Original Moori Tips
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Probably because there is some notion that the newer tips do not play as well as the older tips. And there also seemed to be some rumor that they're no longer being made. I don't know about that last rumor though because my pro shop here in Baltimore still has alot of them.
I've palyed with both the old, and new, and my personal opinion is the hit is different between the two with the older Moori's having a softer hit. Other than that they look the same and shape the same, when installing.
In addition, I see no good reason to pay the exta cost when there are so many good tips out there. :smile:
In addition, I see no good reason to pay the exta cost when there are so many good tips out there. :smile:
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Moori tips rumor #352
Joe barringer sells so many moori tips you could choke a horse..........
And he has no problems getting them....................
That has to have some impact on the moori rumor that the great japaness
tip maker is up on mount fuju soul searching and isnt comming back down until he finds his purpose in life .
Or he could be rich and is enjoying the good life :dance:
MMike
Moori tips rumor #352
Joe barringer sells so many moori tips you could choke a horse..........
And he has no problems getting them....................
That has to have some impact on the moori rumor that the great japaness
tip maker is up on mount fuju soul searching and isnt comming back down until he finds his purpose in life .
Or he could be rich and is enjoying the good life :dance:
MMike
? (I've noticed some for sale lately for $50-80. I just can't see what would justify me to pay that for one tip. What makes these tips worth so much? )
Answer They are not IMHO
Answer They are not IMHO
Wouldn't these old tips be dried up kind of? I thought you are supposed to get a new tip every year because they will eventually lose their luster? I'm sure being played with factors in, but if they aren't sealed in an air right package like the newer ones then I would think that's wouldn't be good. Anybody know for sure??
That was my next question. I can't see how a leather tip and glue sitting for many years is a good thing.
Problem with these tips are that even when they were popular,there
were real good fakes.Depending on the year, the backs of some of the
tips looked different but both were real morri's.
I think anyone paying any price is taking a risk that there fakes or
not.I used to have old Morri's installed and some still played bad
and had issues.
I loved the old ones,but as far as any tip is concerned,the most
important part is having a tip guy that knows what he's doing,
preps the tip right and knows the proper method as far as cutting
and barnishing goes.This to me is the most important part.
were real good fakes.Depending on the year, the backs of some of the
tips looked different but both were real morri's.
I think anyone paying any price is taking a risk that there fakes or
not.I used to have old Morri's installed and some still played bad
and had issues.
I loved the old ones,but as far as any tip is concerned,the most
important part is having a tip guy that knows what he's doing,
preps the tip right and knows the proper method as far as cutting
and barnishing goes.This to me is the most important part.
I think of tips like I do shaftwood.Properly seasoned leather shouldn't
have any issues at all if its quality,so these tips or any other tips
should be fine.
I've had vacumed sealed tips that were junk and had that dry fuzzy
chi-pet looking crap on the top of the tip after being cut.
That told me it was dryed out and a crappy piece of leather.
A piece of shaft wood and a leather tip are very different. The fact of the matter is leather does dry out over time. Some of these original Moori tips are close to 20 years old, Yes they are dryed out to some degree.
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If anyone wants to bet a hundred a try I will set up five cues with five tips. All the tips will be colored black. I will bet $100 that no one can pick the Moori out of the five by hit.
You can take five shots with each tip and write down the number of which one you think is the original Moori. Get it right and you win a crisp $100 bill. Get it wrong you owe me one.
I know that everyone has their opinions and I know that there ARE differences in tips. But I also know that there are tips out there which are INDISTINGUISHABLE from Mooris once the tip has been played for a week or so and burnished.
At one time I really big into tips and so I undertook an informal study of them. My results which were obtained with a Durometer and recorded on a spreadsheet have been lost to hard drive crashes but the conclusion was that MOST tips will have about the same hardness level after a period of play and that MOST tips are indistinguishable from other tips after a certain breaking in period.
I am sorry but $60 or $100 for a cue tip is way out of line in my opinion. No tip on the earth is worth that and never has been. I do understand that some things reach mythical proportions and I was constantly amazed at cue repairmen getting up to $60 to install Mooris back in the day. An unbelievable markup on an $8 tip which itself was a high price back then for just the tip.
Anyway, that's my take on it. Just my opinion.
You can take five shots with each tip and write down the number of which one you think is the original Moori. Get it right and you win a crisp $100 bill. Get it wrong you owe me one.
I know that everyone has their opinions and I know that there ARE differences in tips. But I also know that there are tips out there which are INDISTINGUISHABLE from Mooris once the tip has been played for a week or so and burnished.
At one time I really big into tips and so I undertook an informal study of them. My results which were obtained with a Durometer and recorded on a spreadsheet have been lost to hard drive crashes but the conclusion was that MOST tips will have about the same hardness level after a period of play and that MOST tips are indistinguishable from other tips after a certain breaking in period.
I am sorry but $60 or $100 for a cue tip is way out of line in my opinion. No tip on the earth is worth that and never has been. I do understand that some things reach mythical proportions and I was constantly amazed at cue repairmen getting up to $60 to install Mooris back in the day. An unbelievable markup on an $8 tip which itself was a high price back then for just the tip.
Anyway, that's my take on it. Just my opinion.
If its cured and treated properly
there shouldn't be a problem.I've had a leather jacket going on 15years
and it still feels and looks the same as the day I bought it.
Most tips have a little coating on both sides anyways.I guess anything
will dry out to a point but imo not to the point of it being noticed,
unless it was inferior to begin with.
That is 100% correct. Leather is preserved skin. It has oils and chemicals in it to keep it from being eaten by bacteria and rotting. On a leather case you need to condition the leather at least once a year to keep it moisturized just as you would do with your own skin when it gets dried out.
I am not sure how this affects tips but I am certain that because they are leather they subject to the same environmental effects as all other leather.
Yet didn't you support paying $30 for a single cube of Kamui chalk?
I couldn't resist
Look at the direction chalk has taken.If we did the same test with chalk,nobody
could tell as well.
People say the same with joints also.I think when you can visually see
what your using,your heightened senses zone in on feel and feedback.
Now I know some may think your heightened senses should kick in
if you can't see it.This generally is true if the condition of the sight
loss was permanent.
Yet didn't you support paying $30 for a single cube of Kamui chalk?
I couldn't resist
Actually no I didn't. I said that Kamui would have to prove it's worth it. And if you check the thread I put up with my review I said pretty much that I don't think that they have proved all their claims.
Moori on the other hand put out a tip for $7 and never made any claims about it. The market went into a frenzy over it and the legend continues even 20 years and dozens of brands of layered tips later.