Bar Rules = Angry Cowboy

What's the point of putting the cue ball in the pocket and corner hooking him? If you commit a foul by directly shooting the 6 in, he would have ball in hand behind the headstring according to his rules.

And sadly enough, all the bars around here use those rules, that's why I bought my own table.
 
Ahhhh the joys of drunk @$$holes at bars trying to be all bad @$$...
I employ the art of borrowing a pen from the waitress and a napkin.
"Here, write down YOUR rules and I'll kick your @$$ by your rules."
At that point they give up. Lol
 
What's the point of putting the cue ball in the pocket and corner hooking him? If you commit a foul by directly shooting the 6 in, he would have ball in hand behind the headstring according to his rules.

And sadly enough, all the bars around here use those rules, that's why I bought my own table.

If you foul on the table, the cueball stays where it is!
 
Gee....creative....and talented. No wonder pool is growing in popularity at such a mad rate. We have such wonderful ambassadors.

You've done something I've never thought of. Good thinking, and I'll write that one down for sure!

That was a much better strategy to show him how to play pool than to just run out on him. Very smart. Really brilliant.

I guess it's the best one can muster if one just can't run the table, eh? Yup. Real smart.




You were down to the six eh? On a bar table? Gee...you really were kicking his ass, huh? Quite a run there "bigshooter". :thumbup:






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Gee....creative....and talented. No wonder pool is growing in popularity at such a mad rate. We have such wonderful ambassadors.



That was a much better strategy to show him how to play pool than to just run out on him. Very smart. Really brilliant.

I guess it's the best one can muster if one just can't run the table, eh? Yup. Real smart.




You were down to the six eh? On a bar table? Gee...you really were kicking his ass, huh? Quite a run there "bigshooter". :thumbup:

To your point ChopDoc, if I'm playing in a pool hall versus just a bar. If somebody wants to play and is willing to learn basics that I can teach or asks questions, I'll gladly assist because they see their threshold for playing. However as I read the op post, if a guy comes up and wants to do it THEIR way and I put them in a hard shot by their rules, they aren't humble enough to learn.

Is that where you were going about the ambassadors comment? Just seeking clarification, not trying to be a smart @$$
 
put them in a hard shot by their rules


Really?

He didn't see it that way. So nothing was accomplished.


It wasn't clever. It didn't "put them in a hard shot by their rules". Just walk into any bar and ask anybody of it's OK to shoot an object ball directly. No matter how drunk they are you know what the answer will be.

Frankly, it was a bonehead maneuver.

The guy intentionally scratched? Maybe. Where I have been that's calling you out to see if you have the gonads to back-up the accusation and the wherewithal to settle it.

Either deal with it directly or shoot your shot from in the kitchen.

If you have trouble shooting at balls in the kitchen then go practice it so you can play it. If not, then just admit that it is a deficiency in your skill set.

I play regularly in a bar now and very often by some pretty "screwy" rules that the guys there like...and they change according to who I am playing. I just play it. I actually enjoy it. I am way past feeling superior to such crap and I assure you I once felt I was and had the game to back it up.


There are plenty of screwed up rules for the leagues and the pros as well. We see them argued here all the time.


Pulling stupid stunts like that in a bar where you are the outsider is just dumb. It certainly isn't any great pool and it sure can be a lot worse than that. I wouldn't suggest trying that where I play. Rumor has it only one guy has been killed there, but from what I am told he deserved it.


Nice of you that you offer to teach. Are you willing to be taught? I mean important social lessons. Lesson one: Don't pull dumb maneuvers in somebody else's place. It isn't nice. If you don't want to play, don't play. And I would suggest not being judgmental about how people might want to play pool. It isn't your sport, you don't own it, nobody does. People can play how they like, and you don't have to play with them.



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Really?

He didn't see it that way. So nothing was accomplished.


It wasn't clever. It didn't "put them in a hard shot by their rules". Just walk into any bar and ask anybody of it's OK to shoot an object ball directly. No matter how drunk they are you know what the answer will be.

Frankly, it was a bonehead maneuver.

The guy intentionally scratched? Maybe. Where I have been that's calling you out to see if you have the gonads to back-up the accusation and the wherewithal to settle it.

Either deal with it directly or shoot your shot from in the kitchen.

If you have trouble shooting at balls in the kitchen then go practice it so you can play it. If not, then just admit that it is a deficiency in your skill set.

I play regularly in a bar now and very often by some pretty "screwy" rules that the guys there like...and they change according to who I am playing. I just play it. I actually enjoy it. I am way past feeling superior to such crap and I assure you I once felt I was and had the game to back it up.


There are plenty of screwed up rules for the leagues and the pros as well. We see them argued here all the time.


Pulling stupid stunts like that in a bar where you are the outsider is just dumb. It certainly isn't any great pool and it sure can be a lot worse than that. I wouldn't suggest trying that where I play. Rumor has it only one guy has been killed there, but from what I am told he deserved it.


Nice of you that you offer to teach. Are you willing to be taught? I mean important social lessons. Lesson one: Don't pull dumb maneuvers in somebody else's place. It isn't nice. If you don't want to play, don't play. And I would suggest not being judgmental about how people might want to play pool. It isn't your sport, you don't own it, nobody does. People can play how they like, and you don't have to play with them.



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Well said. You better know how to fight if you want to try and pull something like that. I've seen stuff pop off for less. While you're at it, why don't you go kiss his girl too?
 
I again have been humbled and see it from different eyes and now see the error in my ways. Cant speak for the OP.
 
Doc Buddy, go for groceries in the morning (its Sat), get a fresh box of
Flacon Du Maiz, ( French for Corn Flakes), cause someone obviously peed in yours this morning.

I play in a monthly bar box tourney (occasionally) where the guys play bar rules, 8 ball last pocket. That move is routinely played, ya know the one Shooter mentioned. Its just a move that most feel is acceptable. But, when you do it back, its ok too. Sometimes. I can do it to you but its BS if you pull a move on me.

Not supposed to intentionally hook another player also. But how many different ways and excuses do you think the guys come up with for doing it.

And then the El Grande Finale. If your opponent is on the eight, he has to be able to see, (and this greatly depends on who you are playing), one half, three quarters and even a full 8 ball or he doesn't have to hit it.

So he gets to push out and leave you crappy.

Then, that particular rule has extended (again, depending on who your opponent is) to regular balls. If you opponent can't see his ball, he doesn't have to hit it nor does he even have to try to hit it. In fear of maybe breaking some balls out.

Then again, he gets to push out, but leave you in a crappy position on any of your balls.

Yeah I know, when in Rome. But you can see why Bar Box rules are basically BS rules and there have been more twisted noses over stupid bar box rules than jealous guys of their girlfriends in the bar.

Thats why I seldom engage myself in a game in the bar unless I know who I am playing. And also see why I said the word, "occasionally", when playing in the monthly tourney. About 2 a year is about all any person can handle.
 
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Doc Buddy, go for groceries in the morning (its Sat), get a fresh box of
Flacon Du Maiz, ( French for Corn Flakes), cause someone obviously peed in yours this morning.


:D:D:D

Yeah. Rough day. :grin-square:


there have been more twisted noses over stupid bar box rules than jealous guys of their girlfriends in the bar.


Yup.






Now....where did I put the Flacon Du Maiz......





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Sounds like you had a long day. Its the weekend and close to Christmas.
Relax and listen to some Christmas music. That will either put you in a good or bad mood, depending on what mood your in. Hahaha.

That sounded way too Yogi Berish didn't it?
 
That's the first I've ever heard of someone doing it in bar rules. I told someone in APA years ago of doing it, but not having to make the ball. When your opponent grabs the CB you call BiH since you never touched the CB. I told him to never do it unless it's someone you know that will laugh it off as it may start a fight.

Same day I told him about it he does it to someone he didn't know and yea it almost started a fight.

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Moral of the story: When you know how to do some dirty things that you wouldn't do just keep it to yourself.

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I just realized that I didn't keep it to myself

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they weren't playing "ball in hand" rules that's the whole point....the cueball remained in the jaws of the pocket where he put it because there is no fouls in "straight 8" rules, as they are often referred to as, except scratches and even then it's only BIH behind the head string.

What's the point of putting the cue ball in the pocket and corner hooking him? If you commit a foul by directly shooting the 6 in, he would have ball in hand behind the headstring according to his rules.

And sadly enough, all the bars around here use those rules, that's why I bought my own table.
 
IDK. I don't mind asking anyone who wants to shoot against me to be on my terms, It's a fair request. Had it been the other way around I would ask for the rules. I was in a similar situation. i was the outsider and asked for the rules then they asked how i played. Regardless, I can't think how many times I've had to do a full lap around the table or some nutso kick or bank to make the ob. That's the only thing I don't get. He was a dweeb but I'm not sure I would go down to his level. Meh:|

Anyways I hate bar boxes. I feel like I'm using some kids toy. I love having a table at home too
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Loren

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Great Post

So I am in a little country bar and a guy keeps wanting to play 8 ball with me.
I had no interest in playing. I was just visiting with a friend and I do not play bar rules, cue ball in kitchen, etc. but the guy keeps hounding me.

So I finally agree just to shut him up. I try to talk him into ball in hand but that was a no go. There is no money involved, he just wanted to say he beat me.

So I am down to the six ball and its in the kitchen. He hits the cue ball off his ball and scratches on purpose, it's blatant and obvious and then he starts the over acting routine " OH MAN... I scratched, dang it..." blah, blah, blah.

So I take the cue ball and place it in the in the kitchen in the jaws of the pocket badly corner hooked. Then I shoot my six ball with my cue straight down into the corner and say "your shot" so now he is pissed and starts ranting about "chickensh** pool" and me cheating etc. I told him if it were ball in hand I wouldn't be able to do that and the only difference between him and i is that i don't act like screwing him is an accident.

He tries to kick at his ball a million miles per hour and the cue ball rolls right up to the 8 for a short, straight in shot for me to win.

He said he would never play me again then went around the room muttering to everyone how "the big pool player" is nothing but a cheat.

I am still laughing.:grin:

Just to give you an idea of what it is like over here in the UK when I played in the local bar all sorts of various rule changes got made by the incoming opponent who put the coins in the pool table.for example :

1.The opponent puts the coins in & racks then say's if I pot the 8 ball from the break I won the game.
2.The opponent does as above but this time does heads or tails coin flip for the break then says if you pot the 8 ball off the break then that means It's a foul shot and they won the rack.
3.Incoming opponent puts the coins in and says 1st ball you pot is where the 8 ball has to go to win the rack.
4.The incoming opponent puts the coins in and says the last ball of your set potted is where the 8 ball must go.
5.Incoming opponent puts the coins in and states any bag for the 8 ball black when you have bagged your set of reds or yellows.

So it all depends on what your opponent wants as to the rules are to be when you are at the local bar here in the UK where I live anyway.sometimes I knew what was incoming and just quit and went home as it got to the point where the players wanted to play but they didn't want to play you if you dominated on the table at that time.:wink:
 
Just to give you an idea of what it is like over here in the UK when I played in the local bar all sorts of various rule changes got made by the incoming opponent who put the coins in the pool table.for example :



1.The opponent puts the coins in & racks then say's if I pot the 8 ball from the break I won the game.

2.The opponent does as above but this time does heads or tails coin flip for the break then says if you pot the 8 ball off the break then that means It's a foul shot and they won the rack.

3.Incoming opponent puts the coins in and says 1st ball you pot is where the 8 ball has to go to win the rack.

4.The incoming opponent puts the coins in and says the last ball of your set potted is where the 8 ball must go.

5.Incoming opponent puts the coins in and states any bag for the 8 ball black when you have bagged your set of reds or yellows.



So it all depends on what your opponent wants as to the rules are to be when you are at the local bar here in the UK where I live anyway.sometimes I knew what was incoming and just quit and went home as it got to the point where the players wanted to play but they didn't want to play you if you dominated on the table at that time.:wink:


Dear lord,
You lost me after 1. :D

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