8-ball, Do I rake the balls after the break if he has an open table?

It's early in the set, your opponent has broken, made a ball, and the table is wide open.

Do you immediately rake the balls so that he can't get in stroke, and so you don't have to be on ice so long?
 
It's early in the set, your opponent has broken, made a ball, and the table is wide open.

Do you immediately rake the balls so that he can't get in stroke, and so you don't have to be on ice so long?

I would never do that or would i recommend it, maybe on a straight in 8ball very close to the pocket, Always remember this, the big difference between great players and good players are the great player very seldom ever misses easy shots where as the good player will miss some easy shots, we all can make hard shots its the easy ones thats the difference makers, so no dont ever give just a decent player all those balls.
 
You could post this in the "Things that will get your thumbs broken" thread.
 
I won't even concede the 8 ball, much less a number of object balls including the 8. Same in golf BTW...no gimmes, hole out. And as for your "let him get in stroke" comment; I want him 100% in stroke when I beat him, so, shoot em down!
 
Firstly, it's a stupid sharking technique. Secondly, I play pool because I enjoy playing so I want to shoot them even if it is a Tom Cruise out. Furthermore, part of my issue is lack of focus and inconsistency so I need as many chances to focus on easy outs as I can get.

It's a shitty move and I would not tolerate it.
 
Firstly, it's a stupid sharking technique. Secondly, I play pool because I enjoy playing so I want to shoot them even if it is a Tom Cruise out. Furthermore, part of my issue is lack of focus and inconsistency so I need as many chances to focus on easy outs as I can get.

It's a shitty move and I would not tolerate it.

You'd be given a free game on the wire, you wouldn't even need to take a swing at the table!
 
You'd be given a free game on the wire, you wouldn't even need to take a swing at the table!

I don't care, I don't gamble often and even if I did I'd have to think long and hard if I would continue the set. Either way, there certainly wouldn't be another set.
 
At the same time, isn't it also a bit of a courtesy?
In what way?

If its for money then you would be giving your opponent too much respect.

If its not for money and for fun, then its way more fun playing than raking and racking balls.
 
Did you happen to read the Jack Hines thread recently?

Perhaps that's why the OP proposed this question.

I agree it's rediculous. From what I've read, Hines, or (Hynes) used to do this regularly in his hayday. I imagine due to his incredible talent, AND the "medication" he might have been on.

carry on.
 
Did you happen to read the Jack Hines thread recently?

Perhaps that's why the OP proposed this question.

I agree it's rediculous. From what I've read, Hines, or (Hynes) used to do this regularly in his hayday. I imagine due to his incredible talent, AND the "medication" he might have been on.

carry on.

No. This manuever has been used by many greats in the past. And I imagine that Hines would have used it too. Do you see any reason not to use this strategy?
 
No. This manuever has been used by many greats in the past. And I imagine that Hines would have used it too. Do you see any reason not to use this strategy?

Because it pisses people off. Because pool should be fun or you should find something else to do.
 
Open table...tis but a scratch

Concede...rake the balls...are you nuts. I play like the Black Knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".
dialogue below excerpted for the uninitiated.

[rounds of melee, with Arthur cutting off the left arm of the black knight]

King Arthur: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
Black Knight: 'Tis but a scratch.
King Arthur: A scratch?!? Your arm's off!
Black Knight: No it isn't.
King Arthur: Well what's that then? [Pointing to the knight's arm lying on the ground]
Black Knight: I've had worse.
King Arthur: You liar!
Black Knight: Come on, you pansy! [Charges Arthur, who chops the knight's remaining arm off]
King Arthur: Victory is mine! [kneels and starts to pray...] We thank thee Lord, that in thy-- [is kicked in the head by the armless knight]
Black Knight: Come on then...
King Arthur: You are indeed brave, good sir knight, but the fight is mine.
Black Knight: Oooohhh, had enough, eh?
King Arthur: Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left!
Black Knight: Yes I have.
King Arthur: Look!!!
Black Knight: It's only a flesh wound. [Continues to kick and taunt King Arthur]
King Arthur: Look, I'll have your leg.
Black Knight: Chicken, chicken....
King Arthur: RIGHT! [Chops off one of the black knight's legs]
Black Knight: Right, I'll do you for that!
King Arthur: You'll what?
Black Knight: Come here!
King Arthur: What are you going to do, bleed on me???
Black Knight: I'm invincible!!!
King Arthur: You're a looney.
Black Knight: The Black Knight always triumphs!!! Have at you!!! Come on then. [Hopping on one leg towards King Arthur]
[King Arthur chops his other leg off, leaving his body upright on the ground]

Black Knight: Alright, we'll call it a draw.
King Arthur: Come, Patsy!
Black Knight: Oh, oh I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastard! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off! :p

Just gotta love it.
Tommy
 
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