I understand and respect that. My reaction would be different though. I would think....GREAT....I'm playing a total IDIOT...WHAT FUN!!!
Different strokes for different folks.....especially in POOL!
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EagleMan
Your opponent gets a spot shot, which ball do you spot?
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I understand and respect that. My reaction would be different though. I would think....GREAT....I'm playing a total IDIOT...WHAT FUN!!!
Different strokes for different folks.....especially in POOL!
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EagleMan
Its a half ball hit and nothing else,where actually helping here.:smile:
See if you make it just a half ball hit the color thing goes away.
HUH???? Are you into the spiked egg-nog already???? (-:
The "hit fraction" is 100% a function of the relative positions of the CB and OB.
I'll go ahead and explain that even though I feel like I'm taking some kind of bait you're tossing out...but we'll see.
1. OB is on spot.
2. Target pocket is lower right.
3. There is a particular small "patch" on the OB that the CB has to strike to make it go in the pocket. Nevermind throw/spin for the moment.
4. Line the CB on a line through the center of the OB to the center of the pocket and you have a FULL ball hit.
5. Move the CB ANYWHERE off the line through the center of the OB to the center of the pocket and you have something OTHER than a full ball hit.
6. Therefore, potting a ball into a lower corner from above the head string....a spot shot...requires a DIFFERENT fractional hit depending on WHERE the CB is placed.
7. If you're talking about a "typical" spot shot where the CB is placed roughly where it would be for a break shot... the key issue is ROUGHLY.
To the extent that either the OB is not EXACTLY on a correctlly affixed spot OR the CB is not on ONE PARTICULAR PLACE on the table...then the shot fraction will CHANGE from a half ball hit...up or down (fractionally)
Right?????
EagleMan
I imagine all he's talking about is that when he has BIH behind the head string for a spot shot, he places the CB in the location that requires a half-ball hit on the OB for the pot. Lots of people shoot spot shots that way.
...You know it dont seem like the spot shot comes up like it did about 25 years ago but still comes up.Maybe because the games being played are changing.
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ChrisBanks
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On many one pocket tables, the spot is moved a fraction of an inch purposely.
This way, when you place the cueball in the precise spot for a half-ball hit, you may very well miss the shot even if you hit it well.
This way, when you place the cueball in the precise spot for a half-ball hit, you may very well miss the shot even if you hit it well.
:grin-square:It depends on the calibur of player you are playing.
Forgive me, but this reminds me of a funny story: When I moved to Fort Collins in the early 2000s, there was an old timer that was a really good player and had the reputation that will do anything & everything to get every advantage possible when playing for money. We never played before one afternoon when we were both hitting balls on separate tables, so I asked him to play for fun.
We were playing one pocket and I needed 1 ball, he needed two and he just scratched. He looked at the balls in his corner pocket and then went to the side pocket until he found the six ball, which he spotted. I was speechless for a moment after witnessing this and finally said something to him "...we are splitting time and just practicing - really, you had to find the six ball to spot?" (of course laughing and smiling). He then said "you gotta practice that, too". I don't think I have ever laughed so hard. Old school is right!
I guess I was grateful he was pulling the ball out of HIS pocket.
Carry on.
Dave
We were playing one pocket and I needed 1 ball, he needed two and he just scratched. He looked at the balls in his corner pocket and then went to the side pocket until he found the six ball, which he spotted. I was speechless for a moment after witnessing this and finally said something to him "...we are splitting time and just practicing - really, you had to find the six ball to spot?" (of course laughing and smiling). He then said "you gotta practice that, too". I don't think I have ever laughed so hard. Old school is right!
I guess I was grateful he was pulling the ball out of HIS pocket.
Carry on.
Dave
ChrisBanks
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Forgive me, but this reminds me of a funny story: When I moved to Fort Collins in the early 2000s, there was an old timer that was a really good player and had the reputation that will do anything & everything to get every advantage possible when playing for money. We never played before one afternoon when we were both hitting balls on separate tables, so I asked him to play for fun.
We were playing one pocket and I needed 1 ball, he needed two and he just scratched. He looked at the balls in his corner pocket and then went to the side pocket until he found the six ball, which he spotted. I was speechless for a moment after witnessing this and finally said something to him "...we are splitting time and just practicing - really, you had to find the six ball to spot?" (of course laughing and smiling). He then said "you gotta practice that, too". I don't think I have ever laughed so hard. Old school is right!
I guess I was grateful he was pulling the ball out of HIS pocket.
Carry on.
Dave
Thank you for bringing some legitimacy to this time honored method of play.
ALWAYS the six ball if possible with the number on the cloth, so you see only green when shooting. Preferably on a green cloth table. On blue cloth the two ball might be preferred. Sorry but it's true.
ChrisBanks
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Thank you Jay. Some people here have determined it is a sin to spot a particular ball. They say that the ball must be picked at random.
But I know the greatest one pocket players think otherwise. And I'm sure with good reason.
I've seen guys who always place the six ball in front when racking for their opponent in One Pocket. If they do it to me I ask them to change it.
Just curious, but what if in a tournament the opponent called an official and asked for a different ball to be spotted & pointed out that the 6 on green or the 2 on blue was purposely & especially spotted number down?
I wonder what might happen regarding the sportmanship rules?
Just curious.
I wonder what might happen regarding the sportmanship rules?
Just curious.
ChrisBanks
Banned
Am I not free to spot whichever ball I please?
There is no rule against this. All that would happen is a different ball would be spotted.
Lol
I've seen this move quite a few times. 6 on green felt, 2 on blue, & sometimes the 8 all with the number directly on the cloth. I told a friend who jus started and is addicted to 1 pkt-he didnt believe me. A few weeks later after watching some 1holers-he said a lot people do it.
I've seen this move quite a few times. 6 on green felt, 2 on blue, & sometimes the 8 all with the number directly on the cloth. I told a friend who jus started and is addicted to 1 pkt-he didnt believe me. A few weeks later after watching some 1holers-he said a lot people do it.
Greatest One Pocket Players???
Who Exactly?
Unless you speak in specifics it's just hot air. The same thing goes for your theory about having the spot in a different location. Have you ever seen this on a table you've played on?
I think the biggest problem with thinking this way is it will get in your own head. If I start believing the green ball is harder to pocket this will make it seem more difficult when I'm shooting it. If my opponent doesn't even notice which ball you spot they wouldn't be affected. So in my opinion thinking one ball is more difficult over another would shark me more than the person I'm playing against.
This is the biggest problem with picking a specific ball to spot from my perspective.
This is a subtle attempt at sharking but it could hurt you more than them.
It's not against the rules but I do think it's bad form.
Dudley
ChrisBanks
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Believe me, the spots are rarely precise, and sometimes well off. After all, they are replaced most of the time just by sight. Now if you've got a left-handed player playing against mostly right-handed players, you can be sure that he will get that spot a little closer to the right if he can do so.