball will affect Derby as much as everyone thinks or any of the other major events. We all talk about this but it does not matter what we think, it matters what the players think who are involved and I am sure they like having the option to play or not and still be making money. This is good for the players without a doubt and I would love to hear their feeling on it and if they are stressing the schedule "conflicts" as much as the people on the forum are. Since they can choose to go to any event but just forfeit that weeks paycheck at Bonus Ball this conversation is a bit of a non issue I think.
I don't know the full numbers on bonus ball.
That being said, which of the players made over 26,000 last year? (Even though bonus ball is 26 weeks)
If it were me, I'd take the guaranteed cash. (Although I do the exact opposite myself when I take time off to go to tournaments, but I have zero chance of getting paid)
This derby 10 ball is going to be great, a lot of quality players are signed up so far. Great job by Jay and Diamond!
That being said, which of the players made over 26,000 last year? (Even though bonus ball is 26 weeks)
If it were me, I'd take the guaranteed cash. (Although I do the exact opposite myself when I take time off to go to tournaments, but I have zero chance of getting paid)
This derby 10 ball is going to be great, a lot of quality players are signed up so far. Great job by Jay and Diamond!
Your talking to someone(Lou) who said he wouldn't write about the Mosconi Cup because Barry Hearn couldn't afford him, he was busy with clients with deep pockets
Lou,
You should throw your name in the hat as an alternate for BB. Pays $1k per match win, lose or draw..
You should throw your name in the hat as an alternate for BB. Pays $1k per match win, lose or draw..
Ralf Souquet just confirmed for the Ten Ball at DCC.
Anyone from Japan, China, or Tawain sign up yet Jay? Johnnyt
Not yet, Johnny.
Why does it have to be an either/or question? Why would it not be better for all concerned for the players to play in, and have a shot at, money from both events? Why put the players in a position where they have to consider forfeiting a pay check? Why make them choose in the first place?
Lastly, anything that makes marquee players unavailble for the DCC is not good for the event, pool, and by extension, BB.
Lou Figueroa
Well if they stop Bonus Ball for 2 weeks for Derby then the players would not get paid for those 2 weeks, some players would actually rather make guaranteed money then go to Derby. I have done plenty of independent contracting and would have to make decisions no different then the players would in this case. I could take sure money and work a job nearby or I could do some travel with more expenses essentially taking a gamble for a bigger payoff but not always guaranteed, in life you have choices to make.
The top dogs will still be at Derby, its not really a hard decision, they are proven every year to go there and make a few thousand but others who have not performed well will collect a Bonus Ball paycheck, sounds like a good deal to me. It would be unfair if Bonus Ball said you cannot go to all of these events or you are out, they are working with the players very fairly, I am not seeing your argument here at all.
If you want to go out of town and play in a tournement, do you miss money that you would have made at work? I know I do, but I use it as leisure time and Im willing to miss my week or whatever pay knowing that I will always be able to make more money the following week.
Bonus Ball is their job for 26 weeks of the year. (plus playoffs?)
If time were carved out on the BB schedule for the DCC the players would not get paid for those two weeks *right away* but eventually the schedule would be completed and they would be paid for for the whole enchilada, no?
Lou Figueroa
There are a limited number of opportunities to play pool in major events. This kind of thinking, or the lack thereof, is a problem that has long plagued pool. It helps no one.
"The job" could have been structured with potential conflicts in mind. To have made it a win-lose situation when it could have been win-win is insane.
Lou Figueroa
I agree that might work out but most businesses and I consider Bonus Ball and Derby just that, will not close up shop for the other guy just to be nice. This whole thing about schedule conflicts are only a conflict for the players choosing to gamble going to a tournament to make more money or taking the sure money. I can probably go through the list of players and name the ones who will go to DCC and the ones who will stay.
I would be surprised to see some of them stay and play Bonus Ball but if they do you cannot blame them because it is a choice. For our own selfish reasons we want to see all of the top pros at every event and when one does not go we wonder why. It usually comes down to money in some way shape or form, either the event does not pay out enough or the expenses. I think for Derby that Bonus Ball will have a good amount of open spots for alternates, put me in coach! :thumbup:
P.S. Lou, I still like you bud, let me know when you get out to Vegas so I can get you a seat to watch Bonus Ball. I think this game would grow on you, can you imagine Bernie P once hated one pocket?!
I hate for us all to be talking about this in Jay's thread, my apologies for that. I think the Derby is a great tournament, one of the best in the world for sure. I hope I can sneak away for a few days to see some of it. I am going to close out of this thread and leave these Facebook comments from some of the players as of today, they all seem happy to me. :wink:
Shannon Daulton
Headed to Vegas at 7am for the start of Bonus Ball on Thursday!!! Hopefully the start of a new era in the game we all love!!
Adam Smith
is at the Columbus Int'l Airport waiting with anticipation for his flight to Las Vegas to start his WPBL Bonus Ball journey...
Darren Appleton
Head to Philadelphia today see my other half then tmrw head to Vegas for bonus ball www.wpbl.tv
John Morra
$ BONUS BALL $
Rodney Morris
Heading to Vegas now to live there and start practicing hard for the new Bonus Ball season. Please check us out on the free live stream next weekend on www.wpbl.tv.
Shannon Daulton
Headed to Vegas at 7am for the start of Bonus Ball on Thursday!!! Hopefully the start of a new era in the game we all love!!
Adam Smith
is at the Columbus Int'l Airport waiting with anticipation for his flight to Las Vegas to start his WPBL Bonus Ball journey...
Darren Appleton
Head to Philadelphia today see my other half
then tmrw head to Vegas for bonus ball www.wpbl.tv John Morra
$ BONUS BALL $
Rodney Morris
Heading to Vegas now to live there and start practicing hard for the new Bonus Ball season. Please check us out on the free live stream next weekend on www.wpbl.tv.
Look guys, I'm not mad about anything. I wish the players the best with Bonus Ball. To me it's an interesting new development in the pool world that a couple of guys (the promoters) are taking a big gamble on. Hopefully it will work out for them and the players. That remains to be seen.
On the other hand Derby City is a proven commodity in the pool world with Diamond having provided fifteen years of great tournaments, all with good payouts. Shane won over 50K in the last DCC event! I think the better players will opt for the chance at bigger money and the journeyman will accept the guaranteed money of Bonus Ball. I totally understand that. Remember they have to live in Vegas on their own dime, so it's not all gravy. I foresee players bunking together in rented apartments, about the only way to beat the nut.
I will continue to do my job, which is to make the Diamond Ten Ball the best tournament possible with an interesting mix of players, both young and old. It has proven to be one of the most popular events at DCC and in Tunica and I expect it will be this year as well. I'm pretty jazzed about the field we're putting together for the Ten Ball and it should make for many exciting matches. You can't get lucky and win this one! :grin:
On the other hand Derby City is a proven commodity in the pool world with Diamond having provided fifteen years of great tournaments, all with good payouts. Shane won over 50K in the last DCC event! I think the better players will opt for the chance at bigger money and the journeyman will accept the guaranteed money of Bonus Ball. I totally understand that. Remember they have to live in Vegas on their own dime, so it's not all gravy. I foresee players bunking together in rented apartments, about the only way to beat the nut.
I will continue to do my job, which is to make the Diamond Ten Ball the best tournament possible with an interesting mix of players, both young and old. It has proven to be one of the most popular events at DCC and in Tunica and I expect it will be this year as well. I'm pretty jazzed about the field we're putting together for the Ten Ball and it should make for many exciting matches. You can't get lucky and win this one! :grin:
Tentatively this is how the field will look for this years Diamond Ten Ball Championship at DCC. There is always the possibility of last minute changes as someone may drop out and another player take their place.
Alex, Shane, Darren, Dennis O., Brandon, Oscar, Dechaine, Ralf, Bartram, Jesse Engel, Chip Compton, Joey Gray, Keith Bennett, Jayson Shaw, Dennis Haar and John Morra. An excellent field full of great vets and high rolling newcomers.
If there are any changes I will let you know. Good luck and good shooting!
Alex, Shane, Darren, Dennis O., Brandon, Oscar, Dechaine, Ralf, Bartram, Jesse Engel, Chip Compton, Joey Gray, Keith Bennett, Jayson Shaw, Dennis Haar and John Morra. An excellent field full of great vets and high rolling newcomers.
If there are any changes I will let you know. Good luck and good shooting!
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