"New" member: My introduction

LAMas said:
How about drawing a line with a cloth tape or a chalk line and with the camera overhead to show swerve?
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LAMas, great idea. I got some great footage using a piece of masking tape to mark the center line. I shot all shots with center-right (3:00) spin, and tried my best to keep my cue parallel and in line with the edge of the tape. This equates into about one tip of English. I shot shots with varying speed so we can see how that affects the path. I got footage of my Z2 and my house cue. You can really see the difference, not only in the cue ball path, but in the residual vibration of the shaft after contact.

I'll put together several of the suggested shots in this thread and put up a link this weekend.

-Blake
 
bdorman said:
What camera do you use? Used on the bike, it must be pretty rugged?
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The bike videos were shot with a GoPro. The high speed ("slow motion") videos and all other non-bike videos on my channel were shot with a discontinued Casio, believe it or not!

-Blake
 
Coming soon:
The first ever AZB Users Slow Motion Video.

I like the acronym:
AUSM Video #1 :-)

Requests filmed and ready for editing:
ENGLISH! and LAMas: squirt/swerve
iusedtoberich: Diamond ball polisher
bdorman: "Spin around the clock"
CreeDo and LAMas: cut skid

Requests I hope to fulfill this weekend:
CreeDo: breaks
Kickin' Chicken: 7-10 split (maybe)
SloMoHolic: a few cool extras

Requests I will not be doing this time around:
Maniac: CTE (I don't understand it)
Tramp Steamer: toenail clipping (you really don't want to see this)

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By far, the coolest and weirdest clips so far are those of cut skid. Bizarre. Both the CB and OB bounce three times, slide, then pick up diagonal spin. I am now a believer that the bouncing is why we can "hear" a skid without looking. You almost can't see the bouncing unless the clip is played in reverse. I can't wait to show you!

Thanks everybody for your suggestions. I'll start a new thread when the video is available, and I'll also post here. For the sake of reference, I think we should move our discussions of the actual video to the new thread when it's posted.

This is going to be great!

-Blake
 
Announcement

Coming this weekend:

The first ever
AZB Users' Slow-Motion Video!
(AUS-M Video #1)​

I like the acronym. Say it with me: AUS-M Video #1 :)

Requests filmed and ready for editing:
ENGLISH! and LAMas: Squirt and Swerve
iusedtoberich: Diamond Pro Ball Polisher
bdorman: "Spin Around the Clock"
CreeDo and LAMas: Cut Skid

Requests I'll try to finish this weekend:
CreeDo: Breaks (maybe not all of them)
Kickin' Chicken: 7-10 split (maybe)
SloMoHolic: some cool extras... stay tuned...

Requests I won't be filming:
Maniac: CTE (I don't use or even understand it)
Tramp Stamper: Clipping Toenails (you really don't want to see this :eek:)

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By far, the coolest and weirdest clips so far are the cut skid clips. Both the cue ball and the object ball bounce a few times, slide, pick up diagonal spin, then swerve. Totally bizarre! I am now a believer that the multiple bounces are the reason we can "hear" a skid without even seeing the shot. I can't wait to show you these clips!

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For the sake of reference (and bringing the video to a larger audience), I'd like to start a new thread when I release it. That way we can keep the discussions of the actual video in a cohesive thread. I plan on putting reference numbers in the video to help organize our future discussions (example: AUS-M Video 1, Chapter 3, Shot 4).

Thanks again, everybody, for the warm welcome and all your participation. This is going to be great!

-Blake
 
SloMoHolic said:
Coming this weekend:

The first ever
AZB Users' Slow-Motion Video!
(AUS-M Video #1)​

I like the acronym. Say it with me: AUS-M Video #1 :)

Requests filmed and ready for editing:
ENGLISH! and LAMas: Squirt and Swerve
iusedtoberich: Diamond Pro Ball Polisher
bdorman: "Spin Around the Clock"
CreeDo and LAMas: Cut Skid

Requests I'll try to finish this weekend:
CreeDo: Breaks (maybe not all of them)
Kickin' Chicken: 7-10 split (maybe)
SloMoHolic: some cool extras... stay tuned...

Requests I won't be filming:
Maniac: CTE (I don't use or even understand it)
Tramp Stamper: Clipping Toenails (you really don't want to see this :eek:)

---

By far, the coolest and weirdest clips so far are the cut skid clips. Both the cue ball and the object ball bounce a few times, slide, pick up diagonal spin, then swerve. Totally bizarre! I am now a believer that the multiple bounces are the reason we can "hear" a skid without even seeing the shot. I can't wait to show you these clips!

--

For the sake of reference (and bringing the video to a larger audience), I'd like to start a new thread when I release it. That way we can keep the discussions of the actual video in a cohesive thread. I plan on putting reference numbers in the video to help organize our future discussions (example: AUS-M Video 1, Chapter 3, Shot 4).

Thanks again, everybody, for the warm welcome and all your participation. This is going to be great!

-Blake
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Too bad you won't consider filming cte because this is ultimately what Pat had the biggest issue with. Showing the process in slow motion might help to prove his point that it is all feel. Pat was invited many times to learn it and then dissect it and he never did.

Love the videos though. Billiards is fascinating. I would love to see some video of straight in shots done with Back hand English.
 
SloMoHolic said:
Coming this weekend:

The first ever
AZB Users' Slow-Motion Video!
(AUS-M Video #1)​

I like the acronym. Say it with me: AUS-M Video #1 :)

Requests filmed and ready for editing:
ENGLISH! and LAMas: Squirt and Swerve
iusedtoberich: Diamond Pro Ball Polisher
bdorman: "Spin Around the Clock"
CreeDo and LAMas: Cut Skid

Requests I'll try to finish this weekend:
CreeDo: Breaks (maybe not all of them)
Kickin' Chicken: 7-10 split (maybe)
SloMoHolic: some cool extras... stay tuned...

Requests I won't be filming:
Maniac: CTE (I don't use or even understand it)
Tramp Stamper: Clipping Toenails (you really don't want to see this :eek:)

---

By far, the coolest and weirdest clips so far are the cut skid clips. Both the cue ball and the object ball bounce a few times, slide, pick up diagonal spin, then swerve. Totally bizarre! I am now a believer that the multiple bounces are the reason we can "hear" a skid without even seeing the shot. I can't wait to show you these clips!

--

For the sake of reference (and bringing the video to a larger audience), I'd like to start a new thread when I release it. That way we can keep the discussions of the actual video in a cohesive thread. I plan on putting reference numbers in the video to help organize our future discussions (example: AUS-M Video 1, Chapter 3, Shot 4).

Thanks again, everybody, for the warm welcome and all your participation. This is going to be great!

-Blake
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looking forward to these, Blake. :wink:

best,
brian kc
 
JB Cases said:
Too bad you won't consider filming cte because this is ultimately what Pat had the biggest issue with. Showing the process in slow motion might help to prove his point that it is all feel. Pat was invited many times to learn it and then dissect it and he never did.

Love the videos though. Billiards is fascinating. I would love to see some video of straight in shots done with Back hand English.
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Hey, JB, I'm honored to have you post on my thread. No sarcasm, I'm just being honest. I've enjoyed reading your posts and must say I have learned a lot from you.

Thanks for the nice comments on my videos. I just love seeing things in a different way to help me (maybe all of us) understand what's going on in the crazy realm of pool.

The video is uploading AS I WRITE! Should be available in about an hour. I'll post a new thread when it's ready for viewing.

I'd love to film some of the CTE stuff, but I'm afraid I'm not qualified to do that yet. I'm not saying it doesn't work, just admitting that I don't understand it (yet). I do have Stan's ProOne DVD, but I just haven't studied or practiced it enough yet. I also purchased CJ'a TOI PPV, but again I don't want to misrepresent, as I haven't explored it enough. I will though, trust me. In the meantime, if there's anyone in Austin, TX that could demonstrate CTE or any other systems I'm unqualified to shoot myself, I'd be happy to film them and post a video or two (or five).

I hope I don't make any enemies for dedicating the video to Pat. I know he was harsh, and I didn't always agree with his tact, but I did appreciate his technical knowledge. Long before I was involved enough to witness (or even understand) any of the arguments, Pat was offering detailed explanations to me, and I'm thankful for that.

I am undecided on many things pool-related, and I don't pretend to know what I'm talking about. I still believe there may be a 3D perspective to ProOne/CTE that we haven't explored yet. I'm exploring it as I have time.

As for BHE, I think you'll see it in the "Spin Around the Clock" section of my video. In that section, I'm not explicitly showing BHE, but you can see the adjustment in my cue angle as I move "around" the cue ball. They're not straight in, but close.

When I post the video announcement, I will be asking for recommendations for the next video. I sincerely hope you will tell me what you'd like to see. I'd be happy to film it.

Thanks again!

-Blake
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
looking forward to these, Blake. :wink:

best,
brian kc
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Almost ready! It's literally uploading right now!

Thanks, and I hope you and others give me some feedback, positive or negative. I didn't get that 7-10 split in SloMo yet, but I'm working on a local PBA pro to get the footage. :)

-Blake
 
The video is up! New thread (for discussion) will be up in a few minutes... It will be called New Video: AUSM Video 1!

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EDIT: Here's the link to the new thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=4006734#post4006734
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I will edit this post with a link to the new thread once it's up. I need a dang cigarette break!

Thanks for checking out my "intro" thread. Please post any comments related to the video in the new thread, ok? Thanks!

Here's the video link:
AUSM Video 1

Here are some details of what it took to produce this video (not that anyone cares)...
Stats for this video:
Hours filming shots: 26
Hours editing footage: 33
Hours of total video: 282 (slow motion means lots of long videos!)
Hard drive space used: 26 GB
Sleepless nights: 2 (yeah, like I needed an excuse to play pool instead of sleep)

Final YouTube video: 7 minutes, 50 seconds, 206 MB!

Thanks, y'all!

-Blake
 
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excellent!
I now see that the 'skid' of the OB is due to it losing contact with the cloth momentarily upon impact and changing the expected path...called CIT/gearing.
Thanks.:thumbup:
 
LAMas said:
excellent!
I now see that the 'skid' of the OB is due to it losing contact with the cloth momentarily upon impact and changing the expected path...called CIT/gearing.
Thanks.:thumbup:
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Yep, "gearing" is the perfect word. Not only does the OB lose contact with the cloth, but it seems like the CB "hooks up with it" and tosses it off the line. Normal CIT is well understood, but the "skid" seems like it's just a form of extreme CIT and/or spin transfer.

Maybe the CB induces spin on the OB upon contact, which then, upon OB's return to the surface, makes the OB "spin" even further off the line?

Weird, interesting stuff...

-Blake
 
Welcome to the forums Blake! Nice slo-mo video's. I recently was reading one of Robert Byrne's books and he was having trouble with a particular shot using outside english! The shot is where 2 balls are frozen along the long rail! He phoned Bob Jewitt and Bob was explaining that the cue ball was getting underneath the rail and couldn't be made, other than having your cue below the rail height and shooting up at the ball!! Something to that effect!
The shot Mr. Byrne diagrammed was a shot down the long rail to the corner pocket! The object ball was frozen to the long rail 1 diamond away, and the cue ball was frozen to the rail 3 diamonds away! Using outside english, you cannot pocket this shot!! I would be very interested in seeing the effects of that shot!! Maybe Bob or someone else can chime in on this one if I have the shot set-up wrong! I have the book out on loan! Thank you!!
 
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How about a close up of the shaft and how it reacts on extreme english, draw and follow. Maybe different shafts if possible. First in real time and then in super slow motion.

I enjoyed your videos tremendously. The only thing I could think of to make them even better was if you were to show the shots in real time first and then the slow mo.
 
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pablocruz said:
Welcome to the forums Blake! Nice slo-mo video's. I recently was reading one of Robert Byrne's books and he was having trouble with a particular shot using outside english! The shot is where 2 balls are frozen along the long rail! He phoned Bob Jewitt and Bob was explaining that the cue ball was getting underneath the rail and couldn't be made, other than having your cue below the rail height and shooting up at the ball!! Something to that effect!
The shot Mr. Byrne diagrammed was a shot down the long rail to the corner pocket! The object ball was frozen to the long rail 1 diamond away, and the cue ball was frozen to the rail 3 diamonds away! Using outside english, you cannot pocket this shot!! I would be very interested in seeing the effects of that shot!! Maybe Bob or someone else can chime in on this one if I have the shot set-up wrong! I have the book out on loan! Thank you!!
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Very intriguing! I'll have to ask around about that one.

In the video, check out C10 S01 (near the end). The 8 and CB are frozen to the bottom short rail. I used a masse stroke to pocket the 8 and move up for the 9 (frozen on the opposite short rail). Granted, the CB was only an inch away from the 8... But I'd love to try your suggested shot!!!

If you don't mind, may I ask you to post that same question again in the new "AUSM Video 1" video thread?

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=307413

To help me stay organized with the requests, I'll be looking there for whatever shots would go in the next video...

Thanks for the shot recommendation!

-Blake
 
JohnPT said:
How about a close up of the shaft and how it reacts on extreme english, draw and follow. Maybe different shafts if possible. First in real time and then in super slow motion.

I enjoyed your videos tremendously. The only thing I could think of to make them even better was if you were to show the shots in real time first and then the slow mo.
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Thanks for the kind words.

Good points!

Yeah, the shaft "wobble" is pretty cool in SloMo. Low Deflection shafts especially look way cool in slow motion. In the next video, I'll make sure to get some footage of that with some extreme spin!

And thanks for recommending the real time + SloMo idea. I've toyed with that, but Dang! those SloMo clips take up so much time, it seems I'm running out of room for real time footage. Maybe because I always try to put the video to music. I guess I should probably break things up into separate videos. I've heard that request enough times that I think I should figure out a solution to show real time AND slow motion.

If you don't mind, would you send that question over to the "official" video thread? Just as a favor to me...

I'm sure I'll still check here, but I'd like to have all the new requests in that new thread so I don't miss 'em...

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=307413

Thanks John!

-Blake
 
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